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Non-nintendo Independent wikis | SONIC DOESN'T APPLY

Started by ganondox, March 04, 2010, 11:35:59 PM

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ganondox

There are a lot of non-Nintendo independent gaming wikis out there. Even though though they are non-Nintendo and there for cannot join this alliance we should still try to form some sort of alliance with them. (Alliance of independent wiki alliances?)

Ps. Add a link smiley.

Level 3

That defeats one of the purposes of NIWA, while there are series that are subject to debate, most, like Sonic, can't join, since this alliance is for Nintendo series.

Admin at the F-Zero Wiki.

Tucayo

Yeah, we wont go affiliating with a Halo wiki. (Did you know the founder of halo wiki co-founded the SMW?)

Level 3

Quote from: Tucayo on March 05, 2010, 02:46:24 AM
Yeah, we wont go affiliating with a Halo wiki. (Did you know the founder of halo wiki co-founded the SMW?)

Name please?

That's a nice little fun fact.

Admin at the F-Zero Wiki.

Tucayo

Quote from: Level 3 on March 05, 2010, 02:54:31 AM
Quote from: Tucayo on March 05, 2010, 02:46:24 AM
Yeah, we wont go affiliating with a Halo wiki. (Did you know the founder of halo wiki co-founded the SMW?)

Name please?

That's a nice little fun fact.
agent seethroo

http://userpedia.adriels.com/AgentSeethroo

tacopill

form other alliances that focus on meta-franchises and companies, like:


  • Shonen Jump
  • DC Comics
  • Sega







Tucayo

Quote from: tacopill on March 05, 2010, 03:34:03 PM
form other alliances that focus on meta-franchises and companies, like:


  • Shonen Jump
  • DC Comics
  • Sega
AFAIK the first 2 are not focused on videogames

Archaic

I can't believe no one's already mentioned the Transformers wiki yet, given their famous break from Wikia.

While we may make a larger, more encompassing alliance in the future, in the short-to-medium term that won't be happening. Let's get this all perfected with the Nintendo franchise wikis first.



onetwentysix

Couldn't the Sonic the Hedgehog Wiki (If there is one that isn't one of those wikias) also be here?? Sonic and a few of the other characters appeared in Super Smash Bros & Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games.

Member#36

#9
Once again, Sonic the Hedgehog is not from Nintendo, he is from Sega.  Such games featuring him were licensed by Nintendo.  If anything, he would be mentioned on the Super Smash Brothers Wiki, or something.  ...And the NIWA don't need several wikis which cover the same characters.

tacopill

#10
To add to the previous post:
Sonic does appear in those games, but that doesn't make the rest of the sonic universe(s) a nintendo franchise.

in order to be a nintendo franchise, you need at least some of the following points:
* The franchise needs to be owned by nintendo, or one of it first- or second-party associates
* The development team of each game in the series needs at least some input from the seniors at
* Each game needs it's premium release on a Nintendo console, usually because of a Exclusivity clause in a contract that is somehow related. This doesn't apply to minor ports

(it varies from franchise to franchise which criteria is met)

For instance:
* Pokemon - developed by Game Freak, published by Nintendo and realease only on Nintendo Consoles
* Mega Man - developed and published by Capcom, initially developed only for Nintendo games, it is no long a "Nintendo Franchise" once it was published on a Playstation.
* Sonic - developed and published by Sega, now showing up in all three current-gen systems. Sonic shows up in side games, such as Olympic Titles, and Smash bros because Nintendo worked out a deal with Sega and because Both companies new that Mario-vs-Sonic is one of the biggest rivalries in gaming and therefore would be something the fans would like.
* Ace Attorney - developed by Capcom, published by Capcom and Nintendo Austrailia, only realeased on Nintendo Console, except for the minor iPhone ports which didn't add much to the story.
* Mario - developed and published by nintendo, released only Nintendo-systems since the mid-nineties
* Zelda - same as Mario

Even though many of these franchises have involved 3rd party companies (Snake from Konami being in smash bros, Link being in Soul Caliber 2) the franchise is usually associated as a whole with nintendo.







Tucayo

Tacopill summed up everything perfectly

tacopill








onetwentysix

Quote from: tacopill on April 23, 2010, 11:03:54 PM
To add to the previous post:
Sonic does appear in those games, but that doesn't make the rest of the sonic universe(s) a nintendo franchise.

in order to be a nintendo franchise, you need at least some of the following points:
* The franchise needs to be owned by nintendo, or one of it first- or second-party associates
* The development team of each game in the series needs at least some input from the seniors at
* Each game needs it's premium release on a Nintendo console, usually because of a Exclusivity clause in a contract that is somehow related. This doesn't apply to minor ports

(it varies from franchise to franchise which criteria is met)

For instance:
* Pokemon - developed by Game Freak, published by Nintendo and realease only on Nintendo Consoles
* Mega Man - developed and published by Capcom, initially developed only for Nintendo games, it is no long a "Nintendo Franchise" once it was published on a Playstation.
* Sonic - developed and published by Sega, now showing up in all three current-gen systems. Sonic shows up in side games, such as Olympic Titles, and Smash bros because Nintendo worked out a deal with Sega and because Both companies new that Mario-vs-Sonic is one of the biggest rivalries in gaming and therefore would be something the fans would like.
* Ace Attorney - developed by Capcom, published by Capcom and Nintendo Austrailia, only realeased on Nintendo Console, except for the minor iPhone ports which didn't add much to the story.
* Mario - developed and published by nintendo, released only Nintendo-systems since the mid-nineties
* Zelda - same as Mario

Even though many of these franchises have involved 3rd party companies (Snake from Konami being in smash bros, Link being in Soul Caliber 2) the franchise is usually associated as a whole with nintendo.

So If a Pokemon game appeared on a PSP, then Bulbapedia can't be here anymore?

tacopill

That's a possibility, although would be a jerk move by Game Freak. It would mostly depend on how they made the game.

- Is it a Minor Port, Emulated ROM, or something similar? then no.
- Did Game Freak come out and Say "Pokemon is from now on PSP as well as Nintendo DS". then yes.

Although i would like to think the people at N.I.W.A. would allow them to stick around.  ;D







Axiomist

Quote from: Archaic on March 05, 2010, 11:28:03 PM
I can't believe no one's already mentioned the Transformers wiki yet, given their famous break from Wikia.

Let me know when the time comes, I can contact someone at the Transformers Wiki that has been an awesome editor at Zelda Wiki.org.

Archaic

I actually already contacted their owner to let them know what we were doing a while back. ^^;



onetwentysix

Quote from: tacopill on April 28, 2010, 10:57:34 PM
That's a possibility, although would be a jerk move by Game Freak. It would mostly depend on how they made the game.

- Is it a Minor Port, Emulated ROM, or something similar? then no.
- Did Game Freak come out and Say "Pokemon is from now on PSP as well as Nintendo DS". then yes.

Although i would like to think the people at N.I.W.A. would allow them to stick around.  ;D

It's possible (Probably Game Freak wants more money)

Gamefreak75

No, I have enough money!  :P But anyways, that is the reason why Sonic is not part of the alliance, because he has appeared on non-Nintendo systems, which kills the whole purpose of the Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance. That would be kind of a low blow for Nintendo if they did that.

Member#36

#19
Yup, and with that, I do believe that you got your answer [three-five times] of why Sonic is not going to be part of the NIWA.  So, please stop asking onetwentysix.