Using Google Reader, here are some NIWA stats. Note that these are taken from the recent changes feeds of each wiki and are bound to have differences, config settings, etc that skew the data.
Site | Changes per week | Percentage of total |
Bulbapedia | 4117.4 | 36.43% |
Mario | 3354.4 | 29.68% |
Zelda | 1677.7 | 14.84% |
Smash Wiki | 833.5 | 7.37% |
Strategy | 500.7 | 4.43% |
WikiBound | 178.3 | 1.58% |
Metroid | 145.8 | 1.29% |
Nookipedia | 96.9 | 0.86% |
WiKirby | 78.2 | 0.69% |
Golden Sun | 62.8 | 0.56% |
Pikmin Fanon | 56.9 | 0.50% |
Fire Emblem | 46.9 | 0.41% |
Nintendo | 46.2 | 0.41% |
Pikipedia | 31 | 0.27% |
Donkey Kong | 28.9 | 0.26% |
Starfy | 24.7 | 0.22% |
Lylat | 13.5 | 0.12% |
Wars Wiki | 9.8 | 0.09% |
NIWA Total | 11303.6 | 100.00% |
....Wow. Hey Bulbapedia! Spare some users?
I am saddened. However, this is not surprising.
Interesting stats! :) I should write a script that will compile a report like this each week and generate some graphs. It would be interesting to see how new game releases affect the wikis.
Notice how the top 5 are the ones that spun off from Wikia and not made from other NIWA users, and all below are for the most part.
Yeah, Google doesn't keep stats for feeds which are not followed by someone in Google Reader. So a little over a week ago I added all of the feeds and this is the result. The values will obviously normalize the longer that the feeds are followed, but writing a script to do it manually would certainly be much more accurate.
Edit: Also, you would need to make the script run multiple times daily. The $wgFeedLimit is by default set to 50, so you would need to visit often to not miss updates. Bulbapedia typically has over 500 a day.
Wiki Name | Average Posts Per Week | Percentage | Change |
Bulbapedia | 4069.1 | 34.80% | -1.17% |
Donkey Kong | 18 | 0.15% | -37.72% |
Fire Emblem | 135.3 | 1.16% | +188.49% |
Golden Sun | 83.3 | 0.71% | +32.64% |
Lylat Wiki | 18 | 0.15% | +33.33% |
Mario | 3658 | 31.29% | +9.05% |
Metroid | 237.3 | 2.03% | +62.76% |
Nintendo | 39.2 | 0.34% | -15.15% |
Nookipedia | 126 | 1.08% | +30.03% |
Pikmin | 48.8 | 0.42% | +57.42% |
Pikmin Fanon | 76.1 | 0.65% | +33.74% |
Smash Wiki | 863.8 | 7.39% | +3.64% |
Starfy | 15.2 | 0.13% | -38.46% |
Strategy Wiki | 546.9 | 4.68% | +9.23% |
Wars | 6.1 | 0.05% | -37.76% |
Wikibound | 171 | 1.46% | -4.09% |
WiKirby | 56.2 | 0.48% | -28.13% |
Zelda | 1523.4 | 13.03% | -9.20% |
Total | 11691.7 | 100.00% | +3.43% |
Date | 11/28/2011 | |
Edit: Made easier to read, added % of change from last update.
Well, Lylat improved in amount edited, just not place.
Edit: 0.15%! WOO!
Same with Golden Sun :D
Wiki Name | Average Posts Per Week | Percentage | Change |
Bulbapedia | 2999 | 31.26% | -26.30% |
Donkey Kong | 61.1 | 0.64% | +239.44% |
Fire Emblem | 221 | 1.89% | +63.34% |
Golden Sun | 76.3 | 0.80% | -8.40% |
Lylat Wiki | 26.1 | 0.27% | +45.00% |
Mario | 3185.9 | 33.20% | -12.91% |
Metroid | 80.3 | 0.84% | -66.16% |
Nintendo | 8.2 | 0.09% | -79.08% |
Nookipedia | 82.1 | 0.86% | -34.84% |
Pikmin | 44.3 | 0.46% | -9.22% |
Pikmin Fanon | 102.4 | 1.07% | +34.56% |
Smash Wiki | 984 | 10.26% | +13.92% |
Starfy | 130 | 1.35% | +755.26% |
Strategy Wiki | 626.5 | 6.53% | +14.55% |
Wars | 10.3 | 0.11% | +68.85% |
Wikibound | 62.8 | 0.65% | -63.27% |
WiKirby | 17.7 | 0.18% | -68.51% |
Zelda | 877.1 | 9.14% | -42.42% |
Total | 9595.1 | 100.00% | -17.93% |
Date | 12/27/2011 | | |
Go Fire Emblem Wiki!!! :D
Wiki Name | Average Posts Per Week | Percentage | Change |
Bulbapedia | 3187.3 | 33.22% | +6.28% |
Donkey Kong | 34.5 | 0.36% | -43.54% |
Fire Emblem | 376.1 | 3.22% | +70.18% |
Golden Sun | 43.2 | 0.45% | -43.38% |
Lylat Wiki | 22.4 | 0.23% | -14.18% |
Mario | 3002.5 | 31.29% | -5.76% |
Metroid | 101.5 | 1.06% | +26.40% |
Nintendo | 46 | 0.48% | +460.98% |
Nookipedia | 217.7 | 2.27% | +165.16% |
Pikmin | 28.9 | 0.30% | -34.76% |
Pikmin Fanon | 59.7 | 0.62% | -41.70% |
Smash Wiki | 1170.6 | 12.20% | +18.96% |
Starfy | 119.9 | 1.25% | -7.77% |
Strategy Wiki | 649.6 | 6.77% | +3.69% |
Wars | 18.4 | 0.19% | +78.64% |
Wikibound | 172.4 | 1.80% | +174.52% |
WiKirby | 175.9 | 1.83% | +893.79% |
Zelda | 1451.1 | 15.12% | +65.44% |
Total | 10877.7 | 100.00% | +13.37% |
Date | 1/27/2012 | | |
Editing was up this month overall.
Wiki Name | Average Posts Per Week | Percentage | Change |
Bulbapedia | 4428.7 | 39.75% | +38.95% |
Donkey Kong | 146.1 | 1.31% | +323.48% |
Fire Emblem | 240.6 | 2.16% | -36.03% |
Golden Sun | 74.2 | 0.67% | +71.76% |
Lylat Wiki | 3.5 | 0.03% | -84.38% |
Mario | 2595.4 | 23.30% | -13.56% |
Metroid | 196.9 | 1.77% | +93.99% |
Nintendo | 39 | 0.35% | -15.22% |
Nookipedia | 70.5 | 0.63% | -67.62% |
Pikmin | 62.8 | 0.56% | +117.30% |
Pikmin Fanon | 50.2 | 0.45% | -15.91% |
Smash Wiki | 1136.8 | 10.20% | -2.89% |
Starfy | 367.7 | 3.30% | +206.67% |
Strategy Wiki | 535 | 4.80% | -17.64% |
Wars | 51.6 | 0.46% | +180.43% |
Wikibound | 75.4 | 0.68% | -56.26% |
WiKirby | 61.8 | 0.55% | -64.87% |
Zelda | 1005.2 | 9.02% | -30.73% |
Total | 11141.4 | 100.00% | +2.42% |
Date | 3/13/2012 |
Starfy Wiki is in the top 5? Woah. Poor Lylat Wiki... D:
Nope, 6th.
Didnt see Strategy Wiki there :3 Still, that's pretty high :p
Some of the SEIWA wikis posted low numbers this time as well. That is what happens on small wikis when the few dedicated editors take a break.
In the future I'm going to add a "average posts per wiki" metric. This will be the total number of posts for all of NIWA, divided by the number of wikis in NIWA. This will be a good measure over time of how well NIWA as a whole is doing.
Hopefully the other NIWA Wikis become more active :(
This is pretty cool! I wish I'd seen this before.
We should see about finding out how many editors there are at each Wiki, see how many users NIWA "has" overall?
Things are looking good for us, though, it seems. :)
That would definitely be a cool stat to see. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I am just using Google Reader to pull the info for each of the feeds. To get the number of editors, we would need to write our own software most likely. It would need to run every hour or so (maybe a cron) and check each feed and compile the information.
What would "editors" include? All registered users or only those with some sort of activity? Just wondering, as there's an "Active users" page with "users who had some kind of activity within the last 91 days" among the special pages. Counting these manually, WiKirby currently has 55, if anyone cares.
(I'm probably completely missing something here, so I apologise for my childish ignorance.)
Active users sounds like a good measure of the number of editors. You can easily grab it from the MediaWiki API. For example, you can get the general statistics, including active users, for Pikipedia, at:
http://www.pikminwiki.com/api.php?format=json&action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics
You can fetch and parse this for active users fairly easily - for example, in JavaScript for non-IE:
var api = 'http://www.pikminwiki.com/api.php';
var r = new XMLHttpRequest();
r.open('GET', api + '?format=json&action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics', false);
r.send(null);
alert(JSON.parse(r.responseText).query.statistics.activeusers);
Or in Python 3:
from urllib.request import urlopen
from json import loads
api = 'http://www.pikminwiki.com/api.php'
print(loads(urlopen(api + '?format=json&action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics').read().decode())['query']['statistics']['activeusers'])
I was thinking just registered members, but active users is probably much better!
Edit: Btw, Zelda Wiki caps it off at 30 days, so there needs to be some consistency between Wikis if we're to use this a valid, uniform stat, but anyway, within the last 30 days, 121 people have edited ZW. :)
Also, another fun stat to compile could be the total article count of all of NIWA. :)
Pretty sure it's 30 days at every wiki.
Quote from: Greenpickle on March 25, 2012, 06:51:43 PM
Pretty sure it's 30 days at every wiki.
Quote from: Vellidragon on March 22, 2012, 06:48:56 PM
"users who had some kind of activity within the last 91 days"
That's an exact quote from the Active Users page on WiKirby (http://wikirby.com/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers), so evidently, it's not 30 days everywhere.
EDIT: Just checked random wikis, and Wars Wiki, for instance, also has 91 days. There's definitely wikis with 30 as well, though.
EDIT2: Lylat Wiki and Starfy Wiki also have 91 days. The rest all seem to have 30, unless I forgot one.
Hmm, okay. Interesting...
Looks like it should be controlled by $wgActiveUserDays (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgActiveUserDays). 30 is the default. Not sure why it would be set to 91 for any wiki, weird.
Quote from: FlyingRagnar on March 27, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
Looks like it should be controlled by $wgActiveUserDays (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgActiveUserDays). 30 is the default. Not sure why it would be set to 91 for any wiki, weird.
Older versions of MediaWiki.
Yeah that's what I figured, but looking at the history of the article, it never lists a value different than 30. Probably undocumented in earlier versions or something.
http://pastebin.com/Ww6MmvPR
Here is a python script I threw together based on Greenpickle's suggestion above. It grabs various statistics from each wiki and puts it into a very basic html table. A couple things...
1) Can one of you with better web hosting put this on a cron? My hosting only has python 2.4 which does not support the JSON library (2.6+).
2) I could not find the api.php for the Wars Wiki. Seems like it should be http://www.warswiki.warscentral.com/api.php. So that wiki is currently missing.
The script does not do any sort of error handling at all. The value for active users it spit out for me (minus Wars wiki) was 1893!
For (1), since you're fetching from trusted sources, and you're quite sure the output will be valid JSON, you can just eval() it.
Quite important: you're fetching and parsing the page for every category, but you only need to do it once per wiki. This obviously makes it run about 6 times as fast.
As for errors, if you weren't sure, urlopen gives IOError when the page is dead (or maybe it does so on .read()), and the API will give errors in the returned data structure (in the 'error' key, I think?). Checking a page is valid JSON kind of conflicts with what I said for (1), so maybe you could have a hack like checking for fetched_string.startswith('{"query":') ?
(...And I'm struggling to refrain from complaining about your HTML - I'm telling myself it doesn't matter.)
Edit: looking at the difference between this table each month might be a better way of getting the monthly edits, too.
Haha, you are so critical. :) This was just 10 minutes of work, and I never write Python. Feel free to make some quick changes and post an updated script. I didn't work on it longer because I figured out that my hosting doesn't have Python 2.6+, so I kinda quit then.
I will work on it again when I have some time.
Hey, the only point of criticism was the bit about only fetching once per wiki, and that's pretty important; the rest were just general thoughts.
Oh yeah, I totally understand. I'm thinking the cron would only run once a day, more than that and the stats probably aren't more meaningful. So even if it was a slow process, it wouldn't matter much. Of course, things are still thrown off by the fact that some wikis have 91 days for active users and others 30. There are probably other config settings that skew the values.
NIWA Statistics |
Wiki Name | Articles | Edits | Media | Users | Active Users | Admins |
Pikipedia | 597 | 37422 | 1737 | 318 | 8 | 9 |
Bulbapedia | 21159 | 1647133 | 0 | 62442 | 832 | 9 |
Donkey Kong Wiki | 900 | 11664 | 2334 | 465 | 14 | 5 |
Fire Emblem Wiki | 872 | 23738 | 6402 | 237 | 15 | 7 |
F-Zero Wiki | 218 | 9435 | 332 | 58 | 16 | 8 |
Golden Sun Universe | 1421 | 50293 | 4014 | 855 | 12 | 5 |
Icaruspedia | 271 | 4968 | 620 | 112 | 56 | 6 |
Lylat Wiki | 164 | 38914 | 1050 | 269 | 16 | 11 |
Metroid Wiki | 1521 | 41021 | 2682 | 1813 | 17 | 10 |
Nintendo Wiki | 518 | 14010 | 611 | 302 | 8 | 9 |
Nookipedia | 1355 | 28669 | 3961 | 1237 | 34 | 10 |
Pikmin Fanon Wiki | 1647 | 26338 | 1804 | 231 | 14 | 7 |
Smash Wiki | 2068 | 105067 | 5983 | 1194 | 88 | 9 |
Starfy Wiki | 725 | 13535 | 1577 | 92 | 12 | 7 |
Strategy Wiki | 23559 | 598018 | 80586 | 60008 | 78 | 32 |
Mario Wiki | 12121 | 1272908 | 36407 | 23348 | 489 | 12 |
Wikibound | 977 | 20181 | 2415 | 569 | 13 | 4 |
Wikirby | 740 | 19385 | 2175 | 668 | 45 | 4 |
Zelda Wiki | 3629 | 301538 | 13834 | 9763 | 121 | 17 |
Dragon Quest Wiki | 2657 | 29724 | 4937 | 287 | 15 | 3 |
Totals | 77119 | 4293961 | 173461 | 164268 | 1903 | 184 |
2012-04-03 12:40:03.384798 |
Not sure why Bulbapedia has no media/images. Maybe because they are using a customized storage system for their files?
Bulbagarden and Bulbapedia use Bulbagarden Archives (http://archives.bulbagarden.net) for media storage for the entire site instead, similar to Wikimedia and the Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org).
Metroid Wiki had a fairly good month compared to what activity has been like lately. Of those 17 active users, three were admins, and most of the rest were people that edited once or twice and then didn't edit anymore, tho.
Are you still going to be gathering data for the number of edits per week?
Wiki Name | Average Posts Per Week | Percentage | Change |
Bulbapedia | 4342.3 | 36.83% | -1.95% |
Donkey Kong Wiki | 111.5 | 0.95% | -23.68% |
Dragon Quest Wiki | 38.5 | 0.33% | |
Fire Emblem Wiki | 371.9 | 3.15% | +54.57% |
F-Zero Wiki | 94 | 0.80% | |
Golden Sun Universe | 76.8 | 0.65% | +3.50% |
Icaruspedia | 226.6 | 1.92% | |
Lylat Wiki | 8.4 | 0.07% | +140.00% |
Mario Wiki | 2806.3 | 23.80% | +8.13% |
Metroid Wiki | 190.9 | 1.62% | -3.05% |
Nintendo Wiki | 47.1 | 0.40% | +20.77% |
Nookipedia | 60.9 | 0.52% | -13.62% |
Pikipedia | 69.3 | 0.59% | +10.35% |
Pikmin Fanon | 49 | 0.42% | -2.39% |
SmashWiki | 1165 | 9.88% | +2.48% |
Starfy Wiki | 474.4 | 4.02% | +29.02% |
StrategyWiki | 765.3 | 6.49% | +43.05% |
Wars Wiki | 71.6 | 0.61% | +38.76% |
Wikibound | 102.2 | 0.87% | +35.54% |
WiKirby | 40.1 | 0.34% | -35.11% |
Zelda Wiki | 678.1 | 5.75% | -32.54% |
Total | 11790.2 | 100.00% | +5.82% |
Avg Posts Per Week | 561.4380952 | | -9.29% |
Date | 4/3/2012 | | |
Here, have some graphs:
(http://i.imgur.com/lEX3S.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/x5kS8.png)
lol it speaks to the size of those franchises that those wikis are so huge. :P
Yay.
Probably not the best measure of Bulbapedia's admins. I assume it only counts users in the sysop group (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=&group=sysop&limit=50), which is just the Administrator rank (see here (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Staff) for BP's staff structure).
Unfortunately, I don't see a better way to do it. Is there some way (perhaps just by giving all staff usergroups a "staff member" user right that has no other purpose than as a flag) that this could be worked around?
I wouldn't worry much about it. That is probably the least important stat listed for all the wikis. I really just listed it because it was there and I could.
I was speaking more to users and articles/edits in general, anyway.
Wiki Name | Average Posts Per Week | Percentage | Change |
Bulbapedia | 4578.7 | 36.97% | +5.44% |
Donkey Kong Wiki | 130.9 | 1.06% | +17.40% |
Dragon Quest Wiki | 61.6 | 0.50% | +60.00% |
Fire Emblem Wiki | 505.2 | 4.08% | +35.84% |
F-Zero Wiki | 60.4 | 0.49% | -35.74% |
Golden Sun Universe | 171.3 | 1.38% | +123.05% |
Icaruspedia | 397.4 | 3.21% | +75.38% |
Lylat Wiki | 12.8 | 0.10% | +52.38% |
Mario Wiki | 3143.2 | 25.38% | +12.01% |
Metroid Wiki | 139.5 | 1.13% | -26.93% |
Nintendo Wiki | 18.2 | 0.15% | -61.36% |
Nookipedia | 75.1 | 0.61% | +23.32% |
Pikipedia | 45.7 | 0.37% | -34.05% |
Pikmin Fanon | 85.9 | 0.69% | +75.31% |
SmashWiki | 968.3 | 7.82% | -16.88% |
Starfy Wiki | 300.3 | 2.42% | -36.70% |
StrategyWiki | 771.2 | 6.23% | +0.77% |
Wars Wiki | 61.4 | 0.50% | -14.25% |
Wikibound | 34.3 | 0.28% | -66.44% |
WiKirby | 59 | 0.48% | +47.13% |
Zelda Wiki | 765.3 | 6.18% | +12.86% |
Total | 12385.7 | 100.00% | +5.05% |
Avg NIWA Posts Per Week | 589.7952381 | | +5.05% |
Date | 5/1/2012 | | |
Quote from: TurtwigA on November 09, 2011, 03:24:28 AM
Notice how the top 5 are the ones that spun off from Wikia and not made from other NIWA users, and all below are for the most part.
I know this is extremely late but that's incorrect only one of the top 5 were spun off from Wikia the other 4 were created prior to NIWA
For next week's update, can you also include statistics about the forum relative to the wikis? I am looking forward to that. ty