The previous Alliance Request thread has served its purpose, but as a casualty of our hasty setup became unmanageably messy. Also many of the options we have now didn't exist then. We can now add Affiliates which can be any manner of site that supports NIWA or its member wikis.
Consider all previous requests void! We're starting over with new options. We realize NIWA is still young and may change later, but affiliating can be the absolute first step for a candidate wiki to join as a full NIWA wiki. When suggesting a site consider whether they would fit as:
- Affiliates: Wikis and forums supportive of NIWA and/or its members.
- Membership Requests: If the wiki seems ready to stand shoulder to shoulder with the rest, let us know that the submission is a membership request. The staff will need to host a private discussion, but the first step should be a new thread on the site.
- New Wiki Startups: Be clear if your submission is a new wiki intended for NIWA membership. Although we can't build your wiki for you, we can offer guidance, connections, and a place to discussion its potential.
some wiki's that are starting up. They are currently looking for members and contributions:
Lylat Wiki:
Wiki Link (http://www.starfoxwiki.org) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=323.0)
PK Wiki:
Wiki Link (http://grifkuba.org/MotherEarthBoundWiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Special:RecentChanges) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=281.0)
Ace attorney Wiki:
Wiki Link (http://linkjorge.net/aceattorney/index.php/Main_Page) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=302.0)
Thanks for posting that, tacopill!
Yes, and to be fair to them, so there's no rejections yet, I'm going to encourage the view that these aren't yet membership requests. I want people to see it as some new wikis that should be members someday- and get to helping them!
So far, the strongest one is the Animal Crossing Wiki. I have the link but I haven't heard if they are prepped for a semi-public soft launch. I've been busy, they've been busy, so we haven't communicated.
Quote from: Laurus on August 05, 2010, 08:32:34 PM
Thanks for posting that, tacopill!
You are welcome.
Quote from: Axiomist on August 05, 2010, 08:38:12 PM
Yes, and to be fair to them, so there's no rejections yet, I'm going to encourage the view that these aren't yet membership requests. I want people to see it as some new wikis that should be members someday- and get to helping them!
So far, the strongest one is the Animal Crossing Wiki. I have the link but I haven't heard if they are prepped for a semi-public soft launch. I've been busy, they've been busy, so we haven't communicated.
Oooops, i forgot about the Animal Crossing Wiki.....
come to think of it, what other series need to be started up?
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Ace attorney - Ace attorney Wiki
Wiki Link (http://linkjorge.net/aceattorney/index.php/Main_Page) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=302.0)
Brain AgeCustom RoboEarthbound/Mother - PK Wiki
Wiki Link (http://grifkuba.org/MotherEarthBoundWiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Special:RecentChanges) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=281.0)
F-ZeroFire EmblemGame & Watch Golden SunKid IcurisThe Legendary StarfyPikminI found a "pikmin wiki"...of-sorts...hosted at the same place Ace Attorney Wiki is. It has one article, the Main page,...but it exists. Here (http://linkjorge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
Puzzle LeaguePunch OutStar Fox - Lylat Wiki
Wiki Link (http://www.starfoxwiki.org) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=323.0)
Touch! Generationscovered by GameHiker.
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Above is the franchises that are on wikipedia's Category:Nintendo franchises (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_franchises), similar to the list i posted on the previous thread. However, this time around i am looking for a catalog-of-sorts, where we can list places for people to visit the wiki and the forum thread where people can talk about it. (i also threw on the franchises i listed earlier, as examples).
I think GameHiker covers everything. So I'd default to them for everything. People should still be encourage to create fan wikis which would have more coverage of a series tho.
I'd love to make a wiki. Out of those listed, I'd prefer F-Zero, since I know more about that than the others. The problem is, I don't have the computer to do it with. Ever tried building a wiki on Vista Basic?
Quote from: Moydow on August 05, 2010, 10:27:51 PM
I'd love to make a wiki. Out of those listed, I'd prefer F-Zero, since I know more about that than the others. The problem is, I don't have the computer to do it with. Ever tried building a wiki on Vista Basic?
Nope, i haven't tried. I rent webspace, as i don't have the money for a business-class connection with my ISP.....plus i don't have server-running experience.....and other reasons.
While in the long term, NIWA may be able to arrange hosting solutions for its smaller members, wikis that are trying for NIWA membership really need to show that they can stand on their own two feet first. Ideally, people starting up these wikis should be the existing communities around these franchises, rather than people who haven't run a wiki or large fansite before.
I agree fully with that. If there isn't a strong fanbase for a franchise, the wiki more than likely won't draw in visitors, and will fail.
works for me.
Quote from: tacopill on August 05, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
Pikmin
I found a "pikmin wiki"...of-sorts...hosted at the same place Ace Attorney Wiki is. It has one article, the Main page,...but it exists. Here (http://linkjorge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
This was actually a test made by me and the other admins at the site which we planned to change back to what it was before (a Banjo-Kazooie wiki) after we were done testing it, though I do have plans for a real Pikmin wiki.
Quote from: Turboo on August 08, 2010, 01:46:43 AM
Quote from: tacopill on August 05, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
Pikmin
I found a "pikmin wiki"...of-sorts...hosted at the same place Ace Attorney Wiki is. It has one article, the Main page,...but it exists. Here (http://linkjorge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
This was actually a test made by me and the other admins at the site which we planned to change back to what it was before (a Banjo-Kazooie wiki) after we were done testing it, though I do have plans for a real Pikmin wiki.
Ok, sounds good. How long do you think it will take until these plans come through?
*sighs* Sorry if I'm being nooby but I'm not used to here.
I have a Wiki up that I made for the NIWA that I'm slowly working on but I need some help on it considering me and a few people on Zelda Temple are working on it.
http://fireemblemwiki.zelda-temple.net/Main_Page
http://fireemblemwiki.zelda-temple.net/Category:Classes As you can see we'll easily have a lot of articles in no time... Once we work on it a bit.
I don't have the money for a domain name so I'll ask someone later. The wiki just started up so I'm looking for affiliaitions. =\
And sorry if I posted it in the wrong section. >_<; Like I said I'm new.
Coool, a Fire Emblem Wiki! I have three games (actually four, but I haven't played one significantly) so I'll be able to help. :D
Specifically, I'm experienced in the Sacred Stones, which, by no coincidence, is the easiest. (it's the only one I've beaten.)
I've played FE6 - Sword of Seals (English Patch), FE7 - Blazing Sword, FE8 - Sacred Stones (<3 Joshua), and FE9- Path of Radiance (<3 Soren). So XD. I need to replay some of them.
You are now affiliated with WiKirby! I gotta sleep and work tomorrow, then go to my lil sis's bday dinner, but feel free to pressure someone/anyone/everyone at WiKirby to get you a mainpage announcement.
Could use some more help. I've worked on two different games using their English names instead of Japanese ones.
http://fireemblemwiki.zelda-temple.net/Fire_Emblem:_New_Mystery_of_the_Emblem,_Heroes_of_Light_and_Shadow
http://fireemblemwiki.zelda-temple.net/Fire_Emblem:_Sword_of_Seals
Yeah...
Quote from: Axiomist on September 10, 2010, 04:35:00 AM
You are now affiliated with WiKirby! I gotta sleep and work tomorrow, then go to my lil sis's bday dinner, but feel free to pressure someone/anyone/everyone at WiKirby to get you a mainpage announcement.
Done :D
i'd like to help, but the only time I've done anything with fire emblem if smash bros.
Anything specific you need help on? templates? files?
Quote from: tacopill on September 11, 2010, 08:36:52 PM
i'd like to help, but the only time I've done anything with fire emblem if smash bros.
Anything specific you need help on? templates? files?
Smash Bros. would be nice for Marth and Roy... And I need some official artwork (with transparency). Template help too.
ok. i am now a member. I am going to do some surfing before i do any editing, learn the wiki's behaviors and everything.
Alright sounds good... If we can get a decent amount of editors... FE wiki should be completed rather soon... Maybe.
yeap. Please remember.... i posted something on my talk page i'd like you to look at....and answer.
Oh, a new wiki based on Fire Emblem! Great, and just in time as Nintendo kinda announced (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/08/fire-emblem-heroes-of-light-and-shadow-spotted-in-nintendo-power/) the second Fire Emblem game on the Nintendo DS will see an overseas release!
Quote from: Hope(N Forever) on September 16, 2010, 04:34:11 PM
Oh, a new wiki based on Fire Emblem! Great, and just in time as Nintendo kinda announced (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/08/fire-emblem-heroes-of-light-and-shadow-spotted-in-nintendo-power/) the second Fire Emblem game on the Nintendo DS will see an overseas release!
I saw that through a FE group on DA.
I was wondering if a Nintendo based community by the name Ninbuzz, could become an affiliate with us, they only do Nintendo related things, other than Sonic for whatever reason, and run by using videos on their Youtube page, new videos of your own can be requested to be posted by their channel as long as it follows certain guidelines. Ultimately, I think Ninbuzz could be a cool affiliate, but it's up to everyone else.
http://www.nintendobuzz.com/
Quote from: Remino52 on September 24, 2010, 12:31:51 AM
I was wondering if a Nintendo based community by the name Ninbuzz, could become an affiliate with us, they only do Nintendo related things, other than Sonic for whatever reason, and run by using videos on their Youtube page, new videos of your own can be requested to be posted by their channel as long as it follows certain guidelines. Ultimately, I think Ninbuzz could be a cool affiliate, but it's up to everyone else.
http://www.nintendobuzz.com/
This sounds good.
Well, we need their approval before adding them as affiliates
That site is really barebones and basic. It doesn't really have anything unique or a wow factor at all. I can guarantee that is NOT the Skyward Sword cover art but is a fan-shopped image. (Sorry to nit-pick on that, but too many Zelda sites make up their news and it should embarrass them but never does.) With a total of 1 commentator on most of the pages, my instincts tell me Ninbuzz is staring down the barrel of whatever kills sites.
As far as being a source of NintendoBuzz... they are missing a lot of news.
I sort of agree with Axiomist. The front page is cluttered with a bunch of random battles. Plus, the bad grammar bothers me. I'm quite a stickler for good grammar.
On another note:
Quote from: tacopill on August 05, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
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Ace attorney - Ace attorney Wiki
Wiki Link (http://linkjorge.net/aceattorney/index.php/Main_Page) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=302.0)
Brain Age
Custom Robo
Earthbound/Mother - PK Wiki
Wiki Link (http://grifkuba.org/MotherEarthBoundWiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Special:RecentChanges) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=281.0)
F-Zero
Fire Emblem
Wiki Link! (http://fireemblemwiki.info/)
Game & Watch
Golden Sun
Kid Icuris
The Legendary Starfy
Pikmin
I found a "pikmin wiki"...of-sorts...hosted at the same place Ace Attorney Wiki is. It has one article, the Main page,...but it exists. Here (http://linkjorge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
Puzzle League
Punch Out
Star Fox - Lylat Wiki
Wiki Link (http://www.starfoxwiki.org) and Forum Post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=323.0)
Touch! Generations
covered by GameHiker.
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Above is the franchises that are on wikipedia's Category:Nintendo franchises (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_franchises), similar to the list i posted on the previous thread. However, this time around i am looking for a catalog-of-sorts, where we can list places for people to visit the wiki and the forum thread where people can talk about it. (i also threw on the franchises i listed earlier, as examples).
We count Ace Attorney because it's published by Nintendo in Australia. By that inclusion, the Baten Kaitos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baten_Kaitos:_Eternal_Wings_and_the_Lost_Ocean) series could be included. It's published by Namco, but like Ace Attorney, in Australia it's published by Nintendo. And the prequel, Baten Kaitos Origins, is published by Nintendo universally. I only own the first game, and I'm not very far. Unfortunately there aren't any independent wikis around, but the Wikia wiki is of quite poor quality. Is this eligible for inclusion?
Wikifang (http://telefang.wikia.com), the Telefang (et al Smilesoft games) Wiki should be moving away from Wikia soon. Would it be eligible for affiliation? All (4) Smilesoft games that the wiki covers were released on Nintendo consoles.
It has over 600 articles, though has been fairly inactive as of late.
Thanks!
Once it's off Wikia, it'll be eligible for affiliation at least, I'd imagine.
Quote from: Moydow on October 18, 2010, 03:13:04 PM
Once it's off Wikia, it'll be eligible for affiliation at least, I'd imagine.
definitly
In that case, what about well-known SmashWiki (http://ssbwiki.com/)? It's gone independent. I already posted that somewhere, but not many appear to have noticed.
Sounds like a good idea
I remember reading on SmashWiki that we'd let them join the next Friday they're ready.
Oh, I didn't know you know that :P
IT'S A SECRET TO EVERYBODY. :-X
Ah well! :P
I found the discussion about that on the wiki, actually. It was all imported from "SmashWikia" (now its current name), so talk pages still exist discussing moving to a new domain and getting help from NIWA. Apparently "smashwiki.com" is owned by Wikia until June; it redirects to SmashWikia.
Quote from: dany36 on October 20, 2010, 12:48:39 AM
IT'S A SECRET TO EVERYBODY. :-X
Ah well! :P
I'll be damned then. :P
Would this wikia be acceptable for the NIWA. ITs an F-Zero Wiki. I believe no ones working on it and I think we could possibly convince them.
Link: http://fzero.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
if no one is working on it, then who would we talk to in order to try to convince them to go independent?
It's got some recent edits, but it doesn't seem to have anyone really dedicated. Maybe someone could work on getting Administrator access if they have no active admins? I know Wikia likes to give that to people who are interested when a Wiki is "abandoned" by its original users. If we can get that much, then we can reinvigorate it and take it off Wikia possibly.
I remember someone here wanted to work on an F-Zero wiki
I Know Zenox (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=220) was interested.
How would one convince niwa that someone is interested in "taking care" of the wiki?
I'd be up for it, if there is nobody more qualified, except I'm penniless so I can't help it go independent.
So, if no one else volunteers, here is what i propose:
Get in to the wiki, become an admin and prep it exportation. If i am successful with the my plans, i will be able host the wiki next to WikiBound.
I make no guarantees on this, however.
Hey, I can help you out with the first oart of that plan, that's for sure, of course this might nit make NIWA look good in the eyes of those who mught still be devoted to the wiki. Not at all, actually.
Quote from: Tucayo on October 29, 2010, 10:47:37 PM
I remember someone here wanted to work on an F-Zero wiki
That would have been me: here (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=320.msg6206#msg6206)
Though I don't have the money to make them independent. One of the Bureaucrats on the Wikia, FullMetal Falcon, is, however, very active on Wikipedia. His user page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FullMetal_Falcon)
Anyone want to talk to him?
I will
If you're still considering Fire Emblem stuff, there's always the Fire Emblem Wikia, though I don't know how they'd feel about quitting Wikia. (But seriously why wouldn't you want to?)
Also, once Wikia's ownership of smashwiki.com ends, is there any way NIWA could get it and have it redirect to ssbwiki.com?
Quote from: Miles of SmashWiki on October 30, 2010, 09:43:01 PM
If you're still considering Fire Emblem stuff, there's always the Fire Emblem Wikia, though I don't know how they'd feel about quitting Wikia. (But seriously why wouldn't you want to?)
Um, they are talking about F-Zero.
As for Fire Embelm, This wiki (http://www.fireemblemwiki.info/Main_Page) is an up-and-coming and focused on Fire Emblem.
then someone should go to the wikia one and propose a merge (like with Arwingpedia)
Full Metal Falcon said he would like to do that. He now needs a list of the persons who would like to be admins in order to help the site
I can help out with that one, and I'm guessing Moydow can too.
You guess correctly :)
What are your Wikia usernames?
Moydow, of course
bud0011
level3, no caps.
EDIT: inform him that for the mext few days i will be unable to edit too much, as my computer is off being repaired, and i am currently using my phone
Would a Chibi-Robo! wiki be able to join the alliance? The series has 3 games, all on Nintendo systems. They all are developed by second party companies, AKA Skip. Of course, there aren't any independent ones yet...
yes, The games are published by Nintendo.
GOOD NEWS!
Moydow, Level 3 and tacopill, you are admins now! Feel free to advertise the wiki here in the forums
sweet!
That's cool, congratulations!
But how is that related to new alliance requests?
Our intention is to help the wiki, for now content-wise, and when the time comes, moving it off Wikia to an independent server and hopefully NIWA affiliation/membership.
Congratulations to you three! Hopefully the wiki will be the greatest F-Zero fan site on the internet.
Great news on my part as well, I'll be able to stary contributing Saturday, but i have some time constraints now that i'll try to get around.
OK, i've started a F-Zero Wikia Forum Discussion on this (http://fzero.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Leaving_Wikia_Related_Discussions).
Figured I'd put this back up now, and update it/add more series. So right now, these are series without NIWA wikis:
Ace attorney
Wiki was in the works around the time of WiKirby, Metroid Wiki, and Wars Wiki, but closed due to MYSQL errors.
Animal Crossing
Animal Crossing Wiki is up and running with over 1,000 articles.
Brain Age
Possibly not big enough for a wiki
Chibi-Robo!
I'm starting up Chibipedia, though it might not be NIWA-bound.
Custom Robo
Nothing planned from what I've seen.
F-Zero
F-Zero Wikia, planning to move.
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem Wiki is in the works, and has a small community building up.
Game & Watch
Wiki is technically in the works, but user didn't realize Wikia wikis are ineligible.
Golden Sun
WaddleDude had plans, but doesn't have the money to start one independently from what I've read.
Kid Icarus
Palutenapedia is starting up, and is actually building up pretty well on Wikkii, the farm it's hosted on.
The Legendary Starfy
Heard some things about Wikia's moving, but no action.
Puzzle League
Nothing planned from what I've seen.
Punch Out
Nothing planned from what I've seen.
Touch! Generations
Touch! Generations Wiki is in the works on Wikkii just like Palutenapedia.
Fanon wikis
There is one, but I don't have the link.
The fanon wiki you're thinking of, would that be Peanut64's Mario Fanon Wiki (http://www.mariofanonwiki.com)?
Yes it is.
Even though they're on Wikia right now, Golden Sun Universe is very extensive with over 1,000 articles and is getting a lot of traffic (relatively) with the upcoming release of Dark Dawn. I'm wondering if they've considered leaving Wikia to become independent or not. Think they might be worth talking to?
Quote from: BrandedOne on November 13, 2010, 03:14:28 PM
Even though they're on Wikia right now, Golden Sun Universe is very extensive with over 1,000 articles and is getting a lot of traffic (relatively) with the upcoming release of Dark Dawn. I'm wondering if they've considered leaving Wikia to become independent or not. Think they might be worth talking to?
i would be up to it.
I'd be willing to host if need be. :>
There is a major franchise that I'd like to point out is missing some attention: The Harvest Moon / Rune Factory franchises. They have dozens of video games under those franchises (most of them on Nintendo), and new games are constantly coming out for those two franchises as well, so they are still relevant.
But is it considered a Nintendo Franchise (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)?
Sadly, I don't believe that it's a "Nintendo Franchise" as has been defined in the post you cite. However, the series has a long history on Nintendo consoles, with a good bulk of them (over 75%) being on Nintendo consoles. It may not be the most "faithful" of franchises, but it is a franchise of respectable size that is still growing. I feel it would be a shame not to include Harvest Moon/Rune Factory in NIWA.
This is a small consideration for now and not a real request, but I wanted NIWA to know early off: Yesterday I launched a Wikkii hosted website focussing on the Balloon Fight series at http://balloon.wikkii.com/ (http://balloon.wikkii.com/).
I am interested in the series, owning two games (Balloon Fight and Balloon Kid) though I could not find any other wikis focussing on information about any other Balloon Fight games, (with the exception of ZeldaWiki with an article about Tingle's Balloon Fight DS and Wikipedia's page about Balloon Fight, which briefly mentions the series) so I decided to start my own Balloon Fight Wiki for other people to read and contribute to.
At the moment there are only 20 articles but I wanted to ask whether anybody likes the idea. Of course, in concept Balloon Fight wiki realistically would not be ready for affiliation until the later months of 2011. The articles at the moment are very short with the most informative article being Fish at 3,864 bytes.
Quote from: Maxite on November 15, 2010, 08:42:18 PM
Sadly, I don't believe that it's a "Nintendo Franchise" as has been defined in the post you cite. However, the series has a long history on Nintendo consoles, with a good bulk of them (over 75%) being on Nintendo consoles. It may not be the most "faithful" of franchises, but it is a franchise of respectable size that is still growing. I feel it would be a shame not to include Harvest Moon/Rune Factory in NIWA.
True. If the organization decides to open up to franchises that aren't just by nintendo, but rather to include 3rd party franchises that are basically nintendo-exclusives, i think we should definitly try to get them in.
Out of curiosity, what company is priniciply responsible for the franchise?
Quote from: Torchickens on November 21, 2010, 11:07:19 PM
This is a small consideration for now and not a real request, but I wanted NIWA to know early off: Yesterday I launched a Wikkii hosted website focussing on the Balloon Fight series at http://balloon.wikkii.com/ (http://balloon.wikkii.com/).
I am interested in the series, owning two games (Balloon Fight and Balloon Kid) though I could not find any other wikis focussing on information about any other Balloon Fight games, (with the exception of ZeldaWiki with an article about Tingle's Balloon Fight DS and Wikipedia's page about Balloon Fight, which briefly mentions the series) so I decided to start my own Balloon Fight Wiki for other people to read and contribute to.
At the moment there are only 20 articles but I wanted to ask whether anybody likes the idea. Of course, in concept Balloon Fight wiki realistically would not be ready for affiliation until the later months of 2011. The articles at the moment are very short with the most informative article being Fish at 3,864 bytes.
Welcome aboard Torchic, and cool that you have started a wiki. Feel free to explore and post on these forums for any help you need. I am sure there is at least one person around here who could come up with a solution for whatever problem you have, you just got to get the wiki out there to attract (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=253) editors (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=78).
Please keep in mind, in order to be a member, you will eventually need to be independent of any wiki farm. Still, Wikkii is a good start, as they give you a lot of control over the wiki, while asking for minimal in return.
Welcome again, and i look forward to seeing the Wiki grow.
Quote from: tacopill on November 22, 2010, 02:26:05 AM
Quote from: Maxite on November 15, 2010, 08:42:18 PM
Sadly, I don't believe that it's a "Nintendo Franchise" as has been defined in the post you cite. However, the series has a long history on Nintendo consoles, with a good bulk of them (over 75%) being on Nintendo consoles. It may not be the most "faithful" of franchises, but it is a franchise of respectable size that is still growing. I feel it would be a shame not to include Harvest Moon/Rune Factory in NIWA.
True. If the organization decides to open up to franchises that aren't just by nintendo, but rather to include 3rd party franchises that are basically nintendo-exclusives, i think we should definitly try to get them in.
Out of curiosity, what company is priniciply responsible for the franchise?
Quote from: Torchickens on November 21, 2010, 11:07:19 PM
This is a small consideration for now and not a real request, but I wanted NIWA to know early off: Yesterday I launched a Wikkii hosted website focussing on the Balloon Fight series at http://balloon.wikkii.com/ (http://balloon.wikkii.com/).
I am interested in the series, owning two games (Balloon Fight and Balloon Kid) though I could not find any other wikis focussing on information about any other Balloon Fight games, (with the exception of ZeldaWiki with an article about Tingle's Balloon Fight DS and Wikipedia's page about Balloon Fight, which briefly mentions the series) so I decided to start my own Balloon Fight Wiki for other people to read and contribute to.
At the moment there are only 20 articles but I wanted to ask whether anybody likes the idea. Of course, in concept Balloon Fight wiki realistically would not be ready for affiliation until the later months of 2011. The articles at the moment are very short with the most informative article being Fish at 3,864 bytes.
Welcome aboard Torchic, and cool that you have started a wiki. Feel free to explore and post on these forums for any help you need. I am sure there is at least one person around here who could come up with a solution for whatever problem you have, you just got to get the wiki out there to attract (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=253) editors (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=78).
Please keep in mind, in order to be a member, you will eventually need to be independent of any wiki farm. Still, Wikkii is a good start, as they give you a lot of control over the wiki, while asking for minimal in return.
Welcome again, and i look forward to seeing the Wiki grow.
I joined your wiki and hope the best for it.
Thank you Tacopill and Turtwig A.
Quote from: tacopill on November 22, 2010, 02:26:05 AM
Out of curiosity, what company is priniciply responsible for the franchise?
QuoteHarvest Moon (???? Bokuj? Monogatari?, lit. "The Farm Story") is a series of life simulation/farm simulation/role-playing video games produced by Victor Interactive Software (acquired by Marvelous Entertainment in 2003) and was originally created by Yasuhiro Wada in 1996.
From Wikipedia. :P
There is a Wikia (http://harvestmoon.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page)... can't find a independent one tho. Couple other Wikifarms ones.
if Harvest Moon can join what about Dragon Quest?
Quote from: Koroku on November 22, 2010, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: tacopill on November 22, 2010, 02:26:05 AM
Out of curiosity, what company is priniciply responsible for the franchise?
QuoteHarvest Moon (???? Bokuj? Monogatari?, lit. "The Farm Story") is a series of life simulation/farm simulation/role-playing video games produced by Victor Interactive Software (acquired by Marvelous Entertainment in 2003) and was originally created by Yasuhiro Wada in 1996.
From Wikipedia. :P
There is a Wikia (http://harvestmoon.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page)... can't find a independent one tho. Couple other Wikifarms ones.
i was kind of hoping he would tell me :P
Quote from: Lord Ferrok on November 22, 2010, 11:16:50 PM
if Harvest Moon can join what about Dragon Quest?
I Would need to take it up with the staff. But worth a try.
I think Natsume is in charge of Harvest Moon.
Quote from: vince220 on November 23, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
I think Natsume is in charge of Harvest Moon.
Ok, is there any other wiki's based on franchises also by Natsume? ;D
Quote from: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 12:20:26 AM
Quote from: vince220 on November 23, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
I think Natsume is in charge of Harvest Moon.
Ok, is there any other wiki's based on franchises also by Natsume? ;D
are there any other franchises made by Natsume?
Quote from: Lord Ferrok on November 24, 2010, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 12:20:26 AM
Quote from: vince220 on November 23, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
I think Natsume is in charge of Harvest Moon.
Ok, is there any other wiki's based on franchises also by Natsume? ;D
are there any other franchises made by Natsume?
They developed Kirby: Squeak Squad and Ninja Gaiden Shadow. They also published Medabots Infinity for the GameCube. Aside from Harvest Moon, they don't really own any major franchises. Most of their work has been with one game in a series, or ports, or licensed games.
Quote from: vince220 on November 24, 2010, 01:10:20 AM
Quote from: Lord Ferrok on November 24, 2010, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 12:20:26 AM
Quote from: vince220 on November 23, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
I think Natsume is in charge of Harvest Moon.
Ok, is there any other wiki's based on franchises also by Natsume? ;D
are there any other franchises made by Natsume?
They developed Kirby: Squeak Squad and Ninja Gaiden Shadow. They also published Medabots Infinity for the GameCube. Aside from Harvest Moon, they don't really own any major franchises. Most of their work has been with one game in a series, or ports, or licensed games.
Aw...man. I was hoping we could get another IWA going sometime in the future..... :'(
ah well.
Quote from: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 02:00:54 AM
Quote from: vince220 on November 24, 2010, 01:10:20 AM
Quote from: Lord Ferrok on November 24, 2010, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 12:20:26 AM
Quote from: vince220 on November 23, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
I think Natsume is in charge of Harvest Moon.
Ok, is there any other wiki's based on franchises also by Natsume? ;D
are there any other franchises made by Natsume?
They developed Kirby: Squeak Squad and Ninja Gaiden Shadow. They also published Medabots Infinity for the GameCube. Aside from Harvest Moon, they don't really own any major franchises. Most of their work has been with one game in a series, or ports, or licensed games.
Aw...man. I was hoping we could get another IWA going sometime in the future..... :'(
ah well.
Maybe they will release enough series to get an IWA one day...
Is the Eggerland series considered a Nintendo series because it is published by HAL Laboratory, albeit mostly on non-Nintendo systems?
I've considered covering them on WiKirby, since Lolo and Lala are basically Kirby characters now. Consider how Mario Wiki covers spin offs.
Are Eggerland and The Adventures of Lolo the same series?
Eggerland is the parent series of it. I've always considered it as the parent series of the Kirby series as well.
Quote from: vince220 on November 23, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
I think Natsume is in charge of Harvest Moon.
Not really, they just do English localization and distribution...
According to Wikipedia, Victor Interactive Software originally produced Harvest Moon, but Marvelous Entertainment Inc. acquired it in 2003 when they bought out VIS.
Quote from: BrandedOne on November 24, 2010, 03:29:57 PM
According to Wikipedia, Victor Interactive Software originally produced Harvest Moon, but Marvelous Entertainment Inc. acquired it in 2003 when they bought out VIS.
Which I just quoted (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=320.msg10231#msg10231) :P
So sadly, Harvest Moon really can't join. :(
Quote from: Koroku on November 24, 2010, 04:57:13 PM
Quote from: BrandedOne on November 24, 2010, 03:29:57 PM
According to Wikipedia, Victor Interactive Software originally produced Harvest Moon, but Marvelous Entertainment Inc. acquired it in 2003 when they bought out VIS.
Which I just quoted (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=320.msg10231#msg10231) :P
My bad... :-\
Quote from: Koroku on November 24, 2010, 04:57:13 PM
So sadly, Harvest Moon really can't join. :(
Yes they can. Who cares if they're nintendo or not? They're nintendo enough lol. See strategy wiki joined. Nintendo-ness is something we really need to work on. We have decided that eventually there will be some foundation with grounds to add any independent wiki. But not now..
Quote from: Malake256 on November 24, 2010, 05:08:32 PM
Quote from: Koroku on November 24, 2010, 04:57:13 PM
So sadly, Harvest Moon really can't join. :(
Yes they can. Who cares if they're nintendo or not? They're nintendo enough lol. See strategy wiki joined. Nintendo-ness is something we really need to work on. We have decided that eventually there will be some foundation with grounds to add any independent wiki. But not now..
I am still of the opinion each wiki should join an IWA that is based around the company principly responsible for them. If we allow any wiki in, we risk becoming too big and bureaucratic.
Edit: I just realized i could of said that better. This is what i meant:
I think each wiki should join an IWA that mostly closely related to it. This way, if you want something Square Enix, you go to the Square Enix Portal; You want something Rare(ware), you go to the Rare IWA; and so on. It's a marketing strategy more than anything.
Quote from: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: Malake256 on November 24, 2010, 05:08:32 PM
Quote from: Koroku on November 24, 2010, 04:57:13 PM
So sadly, Harvest Moon really can't join. :(
Yes they can. Who cares if they're nintendo or not? They're nintendo enough lol. See strategy wiki joined. Nintendo-ness is something we really need to work on. We have decided that eventually there will be some foundation with grounds to add any independent wiki. But not now..
I am still of the opinion each wiki should join an IWA that is based around the company principly responsible for them. If we allow any wiki in, we risk becoming too big and bureaucratic.
Edit: I just realized i could of said that better. This is what i meant:
I think each wiki should join an IWA that mostly closely related to it. This way, if you want something Square Enix, you go to the Square Enix Portal; You want something Rare(ware), you go to the Rare IWA; and so on. It's a marketing strategy more than anything.
I behind this idea 100%
Quote from: Malake256 on November 24, 2010, 05:08:32 PM
Yes they can. Who cares if they're nintendo or not? They're nintendo enough lol. See strategy wiki joined. Nintendo-ness is something we really need to work on. We have decided that eventually there will be some foundation with grounds to add any independent wiki. But not now..
If this is the case, then maybe we should approach one of the Harvest Moon wikis! :D
Quote from: BrandedOne on November 24, 2010, 03:29:57 PM
According to Wikipedia, Victor Interactive Software originally produced Harvest Moon, but Marvelous Entertainment Inc. acquired it in 2003 when they bought out VIS.
Marvelous Entertainment is also in charge of No More Heroes.
Quote from: Koroku on November 25, 2010, 12:09:09 AM
Quote from: Malake256 on November 24, 2010, 05:08:32 PM
Yes they can. Who cares if they're nintendo or not? They're nintendo enough lol. See strategy wiki joined. Nintendo-ness is something we really need to work on. We have decided that eventually there will be some foundation with grounds to add any independent wiki. But not now..
If this is the case, then maybe we should approach one of the Harvest Moon wikis! :D
I don't think NIWA is ready to accept a wiki centered on a third-party franchise. However, they could still have a presence on the forums like Wikimon does.
Affiliation with them is very possible, considering that affiliates don't need to be a Nintendo franchise or even a wiki. We could also set up interwiki linking if any aspects are shared between our games and Harvest Moon.
Quote from: Jake on November 25, 2010, 01:48:08 AM
Affiliation with them is very possible, considering that affiliates don't need to be a Nintendo franchise or even a wiki. We could also set up interwiki linking if any aspects are shared between our games and Harvest Moon.
that sounds cool
I can't find a Magical Starsign wiki anywhere. It's one of the least noticed Nintendo series out there.
There are two on Wikia. This one (http://magicalstarsign.wikia.com/wiki/Magical_Starsign_Wiki) is basically empty. This one (http://magicalstarsignmagicalvacation.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page) only has forty-four articles, but some of their articles are very detailed and well-developed.
Quote from: vince220 on November 25, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
There are two on Wikia. This one (http://magicalstarsign.wikia.com/wiki/Magical_Starsign_Wiki) is basically empty. This one (http://magicalstarsignmagicalvacation.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page) only has forty-four articles, but some of their articles are very detailed and well-developed.
Maybe we could help the second one and try to make it independent.
I barely even have a clue about what Magical Starsign is about, so count me out.
Unless anyone has played the games and likes them, it's probably not worth the trouble. It would be like starting a wiki from scratch as far as work goes. If I'm not mistaken, Magical Starsign is an RPG game, and RPG games have so much content to cover.
how would it be liking starting a new wiki? if they have some very developed articles, and they're a "nintendo franchise", then we i say we at least try.
http://kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SiegfreidZ#NIWA (http://kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SiegfreidZ#NIWA)
There's all of the community right there in census... wiki seriously needs a bigger community and I hope NIWA can help it.
Quote from: HavocReaper48 on November 29, 2010, 01:00:36 AM
http://kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SiegfreidZ#NIWA (http://kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SiegfreidZ#NIWA)
There's all of the community right there in census... wiki seriously needs a bigger community and I hope NIWA can help it.
I don't know, there is Palutenapedia in the works and it has more articles. Though a merge between the two could bring some more of a community.
Quote from: TurtwigA on November 29, 2010, 01:08:49 AM
Quote from: HavocReaper48 on November 29, 2010, 01:00:36 AM
http://kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SiegfreidZ#NIWA (http://kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:SiegfreidZ#NIWA)
There's all of the community right there in census... wiki seriously needs a bigger community and I hope NIWA can help it.
I don't know, there is Palutenapedia in the works and it has more articles. Though a merge between the two could bring some more of a community.
I'd support a merge as well.
At some point, it needs to be considered that there might be "misfits" who don't fit in perfectly with the rest. Harvest Moon is a perfect example, as it doesn't perfectly fit into NIWA since it does have some games (and even ports) onto other consoles. A Marvelous Entertainment Independent Wiki Association would be clumsy at best since MMV makes games for all sorts of consoles and many of their games are one-offs or related to anime or manga series. The main (and best) connection that Harvest Moon has is that it has primarily been on Nintendo consoles.
I think that NIWA should be capable of adopting series that are orphaned (have no real IWA that they could ideally belong to) if a decent Nintendo connection can be established. I'm sure that there are other series besides the Harvest Moon/Rune Factory franchise that are in a similar tight spot.
Quote from: Maxite on December 01, 2010, 02:15:13 AM
At some point, it needs to be considered that there might be "misfits" who don't fit in perfectly with the rest. Harvest Moon is a perfect example, as it doesn't perfectly fit into NIWA since it does have some games (and even ports) onto other consoles. A Marvelous Entertainment Independent Wiki Association would be clumsy at best since MMV makes games for all sorts of consoles and many of their games are one-offs or related to anime or manga series. The main (and best) connection that Harvest Moon has is that it has primarily been on Nintendo consoles.
I think that NIWA should be capable of adopting series that are orphaned (have no real IWA that they could ideally belong to) if a decent Nintendo connection can be established. I'm sure that there are other series besides the Harvest Moon/Rune Factory franchise that are in a similar tight spot.
Yes, if there is no better IWA out there, then i am sure they could join. I'd rather be inclusive then exclusive.
But keep in mind, i don't think we ever said an IWA is strictly video game wikis.
where will series like Clu Clu Land go? Way to small to make it's own wiki, not not mention no where enough content.
On the N-Wiki (http://www.niwanetwork.org/wiki) that's just launched to the public today, that's where. ;)
Quote from: Archaic on December 10, 2010, 08:04:33 PM
On the N-Wiki (http://www.niwanetwork.org/wiki) that's just launched to the public today, that's where. ;)
That's what I thought, same with other small one game series like Duck Hunt, Drill Dozer, etc?
Quote from: Lord Ferrok on December 10, 2010, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: Archaic on December 10, 2010, 08:04:33 PM
On the N-Wiki (http://www.niwanetwork.org/wiki) that's just launched to the public today, that's where. ;)
That's what I thought, same with other small one game series like Duck Hunt, Drill Dozer, etc?
Indeed.
Quote from: tacopill on December 10, 2010, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: Lord Ferrok on December 10, 2010, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: Archaic on December 10, 2010, 08:04:33 PM
On the N-Wiki (http://www.niwanetwork.org/wiki) that's just launched to the public today, that's where. ;)
That's what I thought, same with other small one game series like Duck Hunt, Drill Dozer, etc?
Indeed.
Excellent! It's all falling into place...
Quote from: Lord Ferrok on December 10, 2010, 08:30:37 PM
Quote from: tacopill on December 10, 2010, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: Lord Ferrok on December 10, 2010, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: Archaic on December 10, 2010, 08:04:33 PM
On the N-Wiki (http://www.niwanetwork.org/wiki) that's just launched to the public today, that's where. ;)
That's what I thought, same with other small one game series like Duck Hunt, Drill Dozer, etc?
Indeed.
Excellent! It's all falling into place...
Here's a hypothetical situation - If a franchise accumulates enough articles that it could stand as a wiki on its own, would it be able to branch off of N-Wiki and form a new wiki?
That would require more than 200 articles on one subject, but I'm sure it would be possible as long as there are people dedicated to the series and someone willing to set up/host the wiki.
First the initiative to create a wiki must take place. Then, if it joins, it'll be sort of like the Mario Wiki and Donkey Kong Wiki situation. Except, I PRESUME that N-Wiki won't cover as much about the game, now that there's the standalone wiki.
And the 200 article thing is outdated, as shown in staff discussions.
Quote from: TurtwigA on December 11, 2010, 02:23:15 AM
First the initiative to create a wiki must take place. Then, if it joins, it'll be sort of like the Mario Wiki and Donkey Kong Wiki situation. Except, I PRESUME that N-Wiki won't cover as much about the game, now that there's the standalone wiki.
And the 200 article thing is outdated, as shown in staff discussions.
I haven't had the chance to read through all the staff discussions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume it's now that there just has to be enough content to justify the creation of a wiki.
I think the rule of "current wiki must approve the new wiki's inclusion" can be exempt or ignored when it comes to N Wiki;
Anyway, it might be possible for people to use N Wiki as an incubator for a wiki.
This would be on a case-by-case basis, and would need approval from the N Wiki staff, when one is established.
Sounds good ;D
Rather than the goal being to create new wikis (which is fine, but goes back to the "wiki for a sake of a wiki" thing), I was imagining a situation in which the articles on a particular series build up on N-Wiki over time, eventually becoming numerous enough to support a wiki by themselves. Ah, speculation. It's so much fun :laugh:
Quote from: BrandedOne on December 11, 2010, 04:03:33 AM
Sounds good ;D
Rather than the goal being to create new wikis (which is fine, but goes back to the "wiki for a sake of a wiki" thing), I was imagining a situation in which the articles on a particular series build up on N-Wiki over time, eventually becoming numerous enough to support a wiki by themselves. Ah, speculation. It's so much fun :laugh:
That it is.
Any particular series you had in mind?
Quote from: tacopill on December 11, 2010, 05:40:45 AM
Quote from: BrandedOne on December 11, 2010, 04:03:33 AM
Sounds good ;D
Rather than the goal being to create new wikis (which is fine, but goes back to the "wiki for a sake of a wiki" thing), I was imagining a situation in which the articles on a particular series build up on N-Wiki over time, eventually becoming numerous enough to support a wiki by themselves. Ah, speculation. It's so much fun :laugh:
That it is.
Any particular series you had in mind?
Well, not really, but there are plenty of instances where users claim there isn't enough information about a series to make a wiki out of, and I think sometimes they might be surprised what might get written if given the chance.
I'm surprised that Pikmin can support an entire wiki around itself. It's two games. Yet they managed to do it. I suspect that other series that have limited number of games can do the same, it just depends on what all they have to play with and what they agree to play with.
Quote from: Maxite on December 11, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
I'm surprised that Pikmin can support an entire wiki around itself. It's two games. Yet they managed to do it. I suspect that other series that have limited number of games can do the same, it just depends on what all they have to play with and what they agree to play with.
Pikmin may only have two games, but it has
a lot of elements to it. Enemies, locations, strategies, Pikmin, and the story all make up over 1,200 articles on that wiki. It's really impressive to see how great a job the Pikmin wiki editors have done.
Quote from: BrandedOne on December 11, 2010, 07:07:23 PM
Quote from: tacopill on December 11, 2010, 05:40:45 AM
Quote from: BrandedOne on December 11, 2010, 04:03:33 AM
Sounds good ;D
Rather than the goal being to create new wikis (which is fine, but goes back to the "wiki for a sake of a wiki" thing), I was imagining a situation in which the articles on a particular series build up on N-Wiki over time, eventually becoming numerous enough to support a wiki by themselves. Ah, speculation. It's so much fun :laugh:
That it is.
Any particular series you had in mind?
Well, not really, but there are plenty of instances where users claim there isn't enough information about a series to make a wiki out of, and I think sometimes they might be surprised what might get written if given the chance.
Good point.
Quote from: Jake on December 11, 2010, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: Maxite on December 11, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
I'm surprised that Pikmin can support an entire wiki around itself. It's two games. Yet they managed to do it. I suspect that other series that have limited number of games can do the same, it just depends on what all they have to play with and what they agree to play with.
Pikmin may only have two games, but it has a lot of elements to it. Enemies, locations, strategies, Pikmin, and the story all make up over 1,200 articles on that wiki. It's really impressive to see how great a job the Pikmin wiki editors have done.
Also true.
Anyway, if we were to do this, i think we may want to go with StrategyWiki's page naming scheme, like
Game name/
element of game.
What do you think?
Quote from: Jake on December 11, 2010, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: Maxite on December 11, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
I'm surprised that Pikmin can support an entire wiki around itself. It's two games. Yet they managed to do it. I suspect that other series that have limited number of games can do the same, it just depends on what all they have to play with and what they agree to play with.
Pikmin may only have two games, but it has a lot of elements to it. Enemies, locations, strategies, Pikmin, and the story all make up over 1,200 articles on that wiki. It's really impressive to see how great a job the Pikmin wiki editors have done.
I am familiar with that aspect, thus the "it just depends on what they have to play with." The Pimin games are rich in elements, so of course Pikipedia had a lot of things that they could play with. Other games might not be as diverse, but if they play their hands right they can still end up with an outstanding wiki.
Quote from: Maxite on December 11, 2010, 10:24:08 PM
Quote from: Jake on December 11, 2010, 08:00:15 PM
Quote from: Maxite on December 11, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
I'm surprised that Pikmin can support an entire wiki around itself. It's two games. Yet they managed to do it. I suspect that other series that have limited number of games can do the same, it just depends on what all they have to play with and what they agree to play with.
Pikmin may only have two games, but it has a lot of elements to it. Enemies, locations, strategies, Pikmin, and the story all make up over 1,200 articles on that wiki. It's really impressive to see how great a job the Pikmin wiki editors have done.
I am familiar with that aspect, thus the "it just depends on what they have to play with." The Pimin games are rich in elements, so of course Pikipedia had a lot of things that they could play with. Other games might not be as diverse, but if they play their hands right they can still end up with an outstanding wiki.
This is true.
Now, i need to find a wiki based on an amazing one-off game.
I thought GameHiker was the wiki where unwikid series would go? :/
Quote from: Malake256 on December 13, 2010, 03:01:54 AM
I thought GameHiker was the wiki where unwikid series would go? :/
GameHiker would be a better place to build a new wiki's content. The scope is NWiki is meant to be on the technical Nintendo stuff that few of us care to write about at FanWikis. The game pages are meant to be short, brief coverages of the game, and link to the NIWA member for the indepth coverage. So while NWiki certainly shouldn't have character, level/dungeon, item, boss pages; GameHiker does include Notable Characters, Important Items, etc. I'm certain any work to later be imported type deal could be struck with them; and I'd imagine they would retain content that falls within their scope.
Quote from: Axiomist on December 13, 2010, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: Malake256 on December 13, 2010, 03:01:54 AM
I thought GameHiker was the wiki where unwikid series would go? :/
GameHiker would be a better place to build a new wiki's content. The scope is NWiki is meant to be on the technical Nintendo stuff that few of us care to write about at FanWikis. The game pages are meant to be short, brief coverages of the game, and link to the NIWA member for the indepth coverage. So while NWiki certainly should have character, level/dungeon, item, boss pages; GameHiker does include Notable Characters, Important Items, etc. I'm certain any work to later be imported type deal could be struck with them; and I'd imagine they would retain content that falls within their scope.
We're planning on recruiting GameHiker then, I presume?
I don't think we should be recruiting anyone until internal problems have been resolved.
Quote from: Maxite on December 13, 2010, 06:02:00 PM
I don't think we should be recruiting anyone until internal problems have been resolved.
Sounds like a fair plan. To what internal problems might you be referring?
An apparent lack of organization and communication overall, and a definite lack of organization and communication with the public.
As you stomp around NIWA, demanding change, bear in mind, the whole thing is new, less than one year old, modeled after nothing but our own ideas, and run by people dedicated to at least one other site (their wiki). We're open to seeing specific ideas for reform and organization.
Also, for your information, Game hiker was invited back in May (if i remember correctly), and would probably be a member now, but they were hacked less then a week after the invite went out, in which they then disappeared afterwards.
Last i heard, they are back up now, if they feel they are ready to join, then i think we owe them a pass in, regardless of our recruitment policy at that time.
If prior obligations are involved, then those would get priority over any policy changes made after. If they've been promised a spot in NIWA, then they should be able to join.
I'm also not trying to "stomp around", and I do apologize if I am. I have started putting my money where my mouth is, and I have started submitting specific ideas for reform to people.
I wish to see NIWA grow to be better than what it is now, and I am sure that is a goal that everyone here also wishes to see. I do hope that everyone can also see that certain things are lacking, and that they can be improved upon with just a modicum of effort. Maybe there should be a public post somewhere where the community as a whole can discuss problems and propose how to fix them.
As Axiomist did say, NIWA is still young, and there is plenty of time to make improvements. I too apologize if I've overstepped my bounds. Just as everyone else is, I'm only here because I want to see NIWA grow into something fantastic. After this week is over I'll be editing like crazy over at Fire Emblem Wiki so that we'll be that much closer to joining.
Quote from: Maxite on December 14, 2010, 04:35:33 AM
If prior obligations are involved, then those would get priority over any policy changes made after. If they've been promised a spot in NIWA, then they should be able to join.
I'm also not trying to "stomp around", and I do apologize if I am. I have started putting my money where my mouth is, and I have started submitting specific ideas for reform to people.
I wish to see NIWA grow to be better than what it is now, and I am sure that is a goal that everyone here also wishes to see. I do hope that everyone can also see that certain things are lacking, and that they can be improved upon with just a modicum of effort. Maybe there should be a public post somewhere where the community as a whole can discuss problems and propose how to fix them.
I will take your suggestion, but in order for it to be as you wish it, then it is very important of whom starts the article. So please, don't anyone see this as an opportunity to start an thread before other people do.
NIWA does not have internal problems. There are obviously things that need to be resolved, but we will never reach perfection and if we sat around waiting for it to happen before we started getting new members, we'd never get a new member again. In fact, getting new Wikis involved increases the inflow of ideas, and perhaps the solution to one of our problems lies in the mind of someone from a Wiki we have not yet added?
NIWA should always continue to grow, always continue to improve, never stagnate, and never be finished. Much like a Wiki itself, actually. There is always something that can be made better.
As for GameHiker, I don't think they were "promised" a spot, and even if they were, it's been a long time. They should be admitted if they want to be, and if we think they're a good addition to NIWA. I've always said that a new member should not be a drain on NIWA - other members do not need to worry about trying to hold up another member when it joins. Obviously, we help each other when we're in need AFTER joining, if an emergency arises or something, but a Wiki should not enter with the mindset of "NIWA is here to pick me up and do magic for me, and I'll just sit back and watch it happen." A certain level of quality and dedication is expected from all members, regardless of what one or a few staff member may have told a wiki such at GH in the past.
To be clear, I'm not saying we shouldn't add them. I'm simply saying we cannot add them no matter what, because we need to make sure they're good for us.
As far as a place for everybody to voice their opinions on what we can improve on, let me just say that NIWA is very, very well off, and very healthy. There are many things to fix, but overall there are no inherent flaws in our system. There were, but we underwent a massive reform effort starting in July that, of course, still continues. Of course, all ideas are welcome, but I must be very, very clear. When I make this thread, it is not an invitation to be rude, demanding, or bossy. It is an invitation to be heard. Respect is not optional. We have a staff of over thirty people, all from different communities, all with great ideas, great minds, and great talents. We are not incompetent. We are simply not perfect.
I will create such a thread and then go to bed. I have work again in about 5 hours. Hopefully this post didn't come off as impatient. I was just trying to be straightforward. :)
I'm admittedly not too good at this recruitment thing (it's been years since I've done anything similar), but has anyone tried contacting www.ranchstory.co.uk about joining NIWA? Yea, they're based off of a third party game (Harvest Moon), but it's one of the bigger titles and often gets confused for a Nintendo title.
My question would be, would adding them to us add to the confusion? if no, then i say we look into it. If yes, then i think it might be a dis-service to bother them and us.
I think to those who are involved in the video gaming communities are less likely to be confused than the general public, and it's the ones who are involved who would primarily be of concern since they'd be the ones editing the wikis and participating in the communities. The public at large probably doesn't know the difference between Creator and Publisher.
Greetings all, I thought I might chime into the discussion. My thanks to Axiomist for pointing me to these forums.
I am an administrator at dragon-quest.org, an independent Dragon Quest wiki which split from Wikia back in October 2010. I have seen Dragon Quest mentioned in several other threads, and I thought I might re-open the discussion regarding our status. Note that I am not yet asking for admission into NIWA. I thought it would be good to first introduce myself and our wiki into the discussion.
To be honest, we really are relatively small. We have a large number of articles but a small articles/active editors ratio. However, should the conditions be right in the future for a collaboration, here would be my arguments for the Dragon Quest series.
- Aside from a brief stint with Sony, it has been exclusive to Nintendo. This brief time period can be attributed to the general abandoning of cartridges which happened with virtually all RPGs in the late 90's.
- Nintendo has begun publishing Dragon Quest titles. Dragon Quest IX was published last July. Dragon Quest VI will release next month
- Since 2005, there have been no releases on non-Nintendo systems, nor plans to do so.
- There are rumors/plans that future Dragon Quest games will be on Nintendo consoles (Dragon Quest X on Wii, another title rumored for 3DS).
Despite these reasons, Dragon Quest is not owned and operated by Nintendo. They are pretty much as close as you get though. ;) I look forward to reading your thoughts/responses.
http://www.dragon-quest.org (http://www.dragon-quest.org)
http://www.dragon-quest.org/wiki/User:FlyingRagnar (http://www.dragon-quest.org/wiki/User:FlyingRagnar)
Glad you came around, I'll bring everyone's attention to your post here. All of the others will need to view Dragon Quest Wiki for themselves. And weigh in on the matter. As indicated by inviting you here, I'm supportive of it. I do know the latest DQ game was published by Nintendo, so although it's not a perfectly Nintendo published series, I think DQ fits in well enough that NIWA's branding wouldn't need any alterations.
I think we should definitely get some standard affiliation going, and try to help you guys improve and offer and support we can that will help prepare you to join when you feel you are ready.
Let me just say though that if you state you are not requesting membership, we will not typically offer it, regardless of the quality of your Wiki. Though there may be exceptions, I just want to clear that up so you don't sit around waiting for us to offer you something. Since you've specifically stated you do not feel ready, we will wait until you do. Until then, I hope we can help you out! :)
Affiliation at least for the DQ wiki. It looks like a large wiki and is practically Nintendo. Is it a second party game? Not sure if that is a correct term, but if it is, would those wikis be allowed in, as they are Nintendo
Dragon Quest is owned and developed by Square Enix. To be more specific, Dragon Quest is basically what made Enix well known and successful prior to the merger with Squaresoft.
Quote from: SuperAlpaca on January 13, 2011, 10:18:36 PM
Affiliation at least for the DQ wiki. It looks like a large wiki and is practically Nintendo. Is it a second party game? Not sure if that is a correct term, but if it is, would those wikis be allowed in, as they are Nintendo
It's blurry. The latest game is as much of a Nintendo game as Pokemon and Kirby are. The way you can tell if a game is published by Nintendo is to look for their logo in the bottom right hand corner.
(http://www.whatds.com/images/Dragon%20Quest%20IX%20Sentinels%20of%20the%20Starry%20Skies%20(U)MS5097.jpg)
Dragon Quest is basically in the same position as Ace Attorney, and I think NIWA is and/or was open to an Ace Attorney Wiki.
Yay! I love Dragon Quest games.
Quote from: FlyingRagnar on January 13, 2011, 11:15:51 PM
Dragon Quest is owned and developed by Square Enix.
Personally, I think that pretty much says it all right there. But don't mind me. *cough* SEIWA *cough*
Honestly, what's to say they could not join both? Besides, we're talking about affiliation right now. Even further, SEIWA does not exist right now. We're not discussing adding them yet, and so it doesn't really matter.
yea, i think they would do well in both.
But we will discuss it when they feel they are ready.
Affiliation - Away!
Affiliation, for sure. I say we should accept if they request to join NIWA.
I don't see any problem with a Dragon Quest wiki joining NIWA.
Bump. Just wanted to stop by and say that I have made some major updates to the Dragon Quest Wiki recently. Most were to make things more visually appealing.
http://dragon-quest.org
Now I just need to find some more users. ;) Lately it seems like most of our regular contributors have been on hiatus.
I just joined Ragnar, I'm a huge Dragon Quest fan.
sorry for the delayed response.
The updates you did to the wiki look good. :eekdance:
http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=1051.0 (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=1051.0) and http://farmmoon.gamewiki.me/wiki/Main_Page (http://farmmoon.gamewiki.me/wiki/Main_Page)
Quote from: PkNess on August 25, 2011, 02:16:31 AM
http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=1051.0 (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=1051.0) and http://farmmoon.gamewiki.me/wiki/Main_Page (http://farmmoon.gamewiki.me/wiki/Main_Page)
I assume this is for affiliation, due to the fact that it is not a Nintendo series...
All,
I would like to go ahead and formally request that our wiki be considered for membership in NIWA. I believe that we fulfill all of the requirements listed in the membership doc. We have been independent for almost a year now and I feel that we have progressed to the point where an alliance would be beneficial. The Dragon Quest community is small, but stable. I feel that we could contribute positively to NIWA.
I will present it to the staff.
'Stead of Dragon Quest Wiki affiliating with NIWA, I propose that SEIWA, the Square Enix -IWA, which Dragon Quest Wiki is part of, affiliate with NIWA. I am surprise this hasn't happened already.
Joining and affiliating are two different things. SEIWA would affiliate only. DQ Wiki could join because it is now a Nintendo-only franchise.
Dragon Quest is not a Nintendo-only franchise. If it is, I will be disappointed. Nevertheless, Dragon Quest is not a Nintendo-owned franchise.
Vzing, did you read the previous page in this thread?
*panic*
Fine. So why hasn't the affiliation happen yet?
:D
Quote from: Vzing on December 10, 2011, 07:48:30 PM
*panic*
Fine. So why hasn't the affiliation happen yet?
:D
I am working on it. :p
Since it looks like you guys are taking slightly looser requirements on affiliation now (at least for your sidebar!) and I always wince a bit when I see the suggestions here to work with the Wikia versions or what have you:
http://info.sonicretro.org
http://segaretro.org
Note that for our corner of fandom it doesn't make as much sense to have child wikis, so we just have the two major ones.
Quote from: Scarred Sun on October 19, 2014, 08:40:54 PM
Since it looks like you guys are taking slightly looser requirements on affiliation now (at least for your sidebar!) and I always wince a bit when I see the suggestions here to work with the Wikia versions or what have you:
http://info.sonicretro.org
http://segaretro.org
Note that for our corner of fandom it doesn't make as much sense to have child wikis, so we just have the two major ones.
Why do you think that, may I ask? I get what you're saying with Wikia; that may cause trouble, but I think any independent wiki of good quality may be affiliates if they ask. It promotes the idea of healthy wiki development.
SonicRetro and SegaRetro are nice, but I am concerned about their hosting of emulators, editors, and game software.
Hi guys. Quasar from the independent Doom Wiki at http://doomwiki.org (http://doomwiki.org) here. I had been in a conversation with your coordinator about getting affiliate status going and was told a couple weeks ago that everything was go, but since that point I've received no further communication despite sending a couple emails. We added some new links to the site (we had one already on our WikiNode, where we do our best to support the whole independent wiki scene) but I now have users questioning whether or not those should stay there and have to provide answers for them soon.
I'm personally in favor of as many sites like ours working together as possible. We're engaged in an uphill and seemingly losing battle for web rank against the wikia site that we forked our content from originally. We've had to deal with plagiarism, server and domain name configuration issues, hackers, you name it.
Let me know at least on what kind of time table I can expect for reciprocation on your affiliates link list, if you could. If the thing's been called off for some reason, I need to know that as well.
It appears that you successfully reminded staff about your affiliation, as you are now listed in the affiliates section, and our twitter account has made a post (https://twitter.com/NIWANetwork/status/541132646676701184) on it.
Thanks to everybody involved, we appreciate it.
I got a great request. The Cutting Room Floor. They have tons of content about unused content from games. They also have things from other Nintendo games. It can be similar to how we have Strategy Wiki as a Member of the NIWA. The same can be applied to TCRF.
Hard Drop Tetris Wiki also has content from non-Nintendo games, so I don't think TCRF would be much of an issue in that respect. That being said, they do host many prototype ROMs (and them taking down those files/links isn't something that will probably happen readily), which is I believe one of the big points that came up last time TCRF was discussed.
That being said, I can ask most of the staff of TCRF if they'd be interested if we decide to go with it, as I am in almost all of their staff groups already :P
I've spent a good while browsing this wiki, and I really like it. Some of the writing is written in a very personal-opinions kind of way, but every wiki has its flaws. This would also be the closest thing to an Inazuma Eleven Wiki within NIWA besides N-Wiki, so I'd love for us to get in contact. Full support from me.
According to the editing guidelines, humour is welcomed in articles, as long as it doesn't become the sole reason for an edit, nor is offensive. That being said, opinion *should* be generally be avoided, but personable writing is fine.
Been a fan/editor of the wiki for a year or so, been a part of its community for some five years now. I'd be fine for them to join, but no biggie if it doesn't happen.
I will agree that TCRF will make a great addition to the NIWA.
I got another request. Inkipedia (SplatoonWiki). It's a Wiki about Splatoon.
http://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
I think SplatoonWiki is a good candidate!
I got another great request. ARMS Institute. It's an ARMS wiki.
https://arms.institute/wiki/Home (https://arms.institute/wiki/Home)