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NIWA Community => NIWA Discussion => Membership and Affiliate Requests => Topic started by: ganondox on March 04, 2010, 11:35:59 PM
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There are a lot of non-Nintendo independent gaming wikis out there. Even though though they are non-Nintendo and there for cannot join this alliance we should still try to form some sort of alliance with them. (Alliance of independent wiki alliances?)
Ps. Add a link smiley.
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That defeats one of the purposes of NIWA, while there are series that are subject to debate, most, like Sonic, can't join, since this alliance is for Nintendo series.
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Yeah, we wont go affiliating with a Halo wiki. (Did you know the founder of halo wiki co-founded the SMW?)
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Yeah, we wont go affiliating with a Halo wiki. (Did you know the founder of halo wiki co-founded the SMW?)
Name please?
That's a nice little fun fact.
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Yeah, we wont go affiliating with a Halo wiki. (Did you know the founder of halo wiki co-founded the SMW?)
Name please?
That's a nice little fun fact.
agent seethroo
http://userpedia.adriels.com/AgentSeethroo
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form other alliances that focus on meta-franchises and companies, like:
- Shonen Jump
- DC Comics
- Sega
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form other alliances that focus on meta-franchises and companies, like:
- Shonen Jump
- DC Comics
- Sega
AFAIK the first 2 are not focused on videogames
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I can't believe no one's already mentioned the Transformers wiki yet, given their famous break from Wikia.
While we may make a larger, more encompassing alliance in the future, in the short-to-medium term that won't be happening. Let's get this all perfected with the Nintendo franchise wikis first.
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Couldn't the Sonic the Hedgehog Wiki (If there is one that isn't one of those wikias) also be here?? Sonic and a few of the other characters appeared in Super Smash Bros & Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games.
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Once again, Sonic the Hedgehog is not from Nintendo, he is from Sega. Such games featuring him were licensed by Nintendo. If anything, he would be mentioned on the Super Smash Brothers Wiki, or something. ...And the NIWA don't need several wikis which cover the same characters.
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To add to the previous post:
Sonic does appear in those games, but that doesn't make the rest of the sonic universe(s) a nintendo franchise.
in order to be a nintendo franchise, you need at least some of the following points:
* The franchise needs to be owned by nintendo, or one of it first- or second-party associates
* The development team of each game in the series needs at least some input from the seniors at
* Each game needs it's premium release on a Nintendo console, usually because of a Exclusivity clause in a contract that is somehow related. This doesn't apply to minor ports
(it varies from franchise to franchise which criteria is met)
For instance:
* Pokemon - developed by Game Freak, published by Nintendo and realease only on Nintendo Consoles
* Mega Man - developed and published by Capcom, initially developed only for Nintendo games, it is no long a "Nintendo Franchise" once it was published on a Playstation.
* Sonic - developed and published by Sega, now showing up in all three current-gen systems. Sonic shows up in side games, such as Olympic Titles, and Smash bros because Nintendo worked out a deal with Sega and because Both companies new that Mario-vs-Sonic is one of the biggest rivalries in gaming and therefore would be something the fans would like.
* Ace Attorney - developed by Capcom, published by Capcom and Nintendo Austrailia, only realeased on Nintendo Console, except for the minor iPhone ports which didn't add much to the story.
* Mario - developed and published by nintendo, released only Nintendo-systems since the mid-nineties
* Zelda - same as Mario
Even though many of these franchises have involved 3rd party companies (Snake from Konami being in smash bros, Link being in Soul Caliber 2) the franchise is usually associated as a whole with nintendo.
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Tacopill summed up everything perfectly
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Tacopill summed up everything perfectly
thank you very much.
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To add to the previous post:
Sonic does appear in those games, but that doesn't make the rest of the sonic universe(s) a nintendo franchise.
in order to be a nintendo franchise, you need at least some of the following points:
* The franchise needs to be owned by nintendo, or one of it first- or second-party associates
* The development team of each game in the series needs at least some input from the seniors at
* Each game needs it's premium release on a Nintendo console, usually because of a Exclusivity clause in a contract that is somehow related. This doesn't apply to minor ports
(it varies from franchise to franchise which criteria is met)
For instance:
* Pokemon - developed by Game Freak, published by Nintendo and realease only on Nintendo Consoles
* Mega Man - developed and published by Capcom, initially developed only for Nintendo games, it is no long a "Nintendo Franchise" once it was published on a Playstation.
* Sonic - developed and published by Sega, now showing up in all three current-gen systems. Sonic shows up in side games, such as Olympic Titles, and Smash bros because Nintendo worked out a deal with Sega and because Both companies new that Mario-vs-Sonic is one of the biggest rivalries in gaming and therefore would be something the fans would like.
* Ace Attorney - developed by Capcom, published by Capcom and Nintendo Austrailia, only realeased on Nintendo Console, except for the minor iPhone ports which didn't add much to the story.
* Mario - developed and published by nintendo, released only Nintendo-systems since the mid-nineties
* Zelda - same as Mario
Even though many of these franchises have involved 3rd party companies (Snake from Konami being in smash bros, Link being in Soul Caliber 2) the franchise is usually associated as a whole with nintendo.
So If a Pokemon game appeared on a PSP, then Bulbapedia can't be here anymore?
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That's a possibility, although would be a jerk move by Game Freak. It would mostly depend on how they made the game.
- Is it a Minor Port, Emulated ROM, or something similar? then no.
- Did Game Freak come out and Say "Pokemon is from now on PSP as well as Nintendo DS". then yes.
Although i would like to think the people at N.I.W.A. would allow them to stick around. ;D
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I can't believe no one's already mentioned the Transformers wiki yet, given their famous break from Wikia.
Let me know when the time comes, I can contact someone at the Transformers Wiki that has been an awesome editor at Zelda Wiki.org.
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I actually already contacted their owner to let them know what we were doing a while back. ^^;
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That's a possibility, although would be a jerk move by Game Freak. It would mostly depend on how they made the game.
- Is it a Minor Port, Emulated ROM, or something similar? then no.
- Did Game Freak come out and Say "Pokemon is from now on PSP as well as Nintendo DS". then yes.
Although i would like to think the people at N.I.W.A. would allow them to stick around. ;D
It's possible (Probably Game Freak wants more money)
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No, I have enough money! :P But anyways, that is the reason why Sonic is not part of the alliance, because he has appeared on non-Nintendo systems, which kills the whole purpose of the Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance. That would be kind of a low blow for Nintendo if they did that.
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Yup, and with that, I do believe that you got your answer [three-five times] of why Sonic is not going to be part of the NIWA. So, please stop asking onetwentysix.
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But when we start to extend beyond Nintendo, we will probably include Sonic and the rest of Sega-Franchises in one of the first few extensions.
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Who changed the thread title? [It was not me.]
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It was me
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It was me
why
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because, as I said, SONIC DOESN'T APPLY
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Link me to the Sonic Wiki in question. If I like 'em, I'll at least ask them to affiliate with WiKirby and share contact details. There's a chance the two wikis could be of assistance to one another.
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When I was initially reading about NIWA, my first thought was to include the Harvest Moon Wiki that I had been working on here or there. But I'm not sure if that will fly, while a majority of the games are on Nintendo systems, it's not an exclusive Nintendo property.
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Don't count it out Ghost Jam. NIWA's new and our aim right now is to strengthen our current position before branching out. I think we should get affiliated with as many independent wikis as possible. And in time, we may notice several 2nd Party title wikis, or console specific ones, etc and find a way to accommodate them.
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Yeah, an affiliation is never bad. Could you give us a link?
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If you guys ever do branch out, give us a holler over at Wikimon (http://wikimon.net). :) We'd love to join.
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I smell affiliate!
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If you guys ever do branch out, give us a holler over at Wikimon (http://wikimon.net). :) We'd love to join.
It's a very snazzy Wiki if you ask me. :D Affiliate Vote +1 for me.
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I smell affiliate!
You must have a very strong sense of smell. 8)
And thanks Remino52, Ainz does amazing with it.
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Yeah, love your main page... I'm going to borrow ideas from it eventually :D I just never thought to use the overflow/scrollbar on WiKirby's news portal. I'm not even sure how you guys made the ticker and little tabs in other portals. But I suspect a MW extension is involved.
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That is the <tabber> extension, right? MW hasn't got it :/ It would be useful. Userpedia has got it, tho
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MW= MediaWiki; SMW=Super Mario Wiki; and Meow= MEtrOid Wiki.... in my world anyway
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Dammit, I forget Media Wiki....
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Feel free to ask on our portal if you guys want to know how anything is done o/
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Will do, you guys realize you lack a working favicon? Nothing major, just pointing out the one flaw on an epic main page.
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Huh, we used to have one... weirdness.
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RULE OF SMASH APPLIES: If it's in a Smash Bros. game then it's part of Nintendo, unless it's a special guest character. (Sonic/Snake)
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RULE OF SMASH APPLIES: If it's in a Smash Bros. game then it's part of Nintendo, unless it's a special guest character. (Sonic/Snake)
um ok...
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RULE OF SMASH APPLIES: If it's in a Smash Bros. game then it's part of Nintendo, unless it's a special guest character. (Sonic/Snake)
That doesn't make much sense in ways. A special guest character isn't exactly a special guest because they're probably going to be in more games. I heard somewhere that Snake could've been in Melee because its creator tried to put him into it. That would've meant that the Metal Gear series is a Nintendo one, even though none of their games are on their consoles.
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RULE OF SMASH APPLIES: If it's in a Smash Bros. game then it's part of Nintendo, unless it's a special guest character. (Sonic/Snake)
It's a fair guideline, but it has its flaws. The biggest one being that the last Smash Bros. Game was released almost three years ago, and Nintendo has been as active as ever since then, even with new IPs like FlingSmash.
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That doesn't make much sense in ways. A special guest character isn't exactly a special guest because they're probably going to be in more games. I heard somewhere that Snake could've been in Melee because its creator tried to put him into it. That would've meant that the Metal Gear series is a Nintendo one, even though none of their games are on their consoles.
It's true. Hideo Kojima, The creator of Metal Gear and the Head guy at HAL Labotory (and creator of Kirby), Masahiro Sakurai, are good friends, and when Kojima heard of smash bros. Melee, he almost begged Sakurai for Snake's inclusion.
However, they were too far along in Melee's develpoment in order to add him.
It's a fair guideline, but it has its flaws. The biggest one being that the last Smash Bros. Game was released almost three years ago, and Nintendo has been as active as ever since then, even with new IPs like FlingSmash.
What is FlingSmash?
Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlingSmash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlingSmash) This might help for learning about what it is.
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I agree with most of that post. Not that my opinion means a whole lot here, but I don't know that I would have ever considered Mega Man a Nintendo franchise. In my eyes, it's always been Capcom's franchise.
Just because a series has always been published on Nintendo systems doesn't make it a Nintendo series, from my perspective. Most video game publishers don't make their own systems.
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I agree with most of that post. Not that my opinion means a whole lot here, but I don't know that I would have ever considered Mega Man a Nintendo franchise. In my eyes, it's always been Capcom's franchise.
Just because a series has always been published on Nintendo systems doesn't make it a Nintendo series, from my perspective. Most video game publishers don't make their own systems.
Under that logic not even Ace Attorney should be considered to be part. It all boils down to what the goals and focus of NIWA is, will they consider only first and second party game? Third party games that only appear in Nintendo Consoles? Third party games that are part of bigger franchises in more than one console?
Either way I still like the idea of NIWA and support it, I just would like to know how to help other than editing around the Wikis.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlingSmash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlingSmash) This might help for learning about what it is.
Thanks, but it doesn't give me much. It looks like the Smash Ball from Brawl now has it's own game.
Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I agree with most of that post. Not that my opinion means a whole lot here, but I don't know that I would have ever considered Mega Man a Nintendo franchise. In my eyes, it's always been Capcom's franchise.
Just because a series has always been published on Nintendo systems doesn't make it a Nintendo series, from my perspective. Most video game publishers don't make their own systems.
Everyone's opinion matters, but each opinion carries different amount of wait for different people. It can vary based on
- the amount of time you have been here
- how useful your contributions have been to a person who is looking
- your contributions to the wiki's, both in terms of quality and quantity
- etc.
Anyway, i consider Mega Man both a Capcom Franchise and a Nintendo (with Capcom taking precedence, because, you know, they own the franchise). But i was steamed when i found out Mega Man left Nintendo to be a PlayStation exclusive. Just as i was overjoyed when Battle Network Came out, b/c it was a Nintendo Exclusive franchise.
Now-a-days, i think server-exclusiveness is a dated idea, but that is a topic for another thread.
Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I agree with most of that post. Not that my opinion means a whole lot here, but I don't know that I would have ever considered Mega Man a Nintendo franchise. In my eyes, it's always been Capcom's franchise.
Just because a series has always been published on Nintendo systems doesn't make it a Nintendo series, from my perspective. Most video game publishers don't make their own systems.
Under that logic not even Ace Attorney should be considered to be part. It all boils down to what the goals and focus of NIWA is, will they consider only first and second party game? Third party games that only appear in Nintendo Consoles? Third party games that are part of bigger franchises in more than one console?
Either way I still like the idea of NIWA and support it, I just would like to know how to help other than editing around the Wikis.
Ace Attorney has heavy influence from Nintendo, and i think the general public see it as a nintendo franchise more than a capcom one.
Other than helping out wikis, what other skill do you have? for instance, are you good with web design, forum adminship or public relations?
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Archaic says Ace Attorney is published by Nintendo in Australia.
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I agree with most of that post. Not that my opinion means a whole lot here, but I don't know that I would have ever considered Mega Man a Nintendo franchise. In my eyes, it's always been Capcom's franchise.
Just because a series has always been published on Nintendo systems doesn't make it a Nintendo series, from my perspective. Most video game publishers don't make their own systems.
Everyone's opinion matters, but each opinion carries different amount of wait for different people. It can vary based on
- the amount of time you have been here
- how useful your contributions have been to a person who is looking
- your contributions to the wiki's, both in terms of quality and quantity
- etc.
So... Not that much, at least for now. :-\
Archaic says Ace Attorney is published by Nintendo in Australia.
As is Baten Kaitos, I think. Those two franchises are in similar situations.
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Nintendo also publishes Trauma Center in some regions.
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I would think we're are more open if we allow series that Nintendo has published (ie says Nintendo at the bottom right of the box) at least one game in at least one region. By being more open and still within the confines of the organization, we could bring in more development, editors, etc.
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I would think we're are more open if we allow series that Nintendo has published (ie says Nintendo at the bottom right of the box) at least one game in at least one region. By being more open and still within the confines of the organization, we could bring in more development, editors, etc.
That may be a little too loose of a policy. Under that policy, all of the following would qualify: Dragon Quest, Mana, Final Fantasy, Harvest Moon, Bionic Commando, Zack & Wiki, Viewtiful Joe, and Resident Evil.
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So... Not that much, at least for now. :-\
For now, yes. But stick around, help out the wikis, contribute to forums, and you will get there. It is something to shoot for.
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So... Not that much, at least for now. :-\
For now, yes. But stick around, help out the wikis, contribute to forums, and you will get there. It is something to shoot for.
True. I'm just trying to rush things too much. I'll get there.
I would think we're are more open if we allow series that Nintendo has published (ie says Nintendo at the bottom right of the box) at least one game in at least one region. By being more open and still within the confines of the organization, we could bring in more development, editors, etc.
That may be a little too loose of a policy. Under that policy, all of the following would qualify: Dragon Quest, Mana, Final Fantasy, Harvest Moon, Bionic Commando, Zack & Wiki, Viewtiful Joe, and Resident Evil.
If I may, being published by Nintendo in Japan is a pretty big indicator that a series belongs to Nintendo.
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Would the Prof. Layton series apply? It's published by Level-5 in Japan and by Nintendo outside of Japan.
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The way i see it, and anyone can prove me wrong if they choose, on whether or not a franchise applies, is this:
Question: a) Is the spider-man movie trilogy a "Marvel Movie" or a "Columbia/Tristar Pictures Movie"? How about the X-Men movies, "Marvel" or "20th Century Fox"?
With this question, i would go with the second option, because 1) the second company owns the movie rights to the franchises, and, more importantly, 2) Being owned by that company allows for a certain amount of brand-recognition and age-appropriate material. (For example, if the x-men movies were released by Columbia/Tristar, do you think wolverine would of been allowed to curse with his claws?)
Problem is, with a set up like that, some of the "Marvel-ness" is lost, and a movie cross-over between X-Men and Spider-man would be a legal nightmare, especially with Marvel now being owned Disney. :'(
On the other hand, look at DC. They are 100% owned by Warner Bros. Any Animation, Movies, TV Shows, etc. will be linked by to them. *random fan bursts* Smallville - Dark Knight crossover! :eekdance: *random fan bursts*.
B) Is a film release by "Touchstone Pictures" or even "Miramax" considered a Disney film?
I would say no, simply because of brand-recognition. the purpose of "Touchstone Pictures" is to be a separate brand then Disney, that way the company can release films without ruining its Family-Friendly image. :angel:
Other questions you could ask:
C) Is "Bleach" (Anime), considered a "Shoen Jump" (Manga Magazine) or a "Viz Media" (External/Subbing/Dubbing rights) anime? (They also do Graphic novels and the NA distribution of Shoen Jump, but that's besides the point)
D) Is "Halo" considered a "Bungie" or a "Microsoft" Brand?
E) is "YouTube" considered a "Google" brand? (although, they don't really sell anything, Youtube has maintained it's own identity despite no longer being an independent company).
So...that's all the examples i can think of :laugh:.
To answer your question BoredPikachu!, i think they would apply :police:, since Nintendo is helping spread the franchise through distribution rights, and they use Nintendo's advertising team for their commercials in the US. :mario:
I hope this helps people and i didn't lose anyone in my odd grammar :P or bore anyone with non-applicable examples ;D.
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The way i see it, and anyone can prove me wrong if they choose, on whether or not a franchise applies, is this:
Question: a) Is the spider-man movie trilogy a "Marvel Movie" or a "Columbia/Tristar Pictures Movie"? How about the X-Men movies, "Marvel" or "20th Century Fox"?
With this question, i would go with the second option, because 1) the second company owns the movie rights to the franchises, and, more importantly, 2) Being owned by that company allows for a certain amount of brand-recognition and age-appropriate material. (For example, if the x-men movies were released by Columbia/Tristar, do you think wolverine would of been allowed to curse with his claws?)
Problem is, with a set up like that, some of the "Marvel-ness" is lost, and a movie cross-over between X-Men and Spider-man would be a legal nightmare, especially with Marvel now being owned Disney. :'(
On the other hand, look at DC. They are 100% owned by Warner Bros. Any Animation, Movies, TV Shows, etc. will be linked by to them. *random fan bursts* Smallville - Dark Knight crossover! :eekdance: *random fan bursts*.
B) Is a film release by "Touchstone Pictures" or even "Miramax" considered a Disney film?
I would say no, simply because of brand-recognition. the purpose of "Touchstone Pictures" is to be a separate brand then Disney, that way the company can release films without ruining its Family-Friendly image. :angel:
Other questions you could ask:
C) Is "Bleach" (Anime), considered a "Shoen Jump" (Manga Magazine) or a "Viz Media" (External/Subbing/Dubbing rights) anime? (They also do Graphic novels and the NA distribution of Shoen Jump, but that's besides the point)
D) Is "Halo" considered a "Bungie" or a "Microsoft" Brand?
E) is "YouTube" considered a "Google" brand? (although, they don't really sell anything, Youtube has maintained it's own identity despite no longer being an independent company).
So...that's all the examples i can think of :laugh:.
To answer your question BoredPikachu!, i think they would apply :police:, since Nintendo is helping spread the franchise through distribution rights, and they use Nintendo's advertising team for their commercials in the US. :mario:
I hope this helps people and i didn't lose anyone in my odd grammar :P or bore anyone with non-applicable examples ;D.
So would you agree with Axiomist's suggestion of "series that Nintendo has published at least one game in at least one region"? Nintendo doesn't really have a Miramax or Touchstone Pictures equivalent as far as I know so all games would still apply.
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The way i see it, and anyone can prove me wrong if they choose, on whether or not a franchise applies, is this:
Question: a) Is the spider-man movie trilogy a "Marvel Movie" or a "Columbia/Tristar Pictures Movie"? How about the X-Men movies, "Marvel" or "20th Century Fox"?
With this question, i would go with the second option, because 1) the second company owns the movie rights to the franchises, and, more importantly, 2) Being owned by that company allows for a certain amount of brand-recognition and age-appropriate material. (For example, if the x-men movies were released by Columbia/Tristar, do you think wolverine would of been allowed to curse with his claws?)
Problem is, with a set up like that, some of the "Marvel-ness" is lost, and a movie cross-over between X-Men and Spider-man would be a legal nightmare, especially with Marvel now being owned Disney. :'(
On the other hand, look at DC. They are 100% owned by Warner Bros. Any Animation, Movies, TV Shows, etc. will be linked by to them. *random fan bursts* Smallville - Dark Knight crossover! :eekdance: *random fan bursts*.
B) Is a film release by "Touchstone Pictures" or even "Miramax" considered a Disney film?
I would say no, simply because of brand-recognition. the purpose of "Touchstone Pictures" is to be a separate brand then Disney, that way the company can release films without ruining its Family-Friendly image. :angel:
Other questions you could ask:
C) Is "Bleach" (Anime), considered a "Shoen Jump" (Manga Magazine) or a "Viz Media" (External/Subbing/Dubbing rights) anime? (They also do Graphic novels and the NA distribution of Shoen Jump, but that's besides the point)
D) Is "Halo" considered a "Bungie" or a "Microsoft" Brand?
E) is "YouTube" considered a "Google" brand? (although, they don't really sell anything, Youtube has maintained it's own identity despite no longer being an independent company).
So...that's all the examples i can think of :laugh:.
To answer your question BoredPikachu!, i think they would apply :police:, since Nintendo is helping spread the franchise through distribution rights, and they use Nintendo's advertising team for their commercials in the US. :mario:
I hope this helps people and i didn't lose anyone in my odd grammar :P or bore anyone with non-applicable examples ;D.
So would you agree with Axiomist's suggestion of "series that Nintendo has published at least one game in at least one region"? Nintendo doesn't really have a Miramax or Touchstone Pictures equivalent as far as I know so all games would still apply.
I would, so long as it is as the brand or franchise is recognized as a Nintendo brand or franchise.
O! and i thought of something else:
Donkey Kong Country - Rare Games, a Former Rare Brand, but even though rare developed it, it was still part of a Nintendo franchise because they 1) published it and 2) own the rights over it.
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In the case of Professor Layton, Level-5 doesn't have overseas subsidiaries to publish its games, so it looks to Nintendo's subsidiaries to do so for them. Does that make Professor Layton a Nintendo series or a Level-5 series that Nintendo assists in distributing?
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I would, so long as it is as the brand or franchise is recognized as a Nintendo brand or franchise.
I agree with that statement, and I think most of us do. The only problem is determining what is and what isn't a "recognized Nintendo brand/franchise". People's opinions seem to be all over the spectrum. I think a lot of us are looking for a basic formula that sums everything up, and I'm not sure such a formula exists. If anyone can think of one that everyone agrees on though, that would be more than great.
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To answer your question BoredPikachu!, i think they would apply :police:, since Nintendo is helping spread the franchise through distribution rights, and they use Nintendo's advertising team for their commercials in the US. :mario:
I hope this helps people and i didn't lose anyone in my odd grammar :P or bore anyone with non-applicable examples ;D.
Alright, many thanks :).
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This maybe making things more complex, But the posts BrandedOne and vince220 made above, and then some research i did on wikipedia, gave me an idea that may help us find a solution.
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level-5), Level 5 does more than just Professor Layton. There is also,
- White Knight Chronicles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Knight_Chronicles) - a PS exclusive
- Rogue Galaxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_Galaxy) - another PS Exclusive
- Dark Cloud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Cloud)
- Jeanne d'Arc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_d'Arc_(video_game))
So, considering Level 5 is expanding and becoming popular in both Japan and outside of it, deals thus far in only console exclusives, and then also considering it is a Nintendo exclusive (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Nintendo_DS-only_games&from=P) franchise - the two companies probably have a contract in order to say so - would it be suggestible that a Professor Layton Wiki be both in a Nintendo Wiki Group, like NIWA, and a Level 5 wiki group?
the problem is when it gets more complex for other franchises? if a franchise has 10 games, where development has been distributed unevenly amongst various companies, would the respective wiki join a wiki group based around a company that only developed 1 or 2 games?
I know the answer is probably varies from franchise by franchise, wiki group to wiki group and wiki to wiki, but i find extrapolation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapolation) fun and figured it would be useful at this time to apply it to NIWA.
Thoughts?
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I don't see any reason why a wiki couldn't be a part of more than one IWA, aside from the fact that NIWA is really the only one in existence at this point in time (correct me if I'm wrong, please :)) More IWAs would have to be created in order for this to happen. While any wiki could join any IWA that allows them entrance, it would make the most sense for them to join the one for the company chiefly responsible for their franchise. If it's unclear, then all the more reason to join both.
This is something that I could see influencing Strategy Wiki more than anyone else, considering they cover quite a bit of ground.
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Just kind of stepping in to say that we should really "creating a wiki for the sake of a wiki" in mind - or in this case, "creating an alliance for the sake of an alliance". Nintendo's something that covers very large ground, but I really don't think people should be throwing around ideas like this so hastily.
NIWA's garden motif comes to mind. A wiki can really only grow when people give it lots of care. But when there's a small audience/group of editors, it becomes much more difficult. I also think that if more alliances were to be created, it'd be created by series fans for the fans. But that's a given, I think.
Also going to add in the fact that Professor Layton's actually a pretty big series right now. A new game's been coming out pretty much every year (since... 2007, I think?), a full-length animated movie that even got officially released in English, and it's pretty popular. I'm a pretty big fan of it, myself, although I wouldn't be able to help out with setting up a wiki since I can hardly focus on WB right now. :P
I think things like this should be approached less from a business attitude with theories, which is kind of the sense I'm getting right now. Or... uh. Well, bottom line the feeling I'm getting is just 'making stuff for the sake of making stuff', which isn't a very good idea for things like wikis, but unfortunately it happens a lot. :(
Or maybe the feeling I'm getting is that people who know the company/series well should be the ones plotting/hypothesizing? I can't really tell, but either way it's bothering me a lot.
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Sorry for your feeling bothered. :(
There's certainly lots of work that can be done around all of the wikis before we start to think about creating new alliances and such. I've been waiting to see more progress on Arwingpedia's merge, for example. The wiki that needs my help the most is Fire Emblem Wiki, and once I get past a few hurdles in my real life, I'll be editing there like none other.
We're throwing around a lot of cool ideas, things we could do in the future, with the emphasis on "in the future". NIWA's still young, right? It's okay for us to be thinking about these things, I mean, if we don't have a vision of where we want to go, we'll never get there. We just have to keep in mind that we have a lot of tending to do to our own garden before we try to plant a whole new one.
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Yea, :D
I was just "thinking out loud", if you can hear my voice in your head, that is. I enjoy speculating, bring things out to their logical extension (and beyond) when no one is hurt by it.
Anyway, i hope, one day, the IWA's can roam free around the internet. giving help to whom ever needs it. Consider it a both a marketing strategy and forming of groups of people who share a common interest: like a club at school or college.
You're not required to join, but when you do so, you improve the quality of your time at the institution many times over.
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I found this (http://okamiworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page) while searching the Internet.
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At the bottom of their main page, they a have a link to a wiki on Ico/Shadow of the Colossus by Sony.
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I found this (http://okamiworld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page) while searching the Internet.
Wow, that's a really outdated version of MediaWiki. 1.9.5? Activity isn't the worst, but they may want to look at upgrading MediaWiki.
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Check out the changes for November 8, 2010. You'll see Dantman; he seems to be pretty active on the wiki. If you don't know who that is, he is a newer member of NIWA. You might know him from this thread (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=527.0).
I don't really know where I'm going with this, but it's just an interesting observation I made.
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I know who he is; I noticed that also, and am surprised that the wiki still runs on 1.9.5 with him there. ???
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
Minor anomalies like this are why it is next to impossible to create an absolute set of policies for admission into NIWA. We can make guidelines (and I very much support making guidelines), but in the end, everything will be decided on a case-by-case basis.
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
Minor anomalies like this are why it is next to impossible to create an absolute set of policies for admission into NIWA. We can make guidelines (and I very much support making guidelines), but in the end, everything will be decided on a case-by-case basis.
I assume anything made by Nintendo or there subsidiaries would be a Nintendo series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo#Software_development_studios
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
Minor anomalies like this are why it is next to impossible to create an absolute set of policies for admission into NIWA. We can make guidelines (and I very much support making guidelines), but in the end, everything will be decided on a case-by-case basis.
I assume anything made by Nintendo or there subsidiaries would be a Nintendo series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo#Software_development_studios
In most cases, yes. But what about a franchise like Xenosaga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenosaga) developed by Monolith Soft before they became Nintendo property? It wasn't before but is it now? Again, on a case by case basis, like Vince said.
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
Minor anomalies like this are why it is next to impossible to create an absolute set of policies for admission into NIWA. We can make guidelines (and I very much support making guidelines), but in the end, everything will be decided on a case-by-case basis.
I assume anything made by Nintendo or there subsidiaries would be a Nintendo series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo#Software_development_studios
In most cases, yes. But what about a franchise like Xenosaga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenosaga) developed by Monolith Soft before they became Nintendo property? It wasn't before but is it now? Again, on a case by case basis, like Vince said.
Zelda has a similar situation with the CD-i. Same with Mario.
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So Kirby is the only pureblood?
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So Kirby is the only pureblood?
There's also Metroid, Wars, Animal Crossing, EarthBound, Star Fox, and Pikmin in that category.
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So Kirby is the only pureblood?
I wouldn't exactly call it a pureblood because it is a second-party game. But yeah, it comes as close as a non-Nintendo developed franchise can.
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Actually HAL is a first party developer, not second, because it is a subsidiary of Nintendo. Second party is when Nintendo agrees with them to publish their games, and third party is pretty self-explanatory from there.
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HAL Laboratory isn't a subsidiary of Nintendo. It is an independent company.
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The current president of Nintendo is from HAL. So... that means something. And I can't think of a HAL title on any other modern system.
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it's a second-party developer
So says IGN (http://games.ign.com/objects/026/026289.html).
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HAL Laboratory isn't a subsidiary of Nintendo. It is an independent company.
That must mean that Wikipedia has lied to me yet again!
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Anyone think that a Bomberman Wiki is possible? It's made by Hudson, which is a company who works with Nintendo on the Mario Party series. I don't have much knowledge myself of Bomberman, and I have forgotten if it was exclusive on Nintendo consoles. I only remember Bomberman 64. Is it still acceptable? Just asking.
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I don't know if it would be acceptable, I guess it would. It isn't Nintendo-only, BTW. And a concern I have, would there be enough stuff to cover?
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HAL Laboratory isn't a subsidiary of Nintendo. It is an independent company.
That must mean that Wikipedia has lied to me yet again!
Yeah, usually Wikipedia is a great source, but the HAL Laboratory article contradicts itself. The infobox says it is a subsidiary of Nintendo, and the navigation box says it is a second-party developer.
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HAL Laboratory isn't a subsidiary of Nintendo. It is an independent company.
That must mean that Wikipedia has lied to me yet again!
Yeah, usually Wikipedia is a great source, but the HAL Laboratory article contradicts itself. The infobox says it is a subsidiary of Nintendo, and the navigation box says it is a second-party developer.
considering it is wikipedia. Any of us can go in and correct it.
Also, a secondary development doesn't have to be have to be independent company, nor does it have to be a Subsidiary. Although, being independent is rare for a second party developer to be.
What is important:
1) first party is developed inside Nintendo itself.
2) Second party is developed by an outside studio, even if the studio is owned by Nintendo.
3) third party is entirely independent. Nintendo may licence the game, but they don't own the company. They may have a minor stock share, though.
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I would, so long as it is as the brand or franchise is recognized as a Nintendo brand or franchise.
I agree with that statement, and I think most of us do. The only problem is determining what is and what isn't a "recognized Nintendo brand/franchise". People's opinions seem to be all over the spectrum. I think a lot of us are looking for a basic formula that sums everything up, and I'm not sure such a formula exists. If anyone can think of one that everyone agrees on though, that would be more than great.
Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
Minor anomalies like this are why it is next to impossible to create an absolute set of policies for admission into NIWA. We can make guidelines (and I very much support making guidelines), but in the end, everything will be decided on a case-by-case basis.
Earlier, I said that coming up with a formula for inclusion would be next-to-impossible because nearly every series has some random anomaly. I think I have found a pretty good way to make a black-and-white guideline though. I call my suggestion the 90/75 Rule - I just give it that name because it is easy to modify as one sees fit. Basically, for a series to qualify, 90% of its commercial software (this includes non-game software such as Mario Paint; it does not include non-commercial software such as demos) must be available on Nintendo consoles, and 75% of its commercial software must be exclusive to Nintendo consoles.
The reason this formula works is because it leaves room for minor anomalies without having to define what those anomalies may be. It allows series such as Ace Attorney and Trauma Center into the alliance while preventing a flood of wikis on Call of Duty, Madden, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Rock Band, Street Fighter, etc. All of these franchises have consistently appeared on Nintendo consoles, but few people would argue that they are Nintendo franchises. Again, the numbers could always be changed. It would also be up to NIWA whether or not they mark PC/iPhone ports against the Nintendo-exclusivity requirement.
These are only my suggestions, and the most important requirement would remain independence. I would love to hear some thoughts.
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I would, so long as it is as the brand or franchise is recognized as a Nintendo brand or franchise.
I agree with that statement, and I think most of us do. The only problem is determining what is and what isn't a "recognized Nintendo brand/franchise". People's opinions seem to be all over the spectrum. I think a lot of us are looking for a basic formula that sums everything up, and I'm not sure such a formula exists. If anyone can think of one that everyone agrees on though, that would be more than great.
Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
Minor anomalies like this are why it is next to impossible to create an absolute set of policies for admission into NIWA. We can make guidelines (and I very much support making guidelines), but in the end, everything will be decided on a case-by-case basis.
Earlier, I said that coming up with a formula for inclusion would be next-to-impossible because nearly every series has some random anomaly. I think I have found a pretty good way to make a black-and-white guideline though. I call my suggestion the 90/75 Rule - I just give it that name because it is easy to modify as one sees fit. Basically, for a series to qualify, 90% of its commercial software (this includes non-game software such as Mario Paint; it does not include non-commercial software such as demos) must be available on Nintendo consoles, and 75% of its commercial software must be exclusive to Nintendo consoles.
The reason this formula works is because it leaves room for minor anomalies without having to define what those anomalies may be. It allows series such as Ace Attorney and Trauma Center into the alliance while preventing a flood of wikis on Call of Duty, Madden, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Rock Band, Street Fighter, etc. All of these franchises have consistently appeared on Nintendo consoles, but few people would argue that they are Nintendo franchises. Again, the numbers could always be changed. It would also be up to NIWA whether or not they mark PC/iPhone ports against the Nintendo-exclusivity requirement.
These are only my suggestions, and the most important requirement would remain independence. I would love to hear some thoughts.
I think this will work well. It defines a guide number, but has a built-in exception support.
Good job! ;D
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Thanks! There are a couple flaws, though, now that I think about it. For example, one non-Nintendo game can mess up the percentages for a franchise with nine or less games.
Under the 75/90 Rule, I think Mega Man would qualify. Basically, an historically Nintendo franchise would qualify despite the fact that they support every console equally in recent times. Yeah, you could raise the numbers, but you would have to raise them pretty high considering how many Mega Man titles Capcom has released for the NES, SNES, Game Boy, and Nintendo DS. Maybe an additional requirement that at least one title has been developed, published, or distributed by Nintendo could solve this problem... or maybe it's not a problem at all.
NIWA's decision on a franchise like Mega Man will really say a lot about what direction NIWA is going in. It basically answers whether NIWA will be like the United Nations or the European Union - not everyone will understand the comparison, but those who do will realize the big fork in the road.
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It basically answers whether NIWA will be like the United Nations or the European Union (not everyone will understand the comparison, but those who do will realize the big fork in the road).
From the viewpoint of one living in a member state of the European Union, I don't agree with NIWA following either one.
- If NIWA follows the path of the United Nations, it will remain a peaceful garden of wikis with self-autonomy, but will incorporate possibly a larger number of wikis than some may want.
- If NIWA follows the European Union, it will include only wikis with a relatively strong Nintendo connection, but those wikis will gradually lose autonomy to NIWA as time passes.
I'm thinking, take only the inclusion policy of the EU, with the "full self-control" of the UN, and I think this is probably the idea you originally had when you compared the two.
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A 90/75 rule could have some unforeseen consequences. For one, smaller franchises would take a heavy hit if one of their games (or spinoff games) went onto another console. Secondly, it would leave certain franchises stranded without any decent IWA (unless we get random IWAs forming that have no themes).
I think the rule of best fit should apply: Are there other (possible) IWAs that franchise could fit in? If the answer is no, and the franchise is mostly based on Nintendo systems, then they would join NIWA. If the answer is yes, and the franchise best fits with NIWA, then it goes with NIWA, otherwise it goes the other IWA.
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I think the rule of best fit should apply: Are there other (possible) IWAs that franchise could fit in? If the answer is no, and the franchise is mostly based on Nintendo systems, then they would join NIWA. If the answer is yes, and the franchise best fits with NIWA, then it goes with NIWA, otherwise it goes the other IWA.
Currently, there are no other IWA's out there to begin with. So, you'd be stuck thinking of a wiki joining Hypothetical other iwa's, vs. joining us.
Now, i'm not saying that we would kick out a wiki we feel has better options out there; instead i think it would be up to the wiki. Should they join, then a better IWA comes along, will they:
1) Stay with NIWA
2) Leave NIWA for the other IWA
3) Stay with NIWA and Join the other IWA.
Personally, i like option #3; but that may make things more complex than other people out there may want.
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I like this discussion, but one thing I must say is that there is far too much metaphorical comparison. We should not try to emulate the UN or the EU or anything else. We should be what we are and nothing more.
I have to get going in a few minutes, but I encourage this discussion to keep going, sans political minutia.
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I like this discussion, but one thing I must say is that there is far too much metaphorical comparison. We should not try to emulate the UN or the EU or anything else. We should be what we are and nothing more.
I have to get going in a few minutes, but I encourage this discussion to keep going, sans political minutia.
Then what are we? ;D
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I like this discussion, but one thing I must say is that there is far too much metaphorical comparison. We should not try to emulate the UN or the EU or anything else. We should be what we are and nothing more.
I have to get going in a few minutes, but I encourage this discussion to keep going, sans political minutia.
Then what are we? ;D
A garden of independent wikis, brought together by being independent, aiming to bring wikis to their freedom by giving them independency! And helping them grow a bit by letting them join a garden that the wiki fits in.
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I like this discussion, but one thing I must say is that there is far too much metaphorical comparison. We should not try to emulate the UN or the EU or anything else. We should be what we are and nothing more.
I have to get going in a few minutes, but I encourage this discussion to keep going, sans political minutia.
Then what are we? ;D
A garden of independent wikis, brought together by being independent, aiming to bring wikis to their freedom by giving them independency! And helping them grow a bit by letting them join a garden that the wiki fits in.
A-Ha! you just used a metaphor!
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Then I'll replace them to make it:
A network of independent wikis, brought together by being independent, aiming to bring wikis to be free of mandatory skins and the like by making them independent. And helping them get bigger by letting them join a network that the wiki fits in.
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Then I'll replace them to make it:
A network of independent wikis, brought together by being independent, aiming to bring wikis to be free of mandatory skins and the like by making them independent. And helping them get bigger by letting them join a network that the wiki fits in.
much better. Hopefully Xizor approves of this one. :P.
Anyway, back on topic.
I think the rule of best fit should apply: Are there other (possible) IWAs that franchise could fit in? If the answer is no, and the franchise is mostly based on Nintendo systems, then they would join NIWA. If the answer is yes, and the franchise best fits with NIWA, then it goes with NIWA, otherwise it goes the other IWA.
Currently, there are no other IWA's out there to begin with. So, you'd be stuck thinking of a wiki joining Hypothetical other iwa's, vs. joining us.
Now, i'm not saying that we would kick out a wiki we feel has better options out there; instead i think it would be up to the wiki. Should they join, then a better IWA comes along, will they:
1) Stay with NIWA
2) Leave NIWA for the other IWA
3) Stay with NIWA and Join the other IWA.
Personally, i like option #3; but that may make things more complex than other people out there may want.
Reposted for your convince.
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I know this isn't exactly in the purview of video games, but if we are somewhat aiming for more IWAs, wouldn't it make sense to promote an anime/manga related IWA? There are lots of anime/manga-related wikis, so having them form an IWA would be a nice boost to our cause.
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If NIWA wants to accept a Harvest Moon Wiki, it may want to consider this (http://www.ranchstory.co.uk/wiki/Main_Page) one.
Also, there is an independent Rayman Wiki (http://www.raymanpc.com/wiki/en/Main_Page).
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If NIWA wants to accept a Harvest Moon Wiki, it may want to consider this (http://www.ranchstory.co.uk/wiki/Main_Page) one.
Also, there is an independent Rayman Wiki (http://www.raymanpc.com/wiki/en/Main_Page).
cool. Thank you.
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Alright guys, I hope you know NIWA won't soon set a completely unbendable system. Meaning if a sonic wiki met certain criteria, it would still have a chance of getting in. It simply has to be discussed by staff first :]
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Alright guys, I hope you know NIWA won't soon set a completely unbendable system. Meaning if a sonic wiki met certain criteria, it would still have a chance of getting in. It simply has to be discussed by staff first :]
Unbendable systems never work very well anyway :P
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Nope, they do not. We're looking for firm and flexible
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It might be best for NIWA to expand beyond "NIWA" before we add Sonic et al in.
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It might be best for NIWA to expand beyond "NIWA" before we add Sonic et al in.
I thought sonic would join a sega IWA
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It might be best for NIWA to expand beyond "NIWA" before we add Sonic et al in.
I thought sonic would join a sega IWA
First a sega IWA would have to exist. I imagine that if one does come about in the future, a Sonic Wiki would probably be a founding member.
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Well there is a Sega Retro group, and a wiki named Sonic Retro. Sonic wiki is much much smaller in comparison. I asked, but haven't gotten a response, about whether or not those two wikis are on good terms.
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Well there is a Sega Retro group, and a wiki named Sonic Retro. Sonic wiki is much much smaller in comparison. I asked, but haven't gotten a response, about whether or not those two wikis are on good terms.
how many other series does sega have?
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Well there is a Sega Retro group, and a wiki named Sonic Retro. Sonic wiki is much much smaller in comparison. I asked, but haven't gotten a response, about whether or not those two wikis are on good terms.
how many other series does sega have?
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises), a whole bunch, but none have really been successful since they stopped making their own consoles (with a few exceptions, like Super Monkey Ball).
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From Wikipedia:
After Burner • Alex Kidd • Altered Beast • Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg • Bonanza Bros. • Chu Chu Rocket • Columns • Crazy Taxi • Daytona USA • Ecco the Dolphin • Fantasy Zone • Flicky • Football Manager • Golden Axe • Hang-On • The House of the Dead • Jet Set Radio • Landstalker • NiGHTS • Out Run • Panzer Dragoon • Phantasy Star • Puyo Puyo • Ristar • Sakura Wars • Samba de Amigo • Sands of Destruction • Sega Rally • Sega Superstars • Shenmue • Shining • Shinobi • Sonic the Hedgehog • Space Channel 5 • Space Harrier • Streets of Rage • Super Monkey Ball • Total War • Valkyria Chronicles • Virtua Cop • Virtua Fighter • Virtua Striker • Virtua Tennis • Virtual On • Wonder Boy • Yakuza
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Well there is a Sega Retro group, and a wiki named Sonic Retro. Sonic wiki is much much smaller in comparison. I asked, but haven't gotten a response, about whether or not those two wikis are on good terms.
how many other series does sega have?
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises), a whole bunch, but none have really been successful since they stopped making their own consoles (with a few exceptions, like Super Monkey Ball).
wow, that's alot.
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Valkyria Chronicles is doing really well, and is one of the more anticipated Sega titles right now. I am seriously considering getting a PSP so I can play it.
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Well there is a Sega Retro group, and a wiki named Sonic Retro. Sonic wiki is much much smaller in comparison. I asked, but haven't gotten a response, about whether or not those two wikis are on good terms.
I just asked Sonic the Wiki (http://www.sonicthewiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Tacopill) if they are on good terms with Sonic Retro. Lets see what their response is.
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
OK, so I just found out that there are more Pokémon games on Sega consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games) again; there are 3 Pokémon games for Sega Pico and 4 for Advanced Pico Beena.
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Also: Check out this post (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=100.msg3049#msg3049)
I would just like to note that there are Pokémon games on non-Nintendo consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games). There are 6 for PC, 2 for mobile phone, then there is even one for Sega Pico.
OK, so I just found out that there are more Pokémon games on Sega consoles. See this Bulbapedia template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Other_games) again; there are 3 Pokémon games for Sega Pico and 4 for Advanced Pico Beena.
Well, from the look of it, it seems they are educational games, so i consider it an allowable exception while they still qualify under what i said in the post that started this sub-thread. :D
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I think the occasional game for another system is allowable, so long as the primary focus is on Nintendo consoles.
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Can My FarmMoon Wiki Been Non- :mario: Wiki
http://farmmoon.gamewiki.me/
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Hi PkNess, welcome to the NIWA forums. Let me share some things that might be helpful to you.
The requirements for affiliation are listed here: http://www.niwanetwork.org/join.php. Your site must meet them in order to be considered. Right now your site does not meet many of these.
However, the best thing you can do is to start growing your wiki. Learn about mediawiki and start making edits. Try to build a community at your new site so that your site will grow. Best of luck! :)
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Hey guys, it has been awhile since this was discussed and I was wondering if there was any private discussion on this manner. Franchises that are non-Nintendo but appear (or will appear) on Nintendo consoles.
I have a Darksiders Wiki that I started and was wondering if that qualified.
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Qualified for what? Membership to NIWA?
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Ya, if it fits the qualities to be considered.
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With the more ambiguous cases, we tend to discuss it as a Staff, and we all decide together whether or not we want to include the wiki. So if you want your wiki to join, and the only thing holding it back is the fact as to whether or not it qualifies as "Nintendo-related" then we can certainly discuss it as a group. :)
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Thanks Xizor,
Do I need to post it somewhere so that it is discussed. Can you forward it along to the necessary people so it can be talked about? Let me know what I need to do, thanks.
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Since you're NIWA staff, just post it in the Membership Requests board.
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Does MegaMan count?