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NIWA Discussion / Re: Donkey Kong Wiki problem
« on: November 16, 2010, 06:22:03 AM »This is a simple thing to settle. When you get right down to the basics, Mario Wiki views the Donkey Kong content as a spin-off while Donkey Kong views it as the base, and views the Mario sports titles as cross-overs. This is my problem with Donkey Kong Wiki (one that is getting much better with DKCR), it should view the Donkey Kong series as its own entity, because that's what it is. The world of Donkey Kong Country is a vibrant world that tries to immerse you in it's environments. It has a real life nature feel to it, which is completely different from Mario which has smiling clouds and magic mushrooms.
They are fundamentally different universes that stem from the same game, Donkey Kong.
Donkey Kong split off into two spin-offs, Donkey Kong Jr. and Mario Bros.
Mario Bros. set up Mario and Luigi as well as the more run and jump gameplay, from there Super Mario Bros. came out and gave Mario his own universe to live in.
Donkey Kong Jr. set up Donkey Kong as an adventurer going through the Jungle, collecting bananas and climbing vines, from there Donkey Kong Country came out and gave Donkey Kong his own universe to live in.
Mario Wiki should treat everything as a spin-off of the Mario series that went,
Donkey Kong -> Mario Bros. -> Super Mario Bros. -> everything we know and love
While Donkey Kong Wiki should treat everything as a spin-off of the Donkey Kong series that went,
Donkey Kong -> Donkey Kong Jr. -> Donkey Kong Country -> everything we know and love
Articles like "Mario Hoops 3-on-3" should distinguish the Kong elements from the rest of the game, and take particular notice of those elements. As well as offering a look at the game from a Donkey Kong fan's perspective. I bought many s***ty Mario spin-offs just for Donkey Kong's appearance and it would be nice to have a wiki look at those games the same way I did growing up and still to this day. For example, write about how "DK Pass" is probably located on Gorilla Glacier or some stuff like that.
Here's a better example, Mario Wiki says that DK Island is in Mushroom World, in Mushroom Galaxy, etc. In most of the Donkey Kong games, there are many allusions to our own planet earth, and virtually none to a Mushroom World. This is because Mario Wiki views DK as a spin-off. A Donkey Kong Wiki would write that DK Island is probably located on our own planet earth off the coast of Africa as that is what is suggested at most times (hell, in DK Jungle Climber you can see the planet and the continents off earth)/
There's my two cents.
Well said, the only problem is that Mario and Donkey Kong stil appear all the time together in spin offs and Mario vs. Donkey Kong was just released. So they are still sort of the same series. I also don't know why the Mario wiki has articles about Link and Kirby, they are hardly ever together and yet they get there own article, all the SSB characters and DK should just link the person to the NIWA that is more specific about that person.