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Title: Suggestions
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on February 15, 2010, 11:46:46 PM
If you have any suggestions for the NIWA community, post them here.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 15, 2010, 11:48:53 PM
I dun't like the SMF. ;_;
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Zoroark on February 15, 2010, 11:51:50 PM
SMF is fine. No need to fix something that ain't broken, I always say.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: SMB on February 15, 2010, 11:53:04 PM
I dun't like the SMF. ;_;

SMF is a pretty cool guy, eh is a forum service and doesn't afraid of anything.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 15, 2010, 11:56:11 PM
I dun't like the SMF. ;_;

SMF is a pretty cool guy, eh is a forum service and doesn't afraid of anything.
But, vBulletin is cooler. D:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Homer Simpson on February 16, 2010, 01:13:42 AM
Skins plx.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: immewnity on February 16, 2010, 01:15:29 AM
Change from JPGy forum notification icons that sorta look like a globe.

And, this is for the wikis: global login in all? Would be useful, eh?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Homer Simpson on February 16, 2010, 01:41:17 AM
Also needs a banner.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Ninjask on February 16, 2010, 01:52:10 AM
I do agree that a banner would be cool, but at the same time not necessary.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 16, 2010, 02:01:38 AM
What kind of banner, and where, may I ask?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: SMB on February 16, 2010, 02:02:39 AM
And, this is for the wikis: global login in all? Would be useful, eh?

I'm not sure about this. The one thing that would worry me is that we have some users that have accounts on two or more of the wikis... There might be some way of merging the accounts globally (I think they call it Userpering on Wikipedia). If all of the wikis would agree to that, then that would be good.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Homer Simpson on February 16, 2010, 02:07:03 AM
What kind of banner, and where, may I ask?
You know, an artful piece at the top of the forum with the name of the site and maybe a slogan.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 16, 2010, 02:18:50 AM
And, this is for the wikis: global login in all? Would be useful, eh?

I'm not sure about this. The one thing that would worry me is that we have some users that have accounts on two or more of the wikis... There might be some way of merging the accounts globally (I think they call it Userpering on Wikipedia). If all of the wikis would agree to that, then that would be good.
But I don't want my Bulbapedia and MarioWiki accounts merged. :(
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 16, 2010, 02:19:15 AM
Sounds nice. I will get to it. I also want to make the logo link to the main hub
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 16, 2010, 02:28:22 AM
Possibly separate forum sections for discussing each wiki?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on February 16, 2010, 02:30:40 AM
And, this is for the wikis: global login in all? Would be useful, eh?

I'm not sure about this. The one thing that would worry me is that we have some users that have accounts on two or more of the wikis... There might be some way of merging the accounts globally (I think they call it Userpering on Wikipedia). If all of the wikis would agree to that, then that would be good.

This would be really cool. It shouldn't be impossible. Facebook allows you to sync your account with accounts on other sites. Let's hope the other wikis approve of it.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 16, 2010, 02:31:19 AM
Well, that was proposed also in the admins forum, but I feel that should go in each individual wiki forum...
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 02:32:15 AM
And, this is for the wikis: global login in all? Would be useful, eh?

I'm not sure about this. The one thing that would worry me is that we have some users that have accounts on two or more of the wikis... There might be some way of merging the accounts globally (I think they call it Userpering on Wikipedia). If all of the wikis would agree to that, then that would be good.
I don't really like the idea of merging accounts.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 16, 2010, 02:33:46 AM
And, this is for the wikis: global login in all? Would be useful, eh?

I'm not sure about this. The one thing that would worry me is that we have some users that have accounts on two or more of the wikis... There might be some way of merging the accounts globally (I think they call it Userpering on Wikipedia). If all of the wikis would agree to that, then that would be good.
I don't really like the idea of merging accounts.
Me neither. :(

I'd prefer my MarioWiki and Bulbapedia accounts seperate, kthxbai.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Edofenrir on February 16, 2010, 02:35:23 AM
And, this is for the wikis: global login in all? Would be useful, eh?

I'm not sure about this. The one thing that would worry me is that we have some users that have accounts on two or more of the wikis... There might be some way of merging the accounts globally (I think they call it Userpering on Wikipedia). If all of the wikis would agree to that, then that would be good.
I don't really like the idea of merging accounts.

Neither do I.

Aside from that, it partly takes away the three wikis' independence. If a user trolls on one wiki, does he/she get banned everywhere, how does the administration work, etc.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 16, 2010, 02:37:28 AM
So then who wants it??
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 16, 2010, 02:39:46 AM
Maybe not a merge of accounts, but some feature that allows you to link your accounts from each wiki? Like on your zelda wiki profile your mario wiki, NIWA, and bulbawiki account names will be displayed? More like a partial merge if you ask me.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 16, 2010, 02:43:36 AM
Maybe not a merge of accounts, but some feature that allows you to link your accounts from each wiki? Like on your zelda wiki profile your mario wiki, NIWA, and bulbawiki account names will be displayed? More like a partial merge if you ask me.
That can be done now with {{smw|user:blah}} and that, is that what you refer to?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
Keep in mind that we are still independent wikis.


I think each user should decide individually as to what links they will put on their userpage, etc.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Stooben on February 16, 2010, 04:21:26 AM
I don't really like the idea of merging accounts.
Me neither. I don't really think it's necessary, anyway.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nerdy Guy on February 16, 2010, 04:22:52 AM
Per Stoob and Garlic.

Though this is pretty minor compared to other stuff, how about new boards for this forum? I guess maybe Off-Topic, HelpDesk, etc. would be cool.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 16, 2010, 04:24:10 AM
Per Stoob and Garlic.

Though this is pretty minor compared to other stuff, how about new boards for this forum? I guess maybe Off-Topic, HelpDesk, etc. would be cool.
And me dammit. D:<

I was the first person to say they didn't want to merge accounts. ;_;
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 04:24:50 AM
Per Stoob and Garlic.

Though this is pretty minor compared to other stuff, how about new boards for this forum? I guess maybe Off-Topic, HelpDesk, etc. would be cool.
You mean, a copy of Mario Wiki Forums? *shot*

I think we said that Help stuff would be handled in General Discussion, although changes will likely occur as this forum grows, of course.



BTW, welcome, Nerdy Guy.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 16, 2010, 04:39:40 AM
Lik I've previously mentioned, maybe little sub-ford to discuss the separate wikis in the alliance can be added, and maybe little things like a suggestion topic can be added to those as well.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 04:42:33 AM
Lik I've previously mentioned, maybe little sub-ford to discuss the separate wikis in the alliance can be added
There's already such a board in the Staff-only boards; but perhaps we can make an open one as well for everyone to contribute opinions.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 16, 2010, 04:46:41 AM
Lik I've previously mentioned, maybe little sub-ford to discuss the separate wikis in the alliance can be added
There's already such a board in the Staff-only boards; but perhaps we can make an open one as well for everyone to contribute opinions.

since this is, in fact, a community effort, everyone should get a chance to be involved a bit, so I think it should be done
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Kunoichi on February 16, 2010, 05:54:58 AM
Maybe have somewhere on the forums a members introduction?
So we can all get to know each other and stuff. :O
Umm umm yeh.. x3
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 16, 2010, 06:06:23 AM
Maybe have somewhere on the forums a members introduction?
So we can all get to know each other and stuff. :O
Umm umm yeh.. x3
That's actually a pretty good idea. :P

Although, I recognize like most of you. :P
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Kunoichi on February 16, 2010, 06:11:46 AM
Maybe have somewhere on the forums a members introduction?
So we can all get to know each other and stuff. :O
Umm umm yeh.. x3
That's actually a pretty good idea. :P

Although, I recognize like most of you. :P

Eeee! Sprite-Making Aiko! x3
-was looking at those sprites!-

I think It'll be good when more members start coming in!
yay niwa!
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: ??s?????c on February 16, 2010, 06:12:36 AM
Some spoiler tags would be nice :/
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 06:14:16 AM
Maybe have somewhere on the forums a members introduction?
So we can all get to know each other and stuff. :O
Umm umm yeh.. x3
Done.  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: ??s?????c on February 16, 2010, 06:46:19 AM
I didn't see this recommended but I think we should ban VA talk here for Pokemon.

Things could get ugly :3
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Kunoichi on February 16, 2010, 06:48:53 AM
VA talk...? D:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: ??s?????c on February 16, 2010, 06:50:04 AM
VA talk...? D:
Voice Actor talk. Those arguments get rather ugly and they COULD arise here. Just saying better to be safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Kunoichi on February 16, 2010, 06:51:40 AM
VA talk...? D:
Voice Actor talk. Those arguments get rather ugly and they COULD arise here. Just saying better to be safe than sorry.


ooooh! yeah.. xD good point~
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 06:52:56 AM
VA talk...? D:
Voice Actor talk. Those arguments get rather ugly and they COULD arise here. Just saying better to be safe than sorry.
Voice Actor talk?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: ??s?????c on February 16, 2010, 06:54:21 AM
VA talk...? D:
Voice Actor talk. Those arguments get rather ugly and they COULD arise here. Just saying better to be safe than sorry.
Voice Actor talk?
Well arguments. Some people prefer different voice actors and start bashing other voice actors, etc etc. It just starts flame wars in the Pokemon fandom.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 07:07:54 AM
Wow. That never happens at Mario Wiki haha.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Kunoichi on February 16, 2010, 07:17:23 AM
VA talk...? D:
Voice Actor talk. Those arguments get rather ugly and they COULD arise here. Just saying better to be safe than sorry.
Voice Actor talk?
Well arguments. Some people prefer different voice actors and start bashing other voice actors, etc etc. It just starts flame wars in the Pokemon fandom.

I've read that happening on tons of anime forums too. xD
Though i usually avoid them. fangirls can get scary. ;__;
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on February 16, 2010, 09:17:41 AM
About merging accounts, the only thing we considered, which may be in the works is helping the other wikis set up OpenID registration and log in. It's completely optional and the users could go from one wiki to the next and be signed in. Bulbapedia and its many language affiliates would benefit the most from that system.

Oh and hey I have a suggestion... think we should have a thread of Forum suggestions and another for wiki suggestions? (just thinking out loud)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Gary Oak on February 16, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
Make the NIWA homepage a bit more... snazzy.
It looks pretty naff right now...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nerdy Guy on February 16, 2010, 02:58:03 PM
The homepage looks pretty good right now and better then other ones I've seen. Though, it is a little bland like you said.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 03:07:13 PM
More is planning to be added; obviously, it's not complete with just the hub image.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Muzy72 on February 16, 2010, 05:58:02 PM
We should have a chatroom for the forums. Kinda like another forum I go to which uses SMF.

(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3761/examplev.jpg)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nerdy Guy on February 16, 2010, 06:03:05 PM
It should be IRC based incase someone can't access it from the forum app. I use a DSi, so using the DarkMyst Alternate App is the only way I can access chatrooms.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Gary Oak on February 16, 2010, 06:11:50 PM
It should be IRC based incase someone can't access it from the forum app. I use a DSi, so using the DarkMyst Alternate App is the only way I can access chatrooms.
You use your DSi? I used to do that, but it was really slow...
Anyway, enough of that.
Yeah, I do think chat would be a good idea.
It would make this place a little more of a "community".  :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 16, 2010, 08:09:42 PM
We are working on adding more stuff to the hub page, and adding a lnk to our IRC channel (#niwa) in there :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Master Cobalt on February 16, 2010, 09:48:32 PM
I'd like a Super Smash Bros. sub-board.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nerdy Guy on February 16, 2010, 10:17:38 PM
I'd like a Super Smash Bros. sub-board.
I'm not sure if we need one of those right now though. :/
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Edofenrir on February 16, 2010, 10:24:15 PM
I'd like a Super Smash Bros. sub-board.
I'm not sure if we need one of those right now though. :/

I would assume that's why he posted it into the Suggestions thread, so we can clarify if we need one or not.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 16, 2010, 10:58:59 PM
Sorry, but I think that wont happen in a time......

to people who dislike the theme, tomorrow we will have anew one (probably), a custom one B)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nerdy Guy on February 16, 2010, 11:36:38 PM
The auto-censors are a little uptight since they run in with common clean words like "assume", etc. Is there any way to fix this?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: iDOWN on February 16, 2010, 11:42:20 PM
In the Admin Panel, there should be something like this:

Check only whole words:  [ ]
Ignore case when censoring:    [ ]

Both boxes should be checked to fix the problem, I believe.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nerdy Guy on February 16, 2010, 11:46:14 PM
You don't have to exactly check both boxes since they might cause more problems. The way the MarioWiki Forum is set up, ass isn't censored, but forms of the word like a****** are. It'd be a little less "error-ful" if it's set up like that.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: iDOWN on February 16, 2010, 11:50:11 PM
Ah. Well, that's how a forum I moderate does it, and I don't think there have been any problems. But, who knows?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Stooben on February 16, 2010, 11:53:20 PM
The auto-censor has been fixed. There shouldn't be anymore "clean words" that are censored.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 17, 2010, 12:02:34 AM
But if you do that, words like s***face" become uncensored, which could be a problem.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Stooben on February 17, 2010, 12:09:43 AM
Whoops, forgot to uncheck one of the boxes. ^^;

It should be all fixed now. (Example: s***head" is censored. "Glassy" is not.)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 17, 2010, 12:43:26 AM
Ah, cool. Did we just take the censor from "ass" off entirely?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 17, 2010, 01:19:39 AM
Fixed, a** isnt in the auto censor, anyways (I censored that myself) Andy d***. If you see that uncensored then it worked :D
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 17, 2010, 01:21:54 AM
d*** is still censored bro. Wait, was that "d a m n" you said or "d i c k"?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Stooben on February 17, 2010, 01:23:43 AM
The latter.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 17, 2010, 01:28:44 AM
Oh, well "R o d d i c k" still shows up as "d***"
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: 2257 on February 17, 2010, 01:59:41 AM
Roddi?ck?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 17, 2010, 02:02:29 AM
Oh, well "R o d d i c k" still shows up as "d***"
is it working now?? d***

Roddi?ck?
Tennis player :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 17, 2010, 02:12:07 AM
Roddi?ck?
I see what you did there...
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 17, 2010, 09:31:30 PM
Is there a way to make it so that the personal message thing says "messages" when you have more than one, instead of "message"? Right now for me it says "Personal Messages : 4 message, 0 are new".
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Kunoichi on February 17, 2010, 11:46:12 PM
I don't know if this is the right place to post,
but there wasn't any 'help threads' around..
but in my profile, i cant change my birthdate. ><
ill type it in, save,
but it goes back to 0000-00-00.. >>;
I guess its not a big deal,
but anyone else having this issue? Dx
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 18, 2010, 01:11:11 AM
I tried changing my birthdate, and it worked alright. Did you click "Save Changes"?

Try again, and if it doesn't work this time, I don't know what's wrong. (Make sure that the date you put in is valid, too; i.e. No more than 30/31 days, 13 months, etc.)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 18, 2010, 01:12:58 AM
I tried changing my birthdate, and it worked alright. Did you click "Save Changes"?

Try again, and if it doesn't work this time, I don't know what's wrong. (Make sure that the date you put in is valid, too; i.e. No more than 30/31 days, 13 months, etc.)
There's only 12 months. ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 18, 2010, 01:15:23 AM
I tried changing my birthdate, and it worked alright. Did you click "Save Changes"?

Try again, and if it doesn't work this time, I don't know what's wrong. (Make sure that the date you put in is valid, too; i.e. No more than 30/31 days, 13 months, etc.)
There's only 12 months. ;)
That was precisely my point. Inserting a number that is over 30/31 days, or inserting 13 months will result in an error.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Kunoichi on February 18, 2010, 01:23:44 AM
I tried changing my birthdate, and it worked alright. Did you click "Save Changes"?

Try again, and if it doesn't work this time, I don't know what's wrong. (Make sure that the date you put in is valid, too; i.e. No more than 30/31 days, 13 months, etc.)
There's only 12 months. ;)
That was precisely my point. Inserting a number that is over 30/31 days, or inserting 13 months will result in an error.


.....thanks guys! xD
I tried again and I think I got the month and day backwards..
-hides- ._.;;
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: TTEchidna on February 18, 2010, 04:33:13 AM
You guys do know, on the topic of account merges, it would be just like BP/BN/BA has. The same, linked account with a global login, but nothing else would be connected. See, if I ban some asshat on BP, they could still edit BN or BA, if they have a linked account. Unfortunately... there's no real way to show it to you guys personally, since we've got an issue in GlobalAuth right now that STILL needs to be fixed.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 18, 2010, 04:37:32 AM
I still don't like the idea of merging accounts. BA/BP/BN are all part of the same server, but these three wikis are Independent, and thus should stay separate, me thinks.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 18, 2010, 08:58:32 PM
Maybe an option to link all of your usernames into one for those who would like it, like I would like with my SMW account
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 18, 2010, 08:59:44 PM
Maybe an option to link all of your usernames into one for those who would like it, like I would like with my SMW account
As I said before, you can use the interwiki links {{smw|user:Tucayo}} {{zw|user:Tucayo}} {{bp|User:Tucayo}}  :police:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 18, 2010, 09:06:58 PM
Hm, didn't see/realize that, thanks    :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 18, 2010, 09:26:46 PM
Hm, didn't see/realize that, thanks    :)
No prob  :police: AFAIK wikirby and metroid wiki dont have those yet, BTW
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: smashbrother101 on February 20, 2010, 03:19:36 AM
;D ;D Guys! I found An independant site out of Wikia! It's for Team Fortress 2!! I'll send you the link!
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 20, 2010, 03:31:28 AM
;D ;D Guys! I found An independant site out of Wikia! It's for Team Fortress 2!! I'll send you the link!
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page)
Is it a Nintendo Series?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: smashbrother101 on February 20, 2010, 03:42:16 AM
;D ;D Guys! I found An independant site out of Wikia! It's for Team Fortress 2!! I'll send you the link!
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page)
Is it a Nintendo Series?

Are we supposdly sticking strictly to Nintendo Series? I thought NIWA was about any Wiki not through the use of Wikia. But no it is not.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 20, 2010, 03:47:02 AM
;D ;D Guys! I found An independant site out of Wikia! It's for Team Fortress 2!! I'll send you the link!
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page)
Is it a Nintendo Series?

Are we supposdly sticking strictly to Nintendo Series? I thought NIWA was about any Wiki not through the use of Wikia. But no it is not.
NIWA = Nintendo Independent Wikis Alliance  :police:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: smashbrother101 on February 20, 2010, 03:49:12 AM
;D ;D Guys! I found An independant site out of Wikia! It's for Team Fortress 2!! I'll send you the link!
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Main_Page)
Is it a Nintendo Series?

Are we supposdly sticking strictly to Nintendo Series? I thought NIWA was about any Wiki not through the use of Wikia. But no it is not.
NIWA = Nintendo Independent Wikis Alliance  :police:
O_O Dang it your right!!! Oh well...

Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Ninjask on February 20, 2010, 01:39:04 PM
Why do I find this pathetically hilarious?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 22, 2010, 02:13:18 AM
Why do I find this pathetically hilarious?
Because it is.

Seriously, even if you somehow didn't know the N stands for Nintendo (what else can it stand for?)
The three wikis at the moment are all nintendo.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Lazor Shroom Midna Freak on February 22, 2010, 01:16:04 PM
Why do I find this pathetically hilarious?
Because it is.

Seriously, even if you somehow didn't know the N stands for Nintendo (what else can it stand for?)
The three wikis at the moment are all nintendo.
And even if they didn't notice THAT, all of the suggestions thus far have been Nintendo (or, in the case of Sonic, thought to be).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 22, 2010, 08:29:08 PM
Why do I find this pathetically hilarious?
Because it is.

Seriously, even if you somehow didn't know the N stands for Nintendo (what else can it stand for?)
The three wikis at the moment are all nintendo.
And even if they didn't notice THAT, all of the suggestions thus far have been Nintendo (or, in the case of Sonic, thought to be).

You are getting off topic, please get on topic  :police:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Candar on February 23, 2010, 09:01:05 PM
Perhaps this is just me, but I am a little confused about the 'meta'-ness of NIWA. Somebody want to start a thread or add a page describing why having an alliance of these wiki sites is advantageous, other than communal members?

This seems like something that might be important to discuss, since from looking at most threads most of what has been touched on thusfar has been "whats your favorite XXXXX" which is all good and well, but isnt much of a more general community draw, if you see what I mean.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 23, 2010, 10:53:13 PM
Perhaps this is just me, but I am a little confused about the 'meta'-ness of NIWA. Somebody want to start a thread or add a page describing why having an alliance of these wiki sites is advantageous, other than communal members?

This seems like something that might be important to discuss, since from looking at most threads most of what has been touched on thusfar has been "whats your favorite XXXXX" which is all good and well, but isnt much of a more general community draw, if you see what I mean.

Over the past years, we have noticed a disturbing trend in Nintendo fandoms. Where once stood friendly communities, operated by well known and well loved faces, now stand sterile places run by faceless corporate entities, whose only care for their visitors is how much advertising revenue they generate. Nowhere is this more true than with fan wikis. For the past several years, there has been a systematic attempt made by certain groups to acquire wikis of sufficient size and prominence in their respective fandoms. While some webmasters have resisted, many others have instead given themselves over. Some misled my duplicitous offers of free hosting with many more strings attached then they were ever aware, and others led astray sadly by greed, with promises of shared advertising revenues or even flat out lump sums of cash.

We seek to change this trend.

What we have said should not be misunderstood as being anti-corporate. There is certainly a place in online fandoms for corporate sponsorship, and it's true that many fansites, ourselves included, would not be able to cover their hosting bills without advertising of some sort. Nor can we blame all of those who have had to relinquish control of their communities, as the financial and technical burdens for those of us who become large are often quite significant, and there are most certainly difficulties for webmasters in forming the networks and connections they need to make enough return off their advertisements to pay for their communities.

What we do stand against is the corporate meddling in the actual day-to-day operation and management of our communities, which we feel is a detriment to our fandoms as a whole. Our feelings can be summarised thus.

* Fan communities should be run by the fans, by people whose involvement in the well-being of the community is of the emotional nature of the fan. They should not be run by those having only a purely financial investment, with no interest in the specific fandom itself.

* Fan communities should be run for the fans, by people who will take a positive interest in the fans' desires, always thinking about how they can continue to enhance the enjoyment of everyone in the community.

* Fan communities should be run together with the fans, embracing a spirit of co-operation and camaraderie in our fandoms, with friendly rivalries rather than bitter divides.

It's time we made our stand together, as fans, for the sake of the futures of our fandoms.
That stand begins now.

NIWA is a network of independent operators of Nintendo wikis, founded jointly by Bulbapedia, ZeldaWiki and Super Mario Wiki, who have banded together in the face of this threat. We hope that our example will serve as both a message, and as an example. A message that we will not take this trespass in our fandoms lying down, and an example to those of other fandoms that such a stand is possible, and worthwhile.

To those of you who seek to hold power over us, we say fear us.
To those of you without power, oppressed under the shackles of faceless shadows, we say to you seek us out, and join with us.
We are NIWA, and the seeds we plant here today will only be the start of our garden.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 23, 2010, 11:05:56 PM
Quote
We seek to change this trend.

(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/177/4/4/_clap__by_LeoLeonardo.gif) (http://leoleonardo.deviantart.com/art/clap-127051861)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Archaic on February 23, 2010, 11:45:13 PM
Just as a quick disclaimer there....that's a draft, it might not be the final version of the manifesto. ^^;
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 24, 2010, 12:00:07 AM
That manifesto put a smile on my face at the end  :laugh:

THat should be put in it;s own thread and if possible, it's own category, it's one of the most important things to NIWA if you ask me (apart from the fans and the fandom)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Candar on February 24, 2010, 12:02:58 AM
Just as a quick disclaimer there....that's a draft, it might not be the final version of the manifesto. ^^;
Answered my question just fine though  :D

Where did that come from? Archaic, since it looks like you wrote that up, i wonder if you might repost it as a separate thread and sticky it, that way people can both find it quickly and discuss it.

Edit-^
Yeah, What Level 3 said!
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Archaic on February 24, 2010, 12:08:35 AM
When it's finalised (hopefully later today), it'll get its own thread. We'll also be making a page for it linked to from the front page of the site.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 24, 2010, 12:20:24 AM
When it's finalised (hopefully later today), it'll get its own thread. We'll also be making a page for it linked to from the front page of the site.

Yeah, linking to it from the hub seems good, something about the goal of NIWA is what many users still need to realize.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Garlic Man on February 24, 2010, 12:24:43 AM
Just as a quick disclaimer there....that's a draft, it might not be the final version of the manifesto. ^^;
Answered my question just fine though  :D

Where did that come from? Archaic, since it looks like you wrote that up, i wonder if you might repost it as a separate thread and sticky it, that way people can both find it quickly and discuss it.
It came from one of the staff boards. And as he said, it'll get its own thread once finalized.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on February 24, 2010, 12:28:44 AM
It will have a page in the hub AND the thread, right? I hope we are not linking to the board from the hub, not that I dont want to, just that I think it should have its own page in the hub.  :police:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: SMB on February 25, 2010, 12:35:22 AM
It will have a page in the hub AND the thread, right? I hope we are not linking to the board from the hub, not that I dont want to, just that I think it should have its own page in the hub.  :police:
Per. I think that it will be too... Disorganized, if you will, to do that.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Level 3 on February 25, 2010, 03:05:08 AM
It will have a page in the hub AND the thread, right? I hope we are not linking to the board from the hub, not that I dont want to, just that I think it should have its own page in the hub.  :police:
Per. I think that it will be too... Disorganized, if you will, to do that.

It would, and it would be having two links from the hub to the forums, so it's own separate page will probably be for the best.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 01, 2010, 07:41:18 AM
Can you make it so that animated gifs will work as avatars?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on March 01, 2010, 09:17:35 PM
Can you make it so that animated gifs will work as avatars?
I will try to. I think I know what to change..
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 01, 2010, 09:34:12 PM
Can you make it so that animated gifs will work as avatars?
I will try to. I think I know what to change..
Yeah you better. Otherwise Kotone will never release her excitement. :'(
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on March 01, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
Can you make it so that animated gifs will work as avatars?
I will try to. I think I know what to change..
Yeah you better. Otherwise Kotone will never release her excitement. :'(
I think its ready, try reuploading it
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 01, 2010, 09:49:25 PM
Can you make it so that animated gifs will work as avatars?
I will try to. I think I know what to change..
Yeah you better. Otherwise Kotone will never release her excitement. :'(
I think its ready, try reuploading it
Still not working, I tried uploading it straight from my computer and uploaded it to Imageshack and linked. :(
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on March 01, 2010, 09:59:21 PM
Can you make it so that animated gifs will work as avatars?
I will try to. I think I know what to change..
Yeah you better. Otherwise Kotone will never release her excitement. :'(
I think its ready, try reuploading it
Still not working, I tried uploading it straight from my computer and uploaded it to Imageshack and linked. :(
Hmm... try uploading it in a size smaller than 100x100?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 01, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
Can you make it so that animated gifs will work as avatars?
I will try to. I think I know what to change..
Yeah you better. Otherwise Kotone will never release her excitement. :'(
I think its ready, try reuploading it
Still not working, I tried uploading it straight from my computer and uploaded it to Imageshack and linked. :(
Hmm... try uploading it in a size smaller than 100x100?
I'll resize it in GIMP.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on March 01, 2010, 10:32:48 PM
Can you make it so that animated gifs will work as avatars?
I will try to. I think I know what to change..
Yeah you better. Otherwise Kotone will never release her excitement. :'(
I think its ready, try reuploading it
Still not working, I tried uploading it straight from my computer and uploaded it to Imageshack and linked. :(
Hmm... try uploading it in a size smaller than 100x100?
I'll resize it in GIMP.
I now see it move ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on March 06, 2010, 08:20:52 PM
I just hatched an idea!

I was thinking of having some members be an "NIWA Operative", which they are free to join.  These members support the NIWA by helping every wiki under the NIWA name.  Instead of only editing a Kirby or Zelda wiki, they edit every NIWA wiki which needs support.  Not only will the NIWA grow as a result, but we will meet new people, and be more of a community than mostly-seperate wikis. 

Just putting it out there....
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Hotchmoney on March 06, 2010, 10:02:47 PM
I just hatched an idea!

I was thinking of having some members be an "Inner NIWA Operative", which they are free to join.  These members support the NIWA by helping every wiki under the NIWA name.  Instead of only editing a Kirby or Zelda wiki, they edit every NIWA wiki which needs support.  Not only will the NIWA grow as a result, but we will meet new people, and be more of a community than mostly-seperate wikis. 

Just putting it out there....

This would be good for both the "partial NIWA members" that need growth and the new wikis we create for series such as Smash.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on March 07, 2010, 12:29:48 AM
So far I have registered and/or edited at Zelda Wiki, WiKirby, Bulbapedia, and Lylat Wiki (not under the NIWA yet.)  I plan to register at the Super Meriod wiki, and any other wiki if they join the NIWA. 

I hope I won't be the only person editing for several different wikis (I know some of you edit at at least two).  I can see the NIWA grow threefold+ if more people join to be an "operative."
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Remino52 on March 07, 2010, 01:05:55 AM
So far I have registered and/or edited at Zelda Wiki, WiKirby, Bulbapedia, and Lylat Wiki (not under the NIWA yet.)  I plan to register at the Super Meriod wiki, and any other wiki if they join the NIWA. 

I hope I won't be the only person editing for several different wikis (I know some of you edit at at least two).  I can see the NIWA grow threefold+ if more people join to be an "operative."

The Starfox Wiki was made? Link?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on March 07, 2010, 01:25:16 AM
http://grifkuba.org/starfox/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Please be advised that it doesn't have a skin yet, and has just started out. :P
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Remino52 on March 07, 2010, 01:26:31 AM
Understood.  ;)

Anyway, back on track. :|
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: immewnity on March 08, 2010, 04:26:45 PM
About the global unification thing, there should be some way to make it optional. Also, the link thing mentioned doesn't log you in, it's just a quick link to the other page.

Also, since all these wikis are together, maybe a layout/template/style similarity would be good? Style first, though.

And NOT Wi**a style. (yes, I bleeped the w-word out.)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on March 30, 2010, 11:36:49 PM
I'm not sure about everyone else, but I still feel that we aren't quite a community yet.  Yes, there is plenty of room to add more wikis/members, but quantity isn't the answer here.  I don't know what needs to happen, but we could be more of a unit.

Also, I was thinking of, [perhaps] making a help center thread in a "Wiki Reference" section or sorts.  It would be a place where new editors ask the general wiki questions and ask for help from expirenced wiki editors.  Yes, I know wikis have thier own "Help" pages, but this would be more one-on-one, and address problems the wiki(s) couldn't answer.  [I don't know, just throwing it out there.]  {Also, this could be changed to address other things.}
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Hotchmoney on April 07, 2010, 03:04:38 AM
I'm not sure about everyone else, but I still feel that we aren't quite a community yet.  Yes, there is plenty of room to add more wikis/members, but quantity isn't the answer here.  I don't know what needs to happen, but we could be more of a unit.
    I think we need to take baby steps here. The NIWA community is almost entirely made up of the three founding members' communities (Bulbagarden, Mario Wiki, and Zelda Wiki), as Metroid Wiki and WiKirby were founded by these wikis (and you can count the number of active editors here at Wars Wiki with two hands). These three communities are well-developed and large, and, more importantly, independent. Furthermore, NIWA was formally created less than two months ago. I bet some editors don't even know NIWA exists, and that the vast majority have never been to this forum. Now I don't think the wikis are at fault: the three founding wikis are doing a good enough job of advertising NIWA's existence and linking to the other member wikis. Though this forum and the actual NIWA website could be linked to a bit more, I think that this is simply a matter of time and we just need to wait for people to trickle in and gain interest. I hope that eventually, some editors will not edit one wiki exclusively but will move between any number of NIWA wikis that they have the passion and knowledge to work on. (I think that an (optional) universal login would be necessary for this to come to fruition.) Also, we certainty don't want to disregard the existence of separate communities around each wiki; these are a very important part of the wikis and I doubt that any would want to be assimilated into a larger NIWA community.

    The best way to catalyze this behavior, in my opinion, would be through the creation of alliance-wide projects and initiatives. This "NIWA Operative" idea that Austin suggested seems like a great idea that will help raise awareness of NIWA and help the wikis greatly. However, I think this could be expanded into a series of organized, cross-wiki efforts (or "NIWAProjects") to improve NIWA wikis. There could be NIWAProjects for new, developing wikis that need more editors, NIWAProjects that focus on improving spelling, grammar, and style across all wikis, NIWAProjects that work on improving infoboxes and other templates, et cetera. NIWAProjects could be organized on the forums, have their own task forces and leadership, and co-ordinate with the leadership of NIWA wikis within the NIWAProject's scope on various levels. I think this is a really interesting idea that could build bridges between the various communities, and would like to hear what you all think about it.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on April 07, 2010, 09:04:11 PM
I have tried to advertise it in a magazine but I haven't suceeded
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on April 11, 2010, 06:45:38 PM
Is the niwa home page ever going to be updated? i mean.. a custom search engine that includes all the niwa wiki's would be helpful to put there.....i don't think it's just three wiki's anymore.

just saying.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on April 11, 2010, 11:26:04 PM
*Moved to suggestions.*
Title: Re: Ask The Admins & Mario/Zelda/Bulba/Metroid/WiKirby Staff
Post by: Tucayo on April 11, 2010, 11:30:39 PM
It is being worked on by Mel and Aiedail. We hope to have it updated soon
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on April 11, 2010, 11:53:04 PM
*Moved to suggestions.*


excuse me... i believe i am allowed to ask question in that thread.... :P

It is being worked on by Mel and Aiedail. We hope to have it updated soon

Cool, thank you for informing me.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on April 11, 2010, 11:55:43 PM
Yes you are, but not questions about how to improve the forum.  Those types of questions belong here.  If such questions were allowed on the other thread, we would have two suggestions threads... which we don't need.

I am sorry if you were confused, as I will update the "Ask The" thread accordingly.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on April 12, 2010, 04:41:49 AM
It's ok. not a problem.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on April 16, 2010, 05:19:25 PM
why don't we have spoiler tags?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on April 16, 2010, 05:26:51 PM
Because that would spoil things
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on April 16, 2010, 09:03:08 PM
I will try to install spoiler tags :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on April 24, 2010, 12:19:34 AM
is there a way to add more graphical emoticons? just as i can do mario  :mario:, i'd like to do link, fox, pikachu and ness.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on April 24, 2010, 12:44:02 AM
Don't forget Kirby, which should be indicated by :zien:.  Smilies make the world go round, afterall.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on April 24, 2010, 02:47:16 PM
I have been trying to find packages to add such smileys, but it is a little bit difficult
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on April 24, 2010, 04:02:04 PM
alright, sounds good.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on April 30, 2010, 11:34:29 PM
is there any way to get a name change?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on May 01, 2010, 01:16:38 AM
is there any way to get a name change?

My guess is yes, (via the admin control panel), but I may be wrong.  It looks like you just have to wait for an admin to respond, and if possible, I'm sure they would be happy to do it for you.

[What do you want it changed to?]
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on May 01, 2010, 03:23:19 AM
Lord Ferrok


so it matches my avatar
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on May 01, 2010, 05:38:17 PM
Changed :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Malake256 on May 17, 2010, 03:09:54 AM
I would love global accounts. If not for all of NIWA, just some, such as the tightly woven Metroid Wiki and Zelda Wiki.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Turboo on May 17, 2010, 08:16:37 PM
That's not even possible unless all of the wikis were on the same server.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on May 17, 2010, 08:28:49 PM
that how does open id work?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on May 17, 2010, 09:28:17 PM
I know you can have your userpage A on wiki A redirected to your userpage B on wiki B... but that's it.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on May 18, 2010, 12:00:30 AM
I know you can have your userpage A on wiki A redirected to your userpage B on wiki B... but that's it.
An in the MW that doesn't work....
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on May 18, 2010, 01:12:23 AM
I know you can have your userpage A on wiki A redirected to your userpage B on wiki B... but that's it.
An in the MW that doesn't work....

A lot of stuff "doesn't work" for SMW, when it does for Zelda Wiki.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on May 24, 2010, 11:34:31 PM
there I just made an account on all current wikis, though I made a slight typo on the zelda wiki
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on May 25, 2010, 01:55:01 AM
there I just made an account on all current wikis, though I made a slight typo on the zelda wiki
You can ask one of the crats to rename you :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 01, 2010, 01:53:54 AM
so when/if we get a miscellaneous wiki will it get it's own bored or will the Nintendo bored be used for it?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on June 01, 2010, 02:34:51 AM
so when/if we get a miscellaneous wiki will it get it's own bored or will the Nintendo bored be used for it?
bored lol..... We will use the board we have
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 01, 2010, 04:35:08 PM
so when/if we get a miscellaneous wiki will it get it's own bored or will the Nintendo bored be used for it?
bored lol..... We will use the board we have

yup, very bored, and why is Garlic Man always viewing the forum stats?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on June 01, 2010, 07:09:09 PM
so when/if we get a miscellaneous wiki will it get it's own bored or will the Nintendo bored be used for it?
bored lol..... We will use the board we have

yup, very bored, and why is Garlic Man always viewing the forum stats?

Why are you posting on the forums?  I see nothing wrong with watching the activity of the forums grow. :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 01, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
so when/if we get a miscellaneous wiki will it get it's own bored or will the Nintendo bored be used for it?
bored lol..... We will use the board we have

yup, very bored, and why is Garlic Man always viewing the forum stats?

Why are you posting on the forums?  I see nothing wrong with watching the activity of the forums grow. :)

It is a little odd, that he's on the "forum stats" page consistently for hours on end....


And how did he rack up nearly 50 days worth of online time? is he using an auto-refreshing browser, and then just walks away?

(no offence intended, it just bugs me that i can't figure it out).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on June 01, 2010, 10:15:03 PM
Ask him on his profile page for we are starting to go off topic.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 02, 2010, 01:59:03 AM
Ask him on his profile page for we are starting to go off topic.

I've started... but at least we are seeing activity....
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: JoJo on June 03, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
Here's a suggestion: refrain from "moving discussion to staff boards". I see it in the Gamehiker topic, and Tacopill's absence topic. What you are doing is essentially saying "your opinions don't mean anything" by doing it- let people have their say. As it stands you're stifling the activity you want so much.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 03, 2010, 01:52:54 PM
yea, no one wants to leave the impression that one group is better than the other.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on June 03, 2010, 04:11:25 PM
To make it clear, I highly disaprove that.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 03, 2010, 04:31:38 PM
To make it clear, I highly disaprove that.

wait, which part?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on June 03, 2010, 04:37:44 PM
To make it clear, I highly disaprove that.

wait, which part?
Moving posts to staff boards
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 03, 2010, 04:50:03 PM
To make it clear, I highly disaprove that.

wait, which part?
Moving posts to staff boards

Alright, i wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 03, 2010, 04:56:54 PM
are mario, zelda, etc, going to stay as child boreds or are they going to become "full" boreds at some point?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 03, 2010, 05:15:55 PM
are mario, zelda, etc, going to stay as child boreds or are they going to become "full" boreds at some point?

i believe so...at least that seems to be the trend.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: SMB on June 04, 2010, 01:14:42 AM
are mario, zelda, etc, going to stay as child boreds or are they going to become "full" boreds at some point?
I'm not exactly sure... The Forum Staff hasn't decided yet.



Here's a suggestion: refrain from "moving discussion to staff boards". I see it in the Gamehiker topic, and Tacopill's absence topic. What you are doing is essentially saying "your opinions don't mean anything" by doing it- let people have their say. As it stands you're stifling the activity you want so much.
I agree with this. The moving of posts needs to end now.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Malake256 on June 10, 2010, 03:56:37 AM
And, this is for the wikis: global login in all? Would be useful, eh?

I'm not sure about this. The one thing that would worry me is that we have some users that have accounts on two or more of the wikis... There might be some way of merging the accounts globally (I think they call it Userpering on Wikipedia). If all of the wikis would agree to that, then that would be good.
But I don't want my Bulbapedia and MarioWiki accounts merged. :(

then don't merge them. If we did have some sort of a merge function, i don't think you'd be forced to merge them.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 15, 2010, 12:55:42 AM
could we increase activity here by merging with the wikis forums? so instead of all the wikis having a forum we just have one here
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on June 15, 2010, 01:05:37 AM
TO be honest, I dont see that happening
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 15, 2010, 01:18:07 AM
TO be honest, I dont see that happening

it was just a thought
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 15, 2010, 01:50:56 AM
TO be honest, I dont see that happening

it was just a thought

And we appreciate you thinking.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on June 20, 2010, 11:46:25 AM
I can verify that would never happen. The WiKirby staff board is being ushered out of here. I expect activity to drop when it happens since 2 of the most active people in here wouldn't have mod rights anymore. Nothing I can do about it really, I was surprised to see the messages myself. So if a minor staff board isn't allowed, then a larger forum merger certainly wouldn't be.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 20, 2010, 01:51:02 PM
I can verify that would never happen. The WiKirby staff board is being ushered out of here. I expect activity to drop when it happens since 2 of the most active people in here wouldn't have mod rights anymore. Nothing I can do about it really, I was surprised to see the messages myself. So if a minor staff board isn't allowed, then a larger forum merger certainly wouldn't be.

that sucks, I like it here, just wish more people posted
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 20, 2010, 02:28:06 PM
Why are you guys being ushered out of here?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on June 20, 2010, 02:58:55 PM
just the staff board will be, we'll have to create a forum for WiKirby staff discussions. We're the first wiki without a regular discussion home and we were using a hidden board here. We'll have something up on Wikirby in a separate domain or something soon.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 21, 2010, 10:06:08 PM
what is and isn't appropriate topics for this bored? are stuff like religion and politics banned?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on June 21, 2010, 10:16:30 PM
what is and isn't appropriate topics for this bored? are stuff like religion and politics banned?
I would say yes, they are banned. Conversations about those topics never end good.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 21, 2010, 10:18:05 PM
what is and isn't appropriate topics for this bored? are stuff like religion and politics banned?
I would say yes, they are banned. Conversations about those topics never end good.

okay I checked the rules and nothing was said, just wanted to be sure, another thing, the calendar could include the release dates for games published by Nintendo
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on June 22, 2010, 02:28:17 PM
what is and isn't appropriate topics for this bored? are stuff like religion and politics banned?
I would say yes, they are banned. Conversations about those topics never end good.

okay I checked the rules and nothing was said, just wanted to be sure, another thing, the calendar could include the release dates for games published by Nintendo

Last time I tried to add something when I had the power to, the page went blank.  From what I know, nothing can be added [at this time] to the calender except for member birthdays which are added automatically.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on June 22, 2010, 02:56:36 PM
By a weird reason, only Holidays can be added
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on June 22, 2010, 02:59:20 PM
By a weird reason, only Holidays can be added

...and apprently that.  I don't even know if the calender will be looked at, so will this even be worth it?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nickno on June 24, 2010, 10:47:51 PM
I have a suggestion.
We could make a wiki about actual Nintendo hardware, like the NES-Wii, G&W's, the Game Boy line, etc. Maybe call it Wiiki, or something catchy. I would make one, but I really don't know how to make a wiki. So, maybe somebody could make one for NIWA. I just feel NIWA needs one. :)
Sorry if this idea sounds stupid. XD Just tossing around ideas and trying to help.   ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Archaic on June 24, 2010, 11:11:20 PM
It's not really ready to go public yet, that's why. ^^;
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nickno on June 24, 2010, 11:31:31 PM
It's not really ready to go public yet, that's why. ^^;
Ah, like how the Metroid and Kirby wikis were? k. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Remino52 on June 25, 2010, 12:12:09 AM
While it is still in development, I think this (and the other in-development Wikis for that matter) should be put up somewhere in the forums, these Wikis like Lylat Wiki (http://grifkuba.org/starfox/wiki/Main_Page), PKWiki (http://grifkuba.org/MotherEarthBoundWiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges), and Ace Attorney Wiki (http://linkjorge.net/aceattorney/index.php/Main_Page) are lacking activity for they don't get a lot of attention besides some links on somewhat obscure posts. Which leads me to this...

Do all the Wikis (pending or not) have a topic on the forums? I think they should for reasons mentioned above.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on June 25, 2010, 12:47:20 AM
While it is still in development, I think this (and the other in-development Wikis for that matter) should be put up somewhere in the forums, these Wikis like Lylat Wiki (http://grifkuba.org/starfox/wiki/Main_Page), PKWiki (http://grifkuba.org/MotherEarthBoundWiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges), and Ace Attorney Wiki (http://linkjorge.net/aceattorney/index.php/Main_Page) are lacking activity for they don't get a lot of attention besides some links on somewhat obscure posts. Which leads me to this...

Do all the Wikis (pending or not) have a topic on the forums? I think they should for reasons mentioned above.

They definitely have had their own threads discussioning them in staff.  As in actual boards, they are reserved for members of the NIWA. The Earthbound wiki/Ace/etc. wikis are not members yet.  However, going back to threads, you can make such threads in the NIWA board.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Remino52 on June 25, 2010, 12:52:26 AM
While it is still in development, I think this (and the other in-development Wikis for that matter) should be put up somewhere in the forums, these Wikis like Lylat Wiki (http://grifkuba.org/starfox/wiki/Main_Page), PKWiki (http://grifkuba.org/MotherEarthBoundWiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges), and Ace Attorney Wiki (http://linkjorge.net/aceattorney/index.php/Main_Page) are lacking activity for they don't get a lot of attention besides some links on somewhat obscure posts. Which leads me to this...

Do all the Wikis (pending or not) have a topic on the forums? I think they should for reasons mentioned above.

They definitely have had their own threads discussioning them in staff.  As in actual boards, they are reserved for members of the NIWA. The Earthbound wiki/Ace/etc. wikis are not members yet.  However, going back to threads, you can make such threads in the NIWA board.

Should we Stickie any topic about the Wiki if they haven't already?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on June 25, 2010, 01:03:24 AM
As much as I could, I don't like to sticky unless it's necessary.  Now, while sticking it could help it get noticed, the NIWA Discussion board has enough stickied threads as there is.  A subforum may work, but there is always the possibility that it won't be active enough to remain a subforum.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Remino52 on June 25, 2010, 01:08:55 AM
Honestly, unless we can get a more organized way to manage all the Wiki Specific-stuff, I'm not sure. I'm up for a Sub-Forum though.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on June 25, 2010, 02:27:41 AM
I have a suggestion.
We could make a wiki about actual Nintendo hardware, like the NES-Wii, G&W's, the Game Boy line, etc. Maybe call it Wiiki, or something catchy. I would make one, but I really don't know how to make a wiki. So, maybe somebody could make one for NIWA. I just feel NIWA needs one. :)
Sorry if this idea sounds stupid. XD Just tossing around ideas and trying to help.   ::)

that could go in the miscellaneous wiki
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Remino52 on June 25, 2010, 03:24:33 AM
I have a suggestion.
We could make a wiki about actual Nintendo hardware, like the NES-Wii, G&W's, the Game Boy line, etc. Maybe call it Wiiki, or something catchy. I would make one, but I really don't know how to make a wiki. So, maybe somebody could make one for NIWA. I just feel NIWA needs one. :)
Sorry if this idea sounds stupid. XD Just tossing around ideas and trying to help.   ::)

that could go in the miscellaneous wiki

Didn't a link to a Wiki that was going to have that kind of content just get posted today? I can't find it though...
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on June 25, 2010, 10:23:29 AM
I've been thinking about this. I think we've been misusing the Alliance Requests thread. Let's reserve that one for existing wikis like Wars Wiki and GameHiker. They were around for a long time before NIWA. For startups from members of this forum we could have the NIWA Maternity Ward.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 25, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
It's not really ready to go public yet, that's why. ^^;

what's not ready to go public?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: SMB on June 25, 2010, 09:23:55 PM
I've been thinking about this. I think we've been misusing the Alliance Requests thread. Let's reserve that one for existing wikis like Wars Wiki and GameHiker. They were around for a long time before NIWA. For startups from members of this forum we could have the NIWA Maternity Ward.
Here's my opinion on things:
The Alliance Request thread seems pretty active, as well as some other threads about incoming, pending, invited, considered, whatever wikis

Although this might have been the original suggestion, why don't we create a child board for all of the requests for affiliation or adding members in that board, and keep NIWA Discussion specifically for topics concerning the member-wikis, NIWA itself, and its forum?



In the child board for affiliation and suggestions for adding a member to NIWA, we could have each wiki have its own topic and then be able to sticky some as well. It would all work out.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on June 26, 2010, 01:09:44 AM
It's not really ready to go public yet, that's why. ^^;

what's not ready to go public?

I think the post I made with the link got deleted.  Anyways, if so, you'll find out soon enough.  (If you don't already know.)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 26, 2010, 11:49:20 PM
Quote from: ????  link=topic=43.msg5220#msg5220 date=1277514584
It's not really ready to go public yet, that's why. ^^;

what's not ready to go public?

I think the post I made with the link got deleted.  Anyways, if so, you'll find out soon enough.  (If you don't already know.)


k?  ???

Anyway, these sound like good ideas.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on June 27, 2010, 02:45:50 AM
It's not really ready to go public yet, that's why. ^^;

what's not ready to go public?

I think the post I made with the link got deleted.  Anyways, if so, you'll find out soon enough.  (If you don't already know.)


k?  ???

Anyway, these sound like good ideas.


It wasn't me, but it was likely deleted for security reasons.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on June 28, 2010, 05:42:24 AM
All of you starting or wanting to start a wiki for NIWA membership, pm me now! I'm going to write up a general strategy for new wikis and if you can't access the staff board, I'll need an email addy to contact you on. I'll maintain a Google Doc so you can see the New Wiki Roadmap, or whatever we call it when it is done. The plan will of course be optional, but if followed should be a major help to get going, get NIWA membership, and somewhere down the road become a successful wiki.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Remino52 on July 19, 2010, 10:05:51 PM
Have you gotten any requests so far by any chance?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: smashbrother101 on August 13, 2010, 11:31:39 AM
I don't know if this had already been suggested, but there is an enourmous wiki (on wikia) called smash wiki. Maybe we could get them to split from wikia and join NIWA Technically smash bros. is a nintendo game so I think that this would be a valid wiki.  ;D here's the link: super-smash-bros.wikia.com/
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on August 13, 2010, 02:23:45 PM
I must be blind, how do I contact an admin on zelda wiki? and now do I look up old news articles? specifically the one about Nintendo powers recent guide
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Justin on August 13, 2010, 04:41:01 PM
I must be blind, how do I contact an admin on zelda wiki? and now do I look up old news articles? specifically the one about Nintendo powers recent guide

The RSS feed is hosted here (http://zrss.stonewatchers.org/newsfeeds/?f=rss&zflist=Zelda+Wiki.org+Feed).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on August 13, 2010, 07:58:36 PM
I don't know if this had already been suggested, but there is an enourmous wiki (on wikia) called smash wiki. Maybe we could get them to split from wikia and join NIWA Technically smash bros. is a nintendo game so I think that this would be a valid wiki.  ;D here's the link: super-smash-bros.wikia.com/
We're trying to do so ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Ghost Jam on August 13, 2010, 09:43:50 PM
Forgive me if this has already been mentioned (I haven't had a chance to get myself fully up to speed on events), but Animal Crossing Wiki (http://animalcrossing.wikia.com/wiki/Animal_Crossing_Wiki) might be a good addition to the garden. I've been following their progress for a few weeks now and they are showing much potential.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on August 13, 2010, 10:11:49 PM
Forgive me if this has already been mentioned (I haven't had a chance to get myself fully up to speed on events), but Animal Crossing Wiki (http://animalcrossing.wikia.com/wiki/Animal_Crossing_Wiki) might be a good addition to the garden. I've been following their progress for a few weeks now and they are showing much potential.
Ohai GJ! Well, the main problem is that that AC Wiki is part of Wikia, hence, is not independent. We have been in talks with Yoshario's AC Wiki, and other AC wiki
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Ghost Jam on August 14, 2010, 01:36:00 AM
Forgive me if this has already been mentioned (I haven't had a chance to get myself fully up to speed on events), but Animal Crossing Wiki (http://animalcrossing.wikia.com/wiki/Animal_Crossing_Wiki) might be a good addition to the garden. I've been following their progress for a few weeks now and they are showing much potential.
Ohai GJ! Well, the main problem is that that AC Wiki is part of Wikia, hence, is not independent. We have been in talks with Yoshario's AC Wiki, and other AC wiki

^_^ Good to see you!

Ah, I see. I should familiarizer myself with policy before I try to do any more. Excuse me for a bit, I'm going to do that right now.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: jdj on August 18, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
SMASH WIKI it has teh smash bros
pikmin wiki it has teh pikmin
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Moydow on August 18, 2010, 03:36:16 PM
SMASH WIKI it has teh smash bros
pikmin wiki it has teh pikmin
Wikia: NOT ALLOWED. If they chose to secede from Wikia, and set up their own servers, they may be allowed. Anyway, the plan is either to try and get Smash Wikia to do so, or set up our own.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on August 18, 2010, 04:06:42 PM
SMASH WIKI it has teh smash bros
pikmin wiki it has teh pikmin

and please...no leet speak.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Moydow on August 18, 2010, 04:09:15 PM
SMASH WIKI it has teh smash bros
pikmin wiki it has teh pikmin

and please...no leet speak.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on August 18, 2010, 09:17:28 PM
SMASH WIKI it has teh smash bros
pikmin wiki it has teh pikmin

and please...no leet speak.
Agreed.
What did that mean, anyways?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: jdj on August 18, 2010, 09:42:40 PM
dang it now i have too google everything
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on August 18, 2010, 10:19:25 PM
dang it now i have too google everything

why?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on September 17, 2010, 08:36:25 PM
Is it possible to allow users to edit their own posts on their profile and on a profile of another?  I may add something if something was unclear, but for now, I would have to make another comment for it.  (I am not asking for permission to edit other people's as well, just the user's would be fine.   Besides,  there's hardly a need to moderate profiles.)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on September 17, 2010, 09:58:31 PM
AFAIK it's not possible.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on September 18, 2010, 01:25:43 AM
AFAIK it's not possible.

"AFAIK"?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on September 18, 2010, 01:32:11 AM
AFAIK it's not possible.

"AFAIK"?
As Far As I Know
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Turboo on September 27, 2010, 01:51:40 AM
<turb>   i was going to propose that we allow series that have the majority of their games on nintendo consoles in
<Fassad>   I agree
<turb>   not counting ports and rereleases
<Fassad>   Mega Man would be one
<Fassad>   Sonic, maybe?
<turb>   this would allow b-kwiki in too
<Fassad>   yes
<turb>   maybe sonic
<turb>   aawiki was only allowed because it got through the loophole since the non-nintendo games were ports
<turb>   i don't think wikis should need to cut it that close
<Fassad>   Mhm
<Fassad>   I agree

Opinions?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Gamefreak75 on September 27, 2010, 01:54:25 AM
I whole-heartedly agree with this.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on September 27, 2010, 02:05:37 AM
I like the idea. We shouldn't be too elitist
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on September 27, 2010, 02:55:34 AM
i prefer we stick with Nintendo series, but since I'm out voted I guess I'll go with it, just as long as sonic isn't in
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on September 27, 2010, 02:58:26 AM
<turb>   i was going to propose that we allow series that have the majority of their games on nintendo consoles in
<Fassad>   I agree
<turb>   not counting ports and rereleases
<Fassad>   Mega Man would be one
<Fassad>   Sonic, maybe?
<turb>   this would allow b-kwiki in too
<Fassad>   yes
<turb>   maybe sonic
<turb>   aawiki was only allowed because it got through the loophole since the non-nintendo games were ports
<turb>   i don't think wikis should need to cut it that close
<Fassad>   Mhm
<Fassad>   I agree

Opinions?

agreed.... eventually we will be IWA!  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tappy on October 01, 2010, 09:13:36 PM
... or Wikia Anonymous. But I agree with Turboo's post.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Malake256 on October 01, 2010, 11:29:40 PM
ORRR we could accept any type of nintendo-related wiki and still be called NIWA...
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on October 01, 2010, 11:33:12 PM
We have discussed, as a staff, these possibilities. I've never been opposed to allowing mostly-Nintendo Wikis from joining, but there are some purists among us who are opposed. It's something we have to all decide - are we Hardline Nintendo-only, or not? Are we moving to eventually become "IWA" to be all-inclusive? These are important things to decide.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on October 01, 2010, 11:41:08 PM
ORRR we could accept any type of nintendo-related wiki and still be called NIWA...

I'm with him
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 02, 2010, 12:31:22 AM
i'm not trying to be purest, i am just not a fan of misnomers. If we are NIWA, then we should focus on Nintendo-wikis.

If we choose to open up to all wiki's (which i am totally for, btw) then we should change our name to reflect that.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on October 02, 2010, 12:40:02 AM
What I meant was the rejection of Wikis such as Fantendo and Rare Witch Project.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 02, 2010, 12:43:57 AM
What I meant was the rejection of Wikis such as Fantendo and Rare Witch Project.

Ah. I am not familiar with such events happening.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Archaic on October 02, 2010, 02:29:24 AM
I'm personally of the opinion that NIWA is NIWA. Rather than expanding NIWA to become all inclusive, I'd rather make an umbrella organisation for more general things, with NIWA being one of several "cells" of wiki groups under that umbrella organisation.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 02, 2010, 02:31:43 AM
I'm personally of the opinion that NIWA is NIWA. Rather than expanding NIWA to become all inclusive, I'd rather make an umbrella organisation for more general things, with NIWA being one of several "cells" of wiki groups under that umbrella organisation.

Actually i agree with that. It is why i want to start a Final Fantasy one sometime in Mid - late 2011 (once i have money).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on October 02, 2010, 03:19:54 AM
I'm personally of the opinion that NIWA is NIWA. Rather than expanding NIWA to become all inclusive, I'd rather make an umbrella organisation for more general things, with NIWA being one of several "cells" of wiki groups under that umbrella organisation.

so a Nintendo group or wikis, and a Square Enix group of wikis, and so forth?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 02, 2010, 03:52:28 AM
yes. persisly (spelling?).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on October 02, 2010, 04:13:26 AM
As I've said before, I think that's silly. It's overcomplicated and it's honestly dreaming bigger than we are, or even have close to the capability of achieving. Let's be NIWA first, before we start talking about what we'll be after that. We've hardly begun on being NIWA.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 02, 2010, 04:23:13 AM
As I've said before, I think that's silly. It's overcomplicated and it's honestly dreaming bigger than we are, or even have close to the capability of achieving. Let's be NIWA first, before we start talking about what we'll be after that. We've hardly begun on being NIWA.

of course. No one said these are short term goals, or even long term ones.  They are merely suggestions. (Except the FF Alignment. i actually want to do that).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Gamefreak75 on October 02, 2010, 04:42:06 AM
Well, I actually wanted to do the Mega Man Wiki or Sonic Wiki to be honest.

P.S. I am the one called Fassad in that conversation in case you didn't know.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 02, 2010, 04:48:38 AM
Well, I actually wanted to do the Mega Man Wiki or Sonic Wiki to be honest.

P.S. I am the one called Fassad in that conversation in case you didn't know.

I could help you with either of those topics, or both. I just have to make sure i renew my web account, or pick up a new one, by the 28th of December. That is when my contract expires.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on October 02, 2010, 03:08:41 PM
Also, changing name from NIWA to IWA is not that easy, seeing as NIWA has a meaning, it emans garden, the letter behind it mean garden, and we are like a Wiki Garden
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tina on October 02, 2010, 03:38:20 PM
IWA would mean we ROCK, though!

...Get it? Because... iwa means rock in Japanese...? 8D

There's also always changing the N to something else. Can't really think of anything, though.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 02, 2010, 03:56:28 PM
...Get it? Because... iwa means rock in Japanese...? 8D



 :laugh: :D
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Metechar on October 10, 2010, 05:43:29 PM
Even though IWA means rock,we are still a garden of Wikis. We DO rock,but still,NIWA makes more sense since IWA would be based on our opinions. And this may be off topic,but I think we really need an Animal Crossing Wiki in NIWA. Seriously...we don't need more Pikmin Wikis. Two is enough  >:( but anyways,I think we shouldn't allow any non-Nintendo wikis into the group. A Perfect Dark Wiki is OK,even though I never played the game before,but it's published by Nintendo. Any Wikis on games worked on by Nintendo is fine in my opinion.And we REALLY need an Animal Crossing Wiki! :eekdance:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 10, 2010, 05:48:31 PM
Even though IWA means rock,we are still a garden of Wikis. We DO rock,but still,NIWA makes more sense since IWA would be based on our opinions. And this may be off topic,but I think we really need an Animal Crossing Wiki in NIWA. Seriously...we don't need more Pikmin Wikis. Two is enough  >:( but anyways,I think we shouldn't allow any non-Nintendo wikis into the group. A Perfect Dark Wiki is OK,even though I never played the game before,but it's published by Nintendo. Any Wikis on games worked on by Nintendo is fine in my opinion.And we REALLY need an Animal Crossing Wiki! :eekdance:

We got an up-and-coming AC Wiki (http://animalcrossingforums.net/wiki/index.php?title=Animal_Crossing_Wiki).  Also, See this link (http://niwanetwork.org/affiliates.html)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Gamefreak75 on October 10, 2010, 06:35:53 PM
Seriously...we don't need more Pikmin Wikis. Two is enough  >:(
Uhh...what?!

Did you know that one of them is canon (real) and the other is fanon (fake/where users make up their own ideas for Pikmin games)? If not, now you know that they are TWO Pikmin wikis, but NOT entirely the same. ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on October 12, 2010, 10:05:36 PM
Anyone ever heard of Rock Gardening? :P
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 12, 2010, 10:18:55 PM
Anyone ever heard of Rock Gardening? :P

nope. is that a band?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tina on October 12, 2010, 10:31:21 PM
Anyone ever heard of Rock Gardening? :P

Hahahaaaa. Best of both worlds!

It's a type of garden with mostly special rocks over plants.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 12, 2010, 11:03:02 PM
Anyone ever heard of Rock Gardening? :P

Hahahaaaa. Best of both worlds!

It's a type of garden with mostly special rocks over plants.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Metechar on October 16, 2010, 02:23:06 PM
I have these wiki suggestions to invite into NIWA or make one:Animal Crossing Wiki,Fire Emblem,Golden Sun,and Chibi Robo wikis. Anyone here agree?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Moydow on October 16, 2010, 02:35:49 PM
We already have Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing wikis in the pipeline, see Affiliates (http://www.niwanetwork.org/affiliates.html). As for the others, I've heard plans for them, but nothing concrete that I know of.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 16, 2010, 04:05:27 PM
I am interesting in stating a golden sun wiki, but can't do it at the moment.

And i think Turtwig A (who is not a member of the forums, but a memeber of many of NIWA's wikis) wants to start a Chibi Robot wiki.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on October 16, 2010, 08:19:23 PM
I don't see why NIWA can't accept non-Nintendo wikis and still keep the name NIWA. 7-Eleven keeps its name even though most of them are now open 24 hours; 20th Century Fox never renamed itself to 21st Century Fox; and KFC is still known as KFC despite now being available outside of Kentucky. Those are just some of many, many examples. A change in a company's - or organization's - direction rarely leads to a name change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_company_name_etymologies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_company_name_etymologies)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on October 16, 2010, 08:28:43 PM
We want a larger network, but we can't be the ones to create and maintain it all. PC Game Wikis, Xbox Game Wikis, PS Game Wikis, etc should unite on their own terms. Shape their organization and NIWA will be a sibling group to that.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 16, 2010, 08:55:33 PM
I don't see why NIWA can't accept non-Nintendo wikis and still keep the name NIWA. 7-Eleven keeps its name even though most of them are now open 24 hours; 20th Century Fox never renamed itself to 21st Century Fox; and KFC is still known as KFC despite now being available outside of Kentucky. Those are just some of many, many examples. A change in a company's - or organization's - direction rarely leads to a name change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_company_name_etymologies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_company_name_etymologies)

I'm not a fan of minomers. If we have Nintendo in the name, then we should be nintendo focused.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on October 17, 2010, 01:13:31 AM
TBH, I think you should contact Archaic himself about this.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 17, 2010, 02:01:03 AM
TBH, I think you should contact Archaic himself about this.

to whom are you referring to?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on October 17, 2010, 02:05:28 AM
To Vince
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on October 17, 2010, 04:13:13 PM
I fully understand that NIWA is not aiming to be an all-inclusive wiki network at this time. I'm not saying it should be or it shouldn't be in the future; I have no firm opinion regarding that.

I'm just saying that no one should take a position on this matter based solely on the name of this organization.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Archaic on October 17, 2010, 10:22:27 PM
The larger a wiki organisation is, the less that could actually be done within that organisation without things turning into a Wikia and getting oppressive with requirements, etc. Personally, I'm of the opinion that if we were to ever expand beyond Nintendo, it wouldn't be under the NIWA banner. NIWA would remain in existence, as a separate group, and NIWA members wouldn't be obliged to join whatever larger umbrella organisation was set up. In the best case scenario I think, all we'd do would be to get together with whatever other groups set themselves up (there's already one for Sega games) and have something like a roundtable, with representatives of each.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 17, 2010, 10:36:19 PM
i am still working on the name, but i want to eventually help form the "United Wikis of Fiction", where each wiki group is allowed representation & membership, and each group is defined by 1) a united idea that brings together multiple wikis  AND/OR 2) the same language. So, for example:

* NIWA would be a member because it (at the moment) has english-only, Nintendo-focused wikis.
* Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis would be a member since it is multiple languages, but all focused on Pokémon.


Of course, this would also mean we would need a Spanish-focused NIWA, and an inter-language Zelda Association (http://www.niwanetwork.org/wiki/index.php/Zelda_Wiki) (with the primary language being "Hyrulean").
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Seritinajii on October 18, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
The larger a wiki organisation is, the less that could actually be done within that organisation without things turning into a Wikia and getting oppressive with requirements, etc. Personally, I'm of the opinion that if we were to ever expand beyond Nintendo, it wouldn't be under the NIWA banner. NIWA would remain in existence, as a separate group, and NIWA members wouldn't be obliged to join whatever larger umbrella organisation was set up. In the best case scenario I think, all we'd do would be to get together with whatever other groups set themselves up (there's already one for Sega games) and have something like a roundtable, with representatives of each.

What's this Sega game network?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on October 18, 2010, 06:10:25 AM
http://www.segaretro.org/Main_Page
I just approached them about working with NIWA.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KenAkuma on October 21, 2010, 03:35:46 AM
Their should be a countdown for the new donkey kong game coming out and it should probably be posted in the Mario wiki!

I love clicking on the countdowns every day and seeing them go down  :laugh:

Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on October 21, 2010, 08:44:15 PM
I'll suggest that to the other admins :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on October 21, 2010, 09:34:19 PM
Is it possible to create a wiki that incorporates the articles of all the other wikis? Basically an all-inclusive Nintendo-wiki so that I could enter something into the search bar and articles from any sub-wiki could show up?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on October 21, 2010, 10:10:15 PM
You can create your own custom search bar for Firefox at least. Others could download it too. All you do is add the sites you want it to search and it'll search all of those and possibly others.. It's been a while since I've done it.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Archaic on October 21, 2010, 10:12:19 PM
Is it possible to create a wiki that incorporates the articles of all the other wikis? Basically an all-inclusive Nintendo-wiki so that I could enter something into the search bar and articles from any sub-wiki could show up?

Something like that may be down the pipeline in the future, however it would work by redirecting you to that source wiki and its article, rather than actually displaying an article directly.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on October 22, 2010, 02:43:47 AM
Yeah, that's basically what I'm talking about. It's nice to know that it's being looked into, and I'll definitely be looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Scarred Sun on October 24, 2010, 06:23:59 PM
http://www.segaretro.org/Main_Page
I just approached them about working with NIWA.

o hi der

In all honesty, I have to say I agree somewhat with those who were talking earlier about the relative segregation of the network--there's something inherently strange about a Sega site being part of a Nintendo network.

Besides, doing so would imply that all that 90s advertising about the two companies being arch-rivals would be wrong. (http://ss.sonicretro.org/emot-ssh.gif)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 24, 2010, 07:17:22 PM
i agree.... but what about a Sega-based NIWA-like organization?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on October 24, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
http://www.segaretro.org/Main_Page
I just approached them about working with NIWA.

o hi der

In all honesty, I have to say I agree somewhat with those who were talking earlier about the relative segregation of the network--there's something inherently strange about a Sega site being part of a Nintendo network.

Besides, doing so would imply that all that 90s advertising about the two companies being arch-rivals would be wrong. (http://ss.sonicretro.org/emot-ssh.gif)

Glad you came Scarred Sun! I was getting worried that it would be a lost cause. In any case, We know there's Sega Retro, Sonic Retro, and SonicTheWiki... not sure of any other Sega-based Wikis (Super Monkey Ball, Ecco, etc) out there, but I'll bet some of the Dreamcast RPG series have strong followings. I think you would be the best person to organize a Sega Wiki Network, which could be an affiliate of NIWA. I'd imagine it would be easier to expand the SGNW than to create something new.

As far as NIWA's involvement in it, I'd imagine people that play those titles and ports on the Nintendo consoles would be pleased to cross over and edit. But I think we'd all agree that NIWA wouldn't have any control there.  We'd help you out where possible, general wiki stuffs, traffic, etc. I'm thinking if we schedule monthly roundtable discussions among the two groups we could keep an non-intrusive distance and still have a mutually beneficial partnership.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Scarred Sun on October 29, 2010, 02:39:30 PM
http://www.segaretro.org/Main_Page
I just approached them about working with NIWA.

o hi der

In all honesty, I have to say I agree somewhat with those who were talking earlier about the relative segregation of the network--there's something inherently strange about a Sega site being part of a Nintendo network.

Besides, doing so would imply that all that 90s advertising about the two companies being arch-rivals would be wrong. (http://ss.sonicretro.org/emot-ssh.gif)

Glad you came Scarred Sun! I was getting worried that it would be a lost cause. In any case, We know there's Sega Retro, Sonic Retro, and SonicTheWiki... not sure of any other Sega-based Wikis (Super Monkey Ball, Ecco, etc) out there, but I'll bet some of the Dreamcast RPG series have strong followings. I think you would be the best person to organize a Sega Wiki Network, which could be an affiliate of NIWA. I'd imagine it would be easier to expand the SGNW than to create something new.

As far as NIWA's involvement in it, I'd imagine people that play those titles and ports on the Nintendo consoles would be pleased to cross over and edit. But I think we'd all agree that NIWA wouldn't have any control there.  We'd help you out where possible, general wiki stuffs, traffic, etc. I'm thinking if we schedule monthly roundtable discussions among the two groups we could keep an non-intrusive distance and still have a mutually beneficial partnership.

The main problem with doing anything Sega and wiki-related is that, as a whole, the Sega community is nowhere near as organized as the Nintendo community, and there's a variety of reasons behind that. SGNW is basically those of us who haven't let their site rot into obscurity. That's about all that connects us. That, and what wikis do exist are almost always farmed.

That being said, I'd at least be happy to meet with you guys occasionally, as it seems I've been doing this Mediawiki nonsense for far longer than most of you (6 years!) and at least may be able to help you out if needed.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on October 29, 2010, 05:15:22 PM
well, it takes many years to get organized like it was before niwa; with the creation of niwa, we have intensified those connections and expanded out towards new ones.

Are there any other sega-wikis you are aware of? if not, what sega franchises would you think would be suitable for a wiki?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: TurtwigA on November 04, 2010, 01:58:20 AM
Don't know if this has been suggested, but a gaming forum of sorts for things like Werewolf/Mafia and games such as the one where you corrupt wishes. Maybe a subforum of the lounge?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on November 04, 2010, 02:06:34 AM
That is not something we have planned at the moment.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 04, 2010, 02:08:35 AM
That is not something we have planned at the moment.

not planned, but could it be done?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on November 04, 2010, 02:20:47 AM
Don't know if this has been suggested, but a gaming forum of sorts for things like Werewolf/Mafia and games such as the one where you corrupt wishes. Maybe a subforum of the lounge?

I like this idea. I got into this game when a couple of my friends taught it to me earlier this year. It's really fun, and I'd love to play it with the rest of the NIWA Community.

It shouldn't be too hard. A Child Board could be created, and the players could set it up themselves.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on November 04, 2010, 02:28:08 AM
I will bring that up to the rest of the staff
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on November 13, 2010, 01:16:46 AM
how about a more interesting rank system? Jr member, member, Sr member is boring
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: TurtwigA on November 13, 2010, 01:58:18 AM
Is anything ever going to be done with the Lottery section of the shop? Right now, it hasn't actually been used.
how about a more interesting rank system? Jr member, member, Sr member is boring
There's actually more beyond that. Hero Member and Nintendo Master go beyond Sr. Member. I think Hero Member is gained at 1,000 posts and Nintendo Master is gained at 10,000.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on November 13, 2010, 04:39:32 PM
Actually Hero is at 500 and Nintendo master at 1,000


You can suggest ranks if you want


Also, about the lottery, it is broken, it looks
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 13, 2010, 05:25:23 PM
sweet, i'm only 162 161 away from being a master.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on November 13, 2010, 05:37:03 PM
sweet, i'm only 162 161 away from being a master.

I remember when you were only 100 posts above me
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 13, 2010, 11:15:38 PM
yea, good times. good times.

842!
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on November 20, 2010, 01:02:57 AM
the spoiler tags misspelled hidden as "hiden"
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 20, 2010, 03:17:41 AM
the spoiler tags misspelled hidden as "hiden"

all these months, i have been mislead.....

Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on November 24, 2010, 01:28:58 AM
the spoiler tags misspelled hidden as "hiden"

I told Tappy about that a long time ago, but he can't fix it since other stuff breaks with it. I just quit using them because I hate misspelled simple words so much.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 02:28:01 AM
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I saw in a post by Jake of AC Wiki, that you can change the words of the spoiler marker.

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Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on November 24, 2010, 05:23:06 AM
Is there a way to hide forum topics that have not been active for a certain amount of time? For example, if I don't want topics to appear that have not had any new replies in over a month. I've seen it on many other forums but I don't think there is an option here.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 05:29:11 AM
not that i am aware of.

However, A method i am aware of is moving the topic into archives. But a forums admin needs to that. We can still recommend ones in pms, though.....
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on November 24, 2010, 05:33:06 AM
Hmm... but that sounds like it will affect everyone, and I'm guessing each person has different preferences.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 05:37:10 AM
Hmm... but that sounds like it will affect everyone, and I'm guessing each person has different preferences.

how would that effect everyone?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on November 24, 2010, 05:42:18 AM
If an admin moves a topic to the archives, won't it become hidden for all forum members?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 24, 2010, 05:50:03 AM
not if the archives are publicly viewable. Just no one can post to the threads there.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Malake256 on November 24, 2010, 04:04:48 PM
No he means, like for him. No there is not a way that you can yourself like delete a post or hide it from your own view. The only option there is archiving. Which someone should do in the public forums..
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Koroku on November 24, 2010, 04:55:58 PM
It's not a SMF feature. One of the reasons I never cared for the system myself.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on November 26, 2010, 08:01:12 PM
so I take it Donkey Kong won't get it's own bored and continue to share with Mario?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 26, 2010, 09:36:30 PM
so I take it Donkey Kong won't get it's own bored and continue to share with Mario?

no forums admin to care of it. I will notify an admin of this.

Done: http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?board=31.0.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on November 26, 2010, 11:19:07 PM
We had a discussion where it was decided that boards would be shared
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on November 27, 2010, 02:00:43 AM
We had a discussion where it was decided that boards would be shared

i don't remember this discussion.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on November 27, 2010, 04:32:31 PM
It was somewhere around, but I can't find it, so meh
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Muppy on December 01, 2010, 10:34:32 AM
The front page is getting cluttered up, any chance of a redesign?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on December 01, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
IIRC the v3 of the hub was going to be made some time around December-January
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Koroku on December 01, 2010, 08:48:38 PM
Yeah, the current main page doesn't really do a good job of listing everyone fairly. :S
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Greenpickle on December 01, 2010, 09:11:22 PM
Isn't it alphabetical (...even 'n' for 'new'...)?  What do you want, smaller images so they all fit on the first screen?  Randomised order?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: TurtwigA on December 01, 2010, 09:18:51 PM
I think a different layout. For example, the first days of NIWA had the three wikis as a hexagon. In the middle was a link to the forums, and the three wikis were put around it, and the names of their series across from the wiki describing them. I think something more like a wiki should be put into it, with stuff like wiki markup cleverly remade into whatever coding it uses.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on December 01, 2010, 09:23:05 PM
Perhaps a drop down, or something.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Greenpickle on December 01, 2010, 09:58:19 PM
So that every wiki is hidden when you first view the page?  Sounds great.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on December 01, 2010, 10:02:01 PM
Relax man, it was what was at the top of my head. V3 will come when it needs to come.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on December 01, 2010, 10:13:48 PM
Why not just widen the current layout to four or five across?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Greenpickle on December 01, 2010, 10:35:06 PM
Yeah, it must be safe to go wider than 800 by now.  5 would go over 1000, but 4 should be fine.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Koroku on December 02, 2010, 08:13:07 AM
Randomised order?
That'd be cool. Keep the same layout, but have the icons randomize in order. Because right now, I bet 90% of people will have already clicked somewhere by the time ZeldaWiki's image comes up~
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Muppy on December 02, 2010, 12:10:53 PM
Why not just widen the current layout to four or five across?
This. Four would especially look nice now that there are 16 icons. (though that probably won't last for long)

Randomized order also sounds good.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on December 02, 2010, 05:35:36 PM
4-in-a-row sounds good, especially with this one being #16 - a perfect square and a power of 2!
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on December 02, 2010, 05:40:29 PM
Ok, I'll bring this suggestions up in the Staff Boards
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on December 08, 2010, 10:47:52 PM
Is there something planned for NIWA's first birthday? It's coming up right?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on December 09, 2010, 05:33:36 AM
Is there something planned for NIWA's first birthday? It's coming up right?

nothing i am aware of. Do you have any suggestions what we should do?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Maxite on December 09, 2010, 05:42:06 AM
Add some new forum sections. Expand the Lounge to have a Forum Games section/subsection?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on December 09, 2010, 06:27:38 AM
Add some new forum sections. Expand the Lounge to have a Forum Games section/subsection?

are those general suggestions, or Anniversary ones?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Maxite on December 09, 2010, 06:55:08 AM
Well, it's not specifically anniversary, but updating the forums to be a bit nicer/more expansive as part of an "Anniversary Bash" wouldn't be a terrible thing. Might be a good time to do a site redesign that was talked about earlier. A new year, a new look.

If you're expecting Anniversary-specific suggestions, I really don't have any that would exactly be feasible. Some older communities I was in had "Spirit Weeks", but I'm not too sure how a wiki community would host a Spirit Week.

Another (non-anniversary related) suggestion I do have is maybe we should start trying to back/support various charities. TheSpeedGamers are well known and respected, and while they aren't exclusive to playing Nintendo video games, a lot of their fundraisers have covered Nintendo games (they have an annual Pokemon fundraiser, and they've done Mother/Earthbound in the past year as well). If nothing else, it'd be nice to see a link somewhere to them.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on December 14, 2010, 03:25:22 PM
I suggest this (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=664.msg12820#msg12820). Even though, it wouldn't be done by the wiki staff; it could be fun for the regular editors/viewers.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on December 16, 2010, 03:03:34 AM
I suggest this (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=664.msg12820#msg12820). Even though, it wouldn't be done by the wiki staff; it could be fun for the regular editors/viewers.

This is true.  :eekdance:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Maxite on December 16, 2010, 03:53:29 AM
I'd be willing to provide a prize for the competition.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on December 16, 2010, 04:19:14 AM
I'd be willing to provide a prize for the competition.

How about a VC/Wii Ware game of there choice?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on December 16, 2010, 04:25:13 AM
Well I was thinking to just have some cool looking award images. Nothing major, since it would be an award to the wiki, unless you guys have something else in mind. If so, that's cool.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on December 16, 2010, 04:31:05 AM
How do I make links here? Using words and not just a url.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Axiomist on December 16, 2010, 04:39:05 AM
type: [   url  =    link    ]    Word you want [  /    url   ]
without any spaces. I had to space it out so it wouldn't work example:

[   url   =    https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-category-details/a/18501.do   ]  New Epic Yarn patches from Club Nintendo   [     /url    ]
makes:

New Epic Yarn patches from Club Nintendo (https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-category-details/a/18501.do)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on December 16, 2010, 04:40:24 AM
type: [   url  =    link    ]    Word you want [  /    url   ]
without any spaces. I had to space it out so it wouldn't work example:

[   url   =    https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-category-details/a/18501.do   ]  New Epic Yarn patches from Club Nintendo   [     /url    ]
makes:

New Epic Yarn patches from Club Nintendo (https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-category-details/a/18501.do)

oops I had it backwards, and I want those Kirby things, but I only have 20 coines
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on December 16, 2010, 06:52:51 AM
I'd be willing to provide a prize for the competition.

How about a VC/Wii Ware game of there choice?

Would a Wii Points card be more practical?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Maxite on December 16, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
A Wii Points card? I'll have to check once I get all my finances straight, as I can't find one for cheaper than $20.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Malake256 on December 17, 2010, 01:22:54 AM
Wii Point cards would be convenient, no shipping involved, simply buy a card and give the code to someone else.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on December 17, 2010, 02:34:12 AM
Wii Point cards would be convenient, no shipping involved, simply buy a card and give the code to someone else.

remember you can gift games as well
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on December 17, 2010, 07:29:35 PM
Wii Point cards would be convenient, no shipping involved, simply buy a card and give the code to someone else.

remember you can gift games as well

true, but can that go across regions? (I actually don't know)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tina on December 19, 2010, 10:24:24 PM
I'm sure this has probably been mentioned in the thread in the past, but I figure I would voice my opinion just this once... right?

Anyway. I think we should encourage members to post on the forums about their current projects, things to focus on, and any news they might have about their respective wiki. I've noticed that there's a large lack of communication between members, and people often don't really know what's going on at other places-- which can lead to a lot of backlogging when explaining a problem they might be experiencing. And that's annoying. 8(

Maybe collaborative projects for everyone to help out with, as well, although I'm not sure on specifics, and it could be difficult coming up with something. But I do think that encouraging members to keep updates on the forums would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on December 20, 2010, 03:06:14 AM
I'm sure this has probably been mentioned in the thread in the past, but I figure I would voice my opinion just this once... right?

Anyway. I think we should encourage members to post on the forums about their current projects, things to focus on, and any news they might have about their respective wiki. I've noticed that there's a large lack of communication between members, and people often don't really know what's going on at other places-- which can lead to a lot of backlogging when explaining a problem they might be experiencing. And that's annoying. 8(

Maybe collaborative projects for everyone to help out with, as well, although I'm not sure on specifics, and it could be difficult coming up with something. But I do think that encouraging members to keep updates on the forums would be a good idea.

This sounds good. Do you have any specific ideas?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tina on December 20, 2010, 04:30:42 AM
I was thinking of keeping a to-do list updated on the forums, for specific tasks that need to be covered. Like things that need to be uploaded, organized, created or expanded upon.

And then if someone would be able to assist, they'd post and point out what they'd be able to contribute with. That sorta thing, I guess.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Maxite on December 20, 2010, 04:36:11 AM
In relation to Tina's idea, I had a similar idea. Only it was for a Help subboard (uncreatively named "Help Wanted"), where members could post that they're looking for projects to participate in and let wikis (or anyone else interested) recruit them, and let wikis post projects that they want done and members can join up that way.
As far as what scope of projects or help could be asked for, I was thinking of it being pretty open. If a wiki wanted help with templating, they could post that they're looking for help in building some templates. If a person was interested in doing template work, then a wiki could take them up for a bit. Other projects like tutoring, writing tutorials, even looking for people to help start up a major project would also be fine.

Then again, this would require the creation of a board (or a "Help Wanted" thread at the least).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on December 20, 2010, 07:30:10 AM
This all sounds good.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on January 11, 2011, 04:58:42 PM
A suggestion for Bulbapedia, a search for finding Pokémon that learn certain moves, for example, I want a Pokémon that can learn both Bite and Tackle, you put them in and it will list all Pokémon that can learn both moves.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Toomai on January 11, 2011, 06:34:34 PM
A suggestion for Bulbapedia, a search for finding Pokémon that learn certain moves, for example, I want a Pokémon that can learn both Bite and Tackle, you put them in and it will list all Pokémon that can learn both moves.
That's not really possible for a wiki as I understand it. I think you want this site (http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/search).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on January 11, 2011, 06:50:13 PM
A suggestion for Bulbapedia, a search for finding Pokémon that learn certain moves, for example, I want a Pokémon that can learn both Bite and Tackle, you put them in and it will list all Pokémon that can learn both moves.
That's not really possible for a wiki as I understand it. I think you want this site (http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/search).

Yes that site works nicely for me thanks.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on January 12, 2011, 09:35:44 PM
A suggestion for Bulbapedia, a search for finding Pokémon that learn certain moves, for example, I want a Pokémon that can learn both Bite and Tackle, you put them in and it will list all Pokémon that can learn both moves.
That's not really possible for a wiki as I understand it. I think you want this site (http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/search).

Yes that site works nicely for me thanks.

sweet!

*Bookmarks*
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: T.W. on January 16, 2011, 03:20:18 PM
I was talking this over with Tacopill on Lylat Wiki and I wanted to suggest this. Firstly, I wanted to suggest a second, more basic Smashwiki to accompany the one we currently have. Note: I'm just suggesting the possibility of one. I don't have one in the works, nor would I be able to. I was thinking this second wiki would just focus on the games and characters as they appear ingame. Compared to the current Smashwiki, which seems to take the games' competitive side as the main focus. In a way, it's similar to how we have two Pikmin wikis. All those names and tiers are fanmade, right? Plus, if this ever does come to fruition, each wiki could have a notice saying something like "You are on (enter basic Smashwiki name) if you want a more in depth wiki, go to Smashwiki."

Secondly, and this probably would not happen for a while, would be a community story. It would be done round robin style, as in I would write one chapter and send it to someone else to write the next chapter. To prevent character overfill similar to what happened in The Subspace Emissary, there would actually be two stories that meet up at the end. To give you an idea, think The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Seasons.  There'd be a story team that would decided which characters go into what story, how the characters interact, and the general events of the stories. After all this, a group would write each of the chapters. If anyone is interested, I'll post a topic at some point that  would give full details.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 16, 2011, 06:45:58 PM
I was talking this over with Tacopill on Lylat Wiki and I wanted to suggest this. Firstly, I wanted to suggest a second, more basic Smashwiki to accompany the one we currently have. Note: I'm just suggesting the possibility of one. I don't have one in the works, nor would I be able to. I was thinking this second wiki would just focus on the games and characters as they appear ingame. Compared to the current Smashwiki, which seems to take the games' competitive side as the main focus. In a way, it's similar to how we have two Pikmin wikis. All those names and tiers are fanmade, right? Plus, if this ever does come to fruition, each wiki could have a notice saying something like "You are on (enter basic Smashwiki name) if you want a more in depth wiki, go to Smashwiki."

The games' competitive side is hardly our main focus, but for us to overlook it entirely would not cover a crucial set of information.  Much of SmashWiki emphasizes the in-game functioning of things, which often have competitive uses.  (The IDC (http://ssbwiki.com/Infinite_Dimensional_Cape)) is a clear example of that.)  Yes, tiers are made by a group of players, but they are widely accepted and are based on large quantities of data.

SmashWiki also puts a great deal of emphasis on the history behind characters. Heck, we probably have more interwiki links than anyone else on NIWA.  Every stage, character, item, special move, whatever has or will have an interwiki link to a relevant NIWA wiki for more in-universe info.  (For example, we don't need to describe every event that happens at Princess Peach's Castle in every Mario game; we just give a quick run-down and present how it's connected to Smash, then give a link to Mariowiki.)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on January 16, 2011, 07:25:43 PM
I think SmashWiki's coverage is their business; if they want to go more in-depth, it's not up to NIWA to decide. This should be suggested on their forums (http://ssbwiki.com/Forum:Index).

Secondly, a community story is a nice idea, it could be fun, why don't you go to The Lounge board and open up a thread asking people if they want to write a chapter (no use sending it to someone who doesn't want to write).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: T.W. on January 16, 2011, 10:34:41 PM
Okay. I understand, but I think you misinterpretted what I meant. I wasn't saying we should change Smashwiki's current status. There is no reason to alter Smashwiki. I was thinking more along the lines of a good wiki about the basic parts of Smash Bros. comes along and wants to join. Of course, they only can if Smashwiki agrees, but this would be for the for the basics as in only information found in the Smash Bros. games. Thinking about it, this might be something better discussed when/if the issue ever comes up.

As far as the story, I'll post a poll where you suggested. It'll be a bit more in depth.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 16, 2011, 10:44:40 PM
Okay. I understand, but I think you misinterpretted what I meant. I wasn't saying we should change Smashwiki's current status. There is no reason to alter Smashwiki. I was thinking more along the lines of a good wiki about the basic parts of Smash Bros. comes along and wants to join. Of course, they only can if Smashwiki agrees, but this would be for the for the basics as in only information found in the Smash Bros. games. Thinking about it, this might be something better discussed when/if the issue ever comes up.

I guess I did misunderstand; the more important question to me, though, is why anyone would use that instead of simply skimming over the info they don't care about on SmashWiki as is.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on January 16, 2011, 11:12:38 PM
Okay. I understand, but I think you misinterpretted what I meant. I wasn't saying we should change Smashwiki's current status. There is no reason to alter Smashwiki. I was thinking more along the lines of a good wiki about the basic parts of Smash Bros. comes along and wants to join. Of course, they only can if Smashwiki agrees, but this would be for the for the basics as in only information found in the Smash Bros. games. Thinking about it, this might be something better discussed when/if the issue ever comes up.

I guess I did misunderstand; the more important question to me, though, is why anyone would use that instead of simply skimming over the info they don't care about on SmashWiki as is.

May i ask, does smash wiki have an "Introduction to Smash Bros." for people who have never played before?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: T.W. on January 16, 2011, 11:29:52 PM
Okay. I understand, but I think you misinterpretted what I meant. I wasn't saying we should change Smashwiki's current status. There is no reason to alter Smashwiki. I was thinking more along the lines of a good wiki about the basic parts of Smash Bros. comes along and wants to join. Of course, they only can if Smashwiki agrees, but this would be for the for the basics as in only information found in the Smash Bros. games. Thinking about it, this might be something better discussed when/if the issue ever comes up.

I guess I did misunderstand; the more important question to me, though, is why anyone would use that instead of simply skimming over the info they don't care about on SmashWiki as is.

I'm just thinking about the newer players. If you just got into a series, you'd wnat to learn the basics before you learned about the competitive stuff, right? Plus, alot of the terms used are fan terms and things like tiers can get confusing. Especially considering how contriversial they are. Like I said before, I 'm just asking if people would be open to the idea of a second, more basic wiki.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on January 16, 2011, 11:34:18 PM
The terminology is a bit technical at times. Does Smash Wiki have a glossary? That could help.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 16, 2011, 11:46:54 PM
What terms in particular are people getting confused by?  (I think defining each term accurately and clearly on its page is better than a glossary.)

Also, regarding an "introduction"... what exactly is there to introduce?

I'm open to adjusting SmashWiki's content to be more beginnner-friendly as well, but I'm gonna need a lot more specifics.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on January 17, 2011, 12:02:33 AM
This is a paragraph in an article about Pit in SSBB. I understand most of the terms, but I will bold some of the terms that a beginner may not understand.

Pit (Kid Icarus) is a character who can play into many roles. He combines attacks well, can play up front with low lag smashes and multi-hit neutral A moves (though his close up game is impaired by poor range), moves relatively quickly, and has a respectable aerial game. Pit is easily juggled due to being a semi-floaty medium weight, but this also makes him difficult to chaingrab. Unique to Pit are two moves that reflect projectiles - his Mirror Shield which also protects Pit from many attacks, gives him launch resistance while pulling it out and actually turns foes the opposite direction much like Mario's Cape, giving him good gimping capabilities, and his Angel Ring, which is also good for racking up damage. Pit's Palutena's Arrow is a great projectile due to its fast speed, long range, quick start-up time (making it easily spammable), and decent priority. However, it's also easily perfect shielded due to its fast speed, which makes it lose some of its usefulness. Pit has an advanced technique known as Wing Dashing. Pit also has one of the longest recoveries in the game, with three midair jumps, the fastest glide in the game, and an exceptional up special Wings of Icarus. However, should Pit get hit while using Wings of Icarus or attacks out of it, he cannot use it again until he lands onto the ground, grabs a ledge, or (in worst case scenarios) is KO'd. Pit's moves generally have low lag, low knockback, and deal medium damage. This, however, is one of Pit's greatest weaknesses. Due to stale-move negation, continued use of his smashes can make KOing a difficult task, forcing the player to switch to projectile attacks to buff out smashes again. Pit's back aerial is his most powerful attack, which is a solid KO move thanks to its speed. Careful Pit players can maximize his potential, while playing through his weaknesses, but it can be a difficult task.

The "run-on" sentence structure and the length of the paragraph may also add to the "technical-ness" of the section for a beginner.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: T.W. on January 17, 2011, 12:21:40 AM
Like I said, I don't think we should change Smashwiki's current status. I also don't think we should just go and create a wiki about official Smash Bros. This is just preparing for a possible eventuallity. I'm one of those people that likes to have a plan in place when something happens.

And what I mean by basic is just official things, such as the website and Smash Bros. games and nothing else. The problem with competitive type games is that line between official and fanmade blurs. What Smashwiki does it does extremely well and I use it often, but my friend who understands AP Chem 10 was completely lost when she saw some of the more technical terms. Honestly, I might have been wrong to bring this up before actually needing a plan. I just thought having a plan set up would be useful.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 17, 2011, 12:57:53 AM
This is a paragraph in an article about Pit in SSBB. I understand most of the terms, but I will bold some of the terms that a beginner may not understand.

Pit (Kid Icarus) is a character who can play into many roles. He combines attacks well, can play up front with low lag smashes and multi-hit neutral A moves (though his close up game is impaired by poor range), moves relatively quickly, and has a respectable aerial game. Pit is easily juggled due to being a semi-floaty medium weight, but this also makes him difficult to chaingrab. Unique to Pit are two moves that reflect projectiles - his Mirror Shield which also protects Pit from many attacks, gives him launch resistance while pulling it out and actually turns foes the opposite direction much like Mario's Cape, giving him good gimping capabilities, and his Angel Ring, which is also good for racking up damage. Pit's Palutena's Arrow is a great projectile due to its fast speed, long range, quick start-up time (making it easily spammable), and decent priority. However, it's also easily perfect shielded due to its fast speed, which makes it lose some of its usefulness. Pit has an advanced technique known as Wing Dashing. Pit also has one of the longest recoveries in the game, with three midair jumps, the fastest glide in the game, and an exceptional up special Wings of Icarus. However, should Pit get hit while using Wings of Icarus or attacks out of it, he cannot use it again until he lands onto the ground, grabs a ledge, or (in worst case scenarios) is KO'd. Pit's moves generally have low lag, low knockback, and deal medium damage. This, however, is one of Pit's greatest weaknesses. Due to stale-move negation, continued use of his smashes can make KOing a difficult task, forcing the player to switch to projectile attacks to buff out smashes again. Pit's back aerial is his most powerful attack, which is a solid KO move thanks to its speed. Careful Pit players can maximize his potential, while playing through his weaknesses, but it can be a difficult task.

The "run-on" sentence structure and the length of the paragraph may also add to the "technical-ness" of the section for a beginner.

Oy.  The "Character name (game)" articles all need a re-write, sadly... while they're usually the most-viewed articles, they're also the most densely written, and lots of the edits to them are not exactly great quality.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: T.W. on January 17, 2011, 02:09:02 PM
If anyone's interested, I finally made that poll about the community story. Here's the  link (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=793.0).
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Volatile Dweevil on January 17, 2011, 02:51:55 PM
I honestly don't have a problem with the "technical" terms. Almost all of them, if not all, have articles on the wiki explaining what they are, and I didn't have trouble figuring what "semi-floaty" and "glide" meant.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on January 17, 2011, 04:03:05 PM
I honestly don't have a problem with the "technical" terms. Almost all of them, if not all, have articles on the wiki explaining what they are, and I didn't have trouble figuring what "semi-floaty" and "glide" meant.

Still, "semi-floaty" sounds like a fan-made term more than an official Smash Vocabulary, which can be daunting to new players.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 17, 2011, 05:04:16 PM
I honestly don't have a problem with the "technical" terms. Almost all of them, if not all, have articles on the wiki explaining what they are, and I didn't have trouble figuring what "semi-floaty" and "glide" meant.

Still, "semi-floaty" sounds like a fan-made term more than an official Smash Vocabulary, which can be daunting to new players.

The problem is that much of the fan-made terminology existed in the Melee community before there existed a smashbros.com in English to give "official" names for things.  The Melee terms stuck and the DOJO ones did not, so you'll still find "tilt attack" and "tech" instead of "strong attack" and "ukemi".

See also: http://www.ssbwiki.com/SmashWiki:SmashWiki_is_not_official (http://www.ssbwiki.com/SmashWiki:SmashWiki_is_not_official)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on January 17, 2011, 05:40:55 PM
I honestly don't have a problem with the "technical" terms. Almost all of them, if not all, have articles on the wiki explaining what they are, and I didn't have trouble figuring what "semi-floaty" and "glide" meant.

Still, "semi-floaty" sounds like a fan-made term more than an official Smash Vocabulary, which can be daunting to new players.

The problem is that much of the fan-made terminology existed in the Melee community before there existed a smashbros.com in English to give "official" names for things.  The Melee terms stuck and the DOJO ones did not, so you'll still find "tilt attack" and "tech" instead of "strong attack" and "ukemi".

See also: http://www.ssbwiki.com/SmashWiki:SmashWiki_is_not_official (http://www.ssbwiki.com/SmashWiki:SmashWiki_is_not_official)

Ah, that makes sense...
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: SnorlaxMonster on January 19, 2011, 02:50:29 AM
I honestly don't have a problem with the "technical" terms. Almost all of them, if not all, have articles on the wiki explaining what they are, and I didn't have trouble figuring what "semi-floaty" and "glide" meant.
The technical terms should really have links on them to pages describing what they mean. However, I found "glide" pretty blatant without any need for explanation, but if there is a page for it, it should still be linked to.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on January 19, 2011, 04:14:30 AM
I honestly don't have a problem with the "technical" terms. Almost all of them, if not all, have articles on the wiki explaining what they are, and I didn't have trouble figuring what "semi-floaty" and "glide" meant.
The technical terms should really have links on them to pages describing what they mean. However, I found "glide" pretty blatant without any need for explanation, but if there is a page for it, it should still be linked to.
All SSB slang terms should have their own articles IMO, a definition as to what they are.

However I don't think it's up to us to decide this. The SSB staff are perfectly capable of making those changes if necessary. We just have to trust them.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on January 19, 2011, 08:22:02 PM
I honestly don't have a problem with the "technical" terms. Almost all of them, if not all, have articles on the wiki explaining what they are, and I didn't have trouble figuring what "semi-floaty" and "glide" meant.
The technical terms should really have links on them to pages describing what they mean. However, I found "glide" pretty blatant without any need for explanation, but if there is a page for it, it should still be linked to.
All SSB slang terms should have their own articles IMO, a definition as to what they are.

However I don't think it's up to us to decide this. The SSB staff are perfectly capable of making those changes if necessary. We just have to trust them.

Still, we can make recommendations here and there.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 19, 2011, 11:52:29 PM
All SSB slang terms should have their own articles IMO, a definition as to what they are.

Which ones have you spotted that don't?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on January 20, 2011, 12:15:17 AM
If the Wiki asks for opinions, that's fine. However, nobody here has the authority to tell them how to change an article. You could just go to their Wiki and do it yourself, but if their staff overrules you, then that's that.

Good luck, guys! :)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 20, 2011, 02:55:30 AM
I am asking for opinions, lol.  It would help to know if SmashWiki's talking nonsensical jargon in most people's eyes.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on January 20, 2011, 04:44:40 AM
I understand, I'm just saying for the sake of this discussion and future ones. ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Reboot on January 28, 2011, 12:31:16 AM
I am asking for opinions, lol.  It would help to know if SmashWiki's talking nonsensical jargon in most people's eyes.
There is a fair amount of that. It's why I've spent a lot of time trying to replace terms like "nair" and "dair", which I was completely lost by at first - "Neutral aerial" and "down aerial" aren't the best of terms, but at least there's SOME hope of figuring them out from context. Or to put it another way - if I asked someone who plays SSBB casually what they thought of Link's "fair" attack, not in a million years would they realise it meant an aerial attack in the direction the character is facing without further explanation or many guesses.

There really is too much of that. "Tilt" isn't a particuarly intuitive name either, even with modifiers...
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 28, 2011, 12:36:08 AM
I am asking for opinions, lol.  It would help to know if SmashWiki's talking nonsensical jargon in most people's eyes.
There is a fair amount of that. It's why I've spent a lot of time trying to replace terms like "nair" and "dair", which I was completely lost by at first - "Neutral aerial" and "down aerial" aren't the best of terms, but at least there's SOME hope of figuring them out from context. Or to put it another way - if I asked someone who plays SSBB casually what they thought of Link's "fair" attack, not in a million years would they realise it meant an aerial attack in the direction the character is facing without further explanation or many guesses.

There really is too much of that. "Tilt" isn't a particuarly intuitive name either, even with modifiers...

Blame the Melee tournament community for locking these in as the community-accepted terms. :/
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Reboot on January 28, 2011, 01:27:42 AM
Blame the Melee tournament community for locking these in as the community-accepted terms. :/
I suppose that goes back to the apparent reason why T.W. wanted a "basic smashwiki" - is SmashWiki intended exclusively for the tournament community? If it isn't, then just saying "there's a glossary" (IS there even one?) isn't enough - any reader fluent in the English language should be able to basically follow every page and glean useful information from it without reference to any other page, with everything obvious enough for that much from the context. Whereas lots of SmashWiki is impenetrable to the casual reader without a whole bunch of prior knowledge (for a particularly bad example, see http://www.ssbwiki.com/Zelda_%28SSBM%29#Combos - I didn't put the cleanup tag on it, but I fully agree with the sentiment), and that's the definition of "too much jargon".

Also, the Smasher: namespace seems half-baked, literally. Why did the individual players get moved out of the mainspace, but the "crew", tournament, etc articles didn't? Either the Smasher: namespace should encompass them too (which would be my preferred suggestion), or there should be another namespace or namespaces for them.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 28, 2011, 02:17:41 AM
Blame the Melee tournament community for locking these in as the community-accepted terms. :/
I suppose that goes back to the apparent reason why T.W. wanted a "basic smashwiki" - is SmashWiki intended exclusively for the tournament community? If it isn't, then just saying "there's a glossary" (IS there even one?) isn't enough - any reader fluent in the English language should be able to basically follow every page and glean useful information from it without reference to any other page, with everything obvious enough for that much from the context. Whereas lots of SmashWiki is impenetrable to the casual reader without a whole bunch of prior knowledge (for a particularly bad example, see http://www.ssbwiki.com/Zelda_%28SSBM%29#Combos - I didn't put the cleanup tag on it, but I fully agree with the sentiment), and that's the definition of "too much jargon".

Oh dear god that's horrifying.  In any case, cases like that should be marked by the usage of Template:Jargon (http://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:Jargon), which I just made.

Also, the Smasher: namespace seems half-baked, literally. Why did the individual players get moved out of the mainspace, but the "crew", tournament, etc articles didn't? Either the Smasher: namespace should encompass them too (which would be my preferred suggestion), or there should be another namespace or namespaces for them.

That namespace is a leftover from SmashWiki's original days as an independent wiki with Smashboards.   I think right now we'd be better off jettisoning the whole thing and starting it from scratch to ensure its quality than spending the incredible amounts of time to determine who's really notable and who isn't.  (I think crew pages should, with few exceptions, be deleted altogether, and tournament articles are similarly questionable.)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Reboot on January 28, 2011, 02:47:12 AM
Oh dear god that's horrifying.  In any case, cases like that should be marked by the usage of Template:Jargon (http://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:Jargon), which I just made.
Shouldn't it sort into a jargon-specific subcategory of the main cleanup category?

Also, the Smasher: namespace seems half-baked, literally. Why did the individual players get moved out of the mainspace, but the "crew", tournament, etc articles didn't? Either the Smasher: namespace should encompass them too (which would be my preferred suggestion), or there should be another namespace or namespaces for them.

That namespace is a leftover from SmashWiki's original days as an independent wiki with Smashboards.   I think right now we'd be better off jettisoning the whole thing and starting it from scratch to ensure its quality than spending the incredible amounts of time to determine who's really notable and who isn't.  (I think crew pages should, with few exceptions, be deleted altogether, and tournament articles are similarly questionable.)
I entirely agree (and if anyone DISagrees, point them at http://www.ssbwiki.com/Category:Smasher_stubs ).

I'm less-than-sure there'd be consensus for it, unfortunately, but the first [non-controversial] step would be to purge broken and unused redirects from the mainspace to the Smasher: namespace anyway, to help get [[Special:Allpages]] under some sort of control.

I've just put the twelve broken mainspace->Smasher:space redirects up for speedy deletion. Hunting down unused main->Smasher: redirects will take longer, but I'd be willing to help look if you'd be willing to delete them.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on January 28, 2011, 03:18:15 AM
Oh dear god that's horrifying.  In any case, cases like that should be marked by the usage of Template:Jargon (http://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:Jargon), which I just made.
Shouldn't it sort into a jargon-specific subcategory of the main cleanup category?

Also, the Smasher: namespace seems half-baked, literally. Why did the individual players get moved out of the mainspace, but the "crew", tournament, etc articles didn't? Either the Smasher: namespace should encompass them too (which would be my preferred suggestion), or there should be another namespace or namespaces for them.

That namespace is a leftover from SmashWiki's original days as an independent wiki with Smashboards.   I think right now we'd be better off jettisoning the whole thing and starting it from scratch to ensure its quality than spending the incredible amounts of time to determine who's really notable and who isn't.  (I think crew pages should, with few exceptions, be deleted altogether, and tournament articles are similarly questionable.)
I entirely agree (and if anyone DISagrees, point them at http://www.ssbwiki.com/Category:Smasher_stubs ).

I'm less-than-sure there'd be consensus for it, unfortunately, but the first [non-controversial] step would be to purge broken and unused redirects from the mainspace to the Smasher: namespace anyway, to help get [[Special:Allpages]] under some sort of control.

I've just put the twelve broken mainspace->Smasher:space redirects up for speedy deletion. Hunting down unused main->Smasher: redirects will take longer, but I'd be willing to help look if you'd be willing to delete them.

Why would you need to delete those?  I assume they're there for searching reasons.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: TurtwigA on January 28, 2011, 11:37:08 PM
I have a suggestion for a new user group on these forums, known as former wiki staff. Now I'm not suggesting this be for some staff who've done so many horrible things, I'm suggesting this for those who actually helped the wiki a lot and never had any real downfall. Basically just a select few would have the user group, and they'd only be able to access the wiki staff forums and post there.

I also think that there should also be a new user group for those who reach 5000 posts, because I'm pretty sure it'll happen one day.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on January 29, 2011, 07:07:54 PM
For the staff one we could easily set a staff membergroup as secondary, they'd be able to get into the staff boards without being considered staff.

And for the other thing, I think so too. Plus, adding a 5,000 membergroup encourages people to try to reach 5,000 posts.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on January 29, 2011, 09:23:50 PM
Is it possible that NIWA allows the trading and/or selling (for niwa credits) of the collectible cards in NIWA's credit gambling system?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on January 30, 2011, 03:24:07 AM
And for the other thing, I think so too. Plus, adding a 5,000 membergroup encourages people to try to reach 5,000 posts.

I now have a goal in life.
Is it possible that NIWA allows the trading and/or selling (for niwa credits) of the collectible cards in NIWA's credit gambling system?

I recommend talking to Neo (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=35), NIWA's coding monkey. He set up the card game and the other fancy features, as far as i know.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Justin on January 30, 2011, 03:25:15 AM
That would be complicated, but I could look into it. It may take awhile, though.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on January 30, 2011, 04:19:40 AM
That would be complicated, but I could look into it. It may take awhile, though.

Oh okay, it's not so important that it would warrant an overhaul of the system. It just would have been nice to see if it were something that could be easily implemented.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Volatile Dweevil on January 30, 2011, 05:32:17 AM
I'm not to load anyone up with a huge amount of work, but it would be nice to see NIWA cards for the franchises of some of the newer wikis, too.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on February 02, 2011, 09:14:36 PM
Neo's just our coding monkey, our drawing monkey is Edo, talk to him about that.

But if Edo's overworked, all of the sites have an image namespace...except bulbapedia
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 06, 2011, 06:42:59 AM
with the amount of usage the images get on bulbapedia, it is justified that their stuff is set up differently.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on February 21, 2011, 02:49:09 AM
Why can't a have a four letter username?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 21, 2011, 03:25:05 AM
Why can't a have a four letter username?

who is "a"?

also, there maybe a minimum amount of letters in a username.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on February 21, 2011, 03:36:00 AM
Why can't a have a four letter username?

who is "a"?

also, there maybe a minimum amount of letters in a username.

A very strange typo, and why must there be a 5 letter minimum?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tina on February 21, 2011, 05:47:46 AM

A very strange typo, and why must there be a 5 letter minimum?

*points to username*

Also, I'm pretty sure there's shorter on here, too.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on February 21, 2011, 01:21:01 PM
Confirmed: your user name can be four characters.  But, if you want to change your display name, it has to be at least five characters long.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 21, 2011, 02:14:11 PM
Confirmed: your user name can be four characters.  But, if you want to change your display name, it has to be at least five characters long.

that's odd..... i guess it's to help distinguish between one set of names (actual) and the other (displayed)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on February 21, 2011, 02:16:18 PM
Confirmed: your user name can be four characters.  But, if you want to change your display name, it has to be at least five characters long.

that's odd..... i guess it's to help distinguish between one set of names (actual) and the other (displayed)

Still, I would think four characters is sufficient enough.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 21, 2011, 02:35:55 PM
Confirmed: your user name can be four characters.  But, if you want to change your display name, it has to be at least five characters long.

that's odd..... i guess it's to help distinguish between one set of names (actual) and the other (displayed)

Still, I would think four characters is sufficient enough.

yea..... I agree.

Also, didn't at one time you have circled letters for a display name?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on February 21, 2011, 02:39:27 PM
Yes.  I also had "illegal" characters to where my display name was invisible.  ...They changed the rules while I was gone.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 21, 2011, 02:43:34 PM
Yes.  I also had "illegal" characters to where my display name was invisible.  ...They changed the rules while I was gone.

Yea...good times, good times.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on February 21, 2011, 09:20:18 PM
Why can't a have a four letter username?

who is "a"?

also, there maybe a minimum amount of letters in a username.

A very strange typo, and why must there be a 5 letter minimum?

You can likely ask an admin to change your display name to simply "Rahu" ...if you are trying to get rid of the three in your username.  Otherwise, they might not change it. 
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on February 21, 2011, 09:22:37 PM
Why can't a have a four letter username?

who is "a"?

also, there maybe a minimum amount of letters in a username.

A very strange typo, and why must there be a 5 letter minimum?

You can likely ask an admin to change your display name to simply "Rahu" ...if you are trying to get rid of the three in your username.  Otherwise, they might not change it. 


No the 3 is part of it, I want another four letter name.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on February 21, 2011, 09:26:02 PM
It would be helpful if we knew what you wanted it changed to.  All I can say is ask a forum admin.  I would gladly change it for you, but it's beyond me.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on February 21, 2011, 11:21:26 PM
It would be helpful if we knew what you wanted it changed to.  All I can say is ask a forum admin.  I would gladly change it for you, but it's beyond me.

Never mind I found a way around it.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on February 21, 2011, 11:47:46 PM
It would be helpful if we knew what you wanted it changed to.  All I can say is ask a forum admin.  I would gladly change it for you, but it's beyond me.

Never mind I found a way around it.

Not really, you're still using five characters.  But, whatever. :P
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 22, 2011, 12:19:33 AM
It would be helpful if we knew what you wanted it changed to.  All I can say is ask a forum admin.  I would gladly change it for you, but it's beyond me.

Never mind I found a way around it.

Not really, you're still using five characters.  But, whatever. :P

It does work though.....
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: TurtwigA on February 22, 2011, 01:48:26 AM
It would be helpful if we knew what you wanted it changed to.  All I can say is ask a forum admin.  I would gladly change it for you, but it's beyond me.

Never mind I found a way around it.

Not really, you're still using five characters.  But, whatever. :P

It does work though.....
Actually it doesn't. I just tried to change my name back to my login user name (A) and it said it there was a requirement of 5 characters.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 22, 2011, 03:08:56 AM
Not so much of a suggestion as so much of a complaint but - these forums have a word censor, so why do some mods still censor my posts. >.>

You have a goddamn censor for a bloody reason! I disabled it for me because I don't care if I see "offensive" language.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on February 22, 2011, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: The Rules
6. Moderate swearing is allowed. However, you shouldn't' do so against other users. If any moderator sees you breaking this rule, you will be warned. Posts may be edited if they contain excessive swearing.

However, I have not seen any staff member edit a post due to excessive swearing.  If Person A has the censor on, but person B has the censor off... then only person B will see the word(s).  

Regardless of whether it's censored or not, no post should have fifty swears in it.  I guess that may be why?  I don't know though.  What were some of the posts which were edited? ...Are you sure you have the censor off?

Also, the rules page has a spelling error... but it's fixed now.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tina on February 22, 2011, 08:13:42 PM
I'm guessing it's because of the "you shouldn't swear at other users" part?

Because I sorta doubt the staff here would go out of their way to censor posts otherwise. But if you're being a jerk to someone and swearing at them, then... maybe?

EDIT: OK, looking through your posts some more, it does look like some people have needlessly censored some things. I'm not sure why, as you've said, there's a filter for a reason. However, I would suggest that if you're complaining about mods censoring your posts, then swearing at them about it isn't a good idea.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 24, 2011, 10:33:28 PM
it may also be censored for things that can't be caught by an automated censor.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 24, 2011, 11:33:35 PM
But the "f" bomb?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on February 25, 2011, 02:44:58 AM
But the "f" bomb?

If you have a problem with the post, talk (respectfully) to the moderator who edited it.  (It's at the bottom of the post.)  But while doing this, please keep in mind he/she is just trying to do their job.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 25, 2011, 09:33:17 PM
But the "f" bomb?

If you have a problem with the post, talk (respectfully) to the moderator who edited it.  (It's at the bottom of the post.)  But while doing this, please keep in mind he/she is just trying to do their job.

yea, we are after all, all human....

I think.... :angel:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Malake256 on February 27, 2011, 12:01:17 AM
Oops. I have been censoring people around here. Every time someone posted "should this really be allowed?" in the NIWA chat, I said it's better to censor than to not censor considering this is a Nintendo-based website. I didn't even know about the auto censor thing. I guess more flags have to be added to the auto censor though, since not everything that should get censored actually gets censored
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on February 27, 2011, 03:34:07 AM
Oops. I have been censoring people around here. Every time someone posted "should this really be allowed?" in the NIWA chat, I said it's better to censor than to not censor considering this is a Nintendo-based website. I didn't even know about the auto censor thing. I guess more flags have to be added to the auto censor though, since not everything that should get censored actually gets censored

yea. This sound reasonable.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 18, 2011, 10:48:46 PM
You guys should update the news thing, since like, most thing have passed already.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on March 18, 2011, 11:52:59 PM
You guys should update the news thing, since like, most thing have passed already.

Thank you for informing us. I will pass it on.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on March 19, 2011, 09:09:02 AM
Update it with what, exactly? I don't know the news from each Wiki. Is there anything somebody wants us to put in the spotlight?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: SnorlaxMonster on March 19, 2011, 12:25:24 PM
I guess you could replace the "will"s with "was"s. When did WiKirby, Metroid Wiki and even Wars Wiki join NIWA? We could celebrate their anniversaries of joining.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 19, 2011, 01:11:11 PM
Update it with what, exactly? I don't know the news from each Wiki. Is there anything somebody wants us to put in the spotlight?
I mean, update as in "Remove the things that already passed" from them.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on March 19, 2011, 01:48:02 PM
But if I remove what's in there, then what? Have nothing?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on March 19, 2011, 02:25:54 PM
But if I remove what's in there, then what? Have nothing?

There isn't anything wrong with not having news for a few days or so.  But yeah, actually having news to display is preferable.  Maybe something about PAX East 2011 (http://east.paxsite.com/)?

Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 27, 2011, 06:42:26 PM
You guys need to fix the spoiler tag.

Hidden is spelled wrong.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on March 27, 2011, 11:08:16 PM
You guys need to fix the spoiler tag.

Hidden is spelled wrong.

I noticed that a long time ago, they said they can't fix it due to some code or something that breaks it.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 27, 2011, 11:25:30 PM
That is bull.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on March 28, 2011, 12:47:00 AM
I'm not sure why that's like that, but if the code experts say that's the case, then that's just a bummer for us I guess.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Jake on March 28, 2011, 01:16:37 AM
Updating SMF would probably fix the problem, unless there's something preventing us from doing that.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on March 28, 2011, 02:46:11 AM
Maybe you guys should update SMF, according to the little thing a the bottom, these forums are powered by SMF 1.1.11, but the most recent version of it is SMF 1.1.13.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Xizor on March 28, 2011, 03:12:48 AM
Last we checked, upgrading lost us a bunch of features we didn't want to lose. We can look into it again, though, since the last time we went to maybe upgrade it was going to be 1.1.12. But, it's doubtful unless there are security fixes.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on March 29, 2011, 09:20:55 PM
was spoiler built-in to the forums by default, or did we add it in through an extension or customization?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on April 01, 2011, 03:47:59 PM

I think spoiler tags were added later.


When will we get more "Change your display name" in stock? and what's the difference between "Change User Title" and "Change your display name"?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on April 01, 2011, 06:33:54 PM

I think spoiler tags were added later.


When will we get more "Change your display name" in stock? and what's the difference between "Change User Title" and "Change your display name"?
Your display name is the name that's displayed and your user title is the thing displayed above your ranking (for me it's CEO of Kaiba Corporation.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Member#36 on April 01, 2011, 06:36:15 PM

I think spoiler tags were added later.


When will we get more "Change your display name" in stock? and what's the difference between "Change User Title" and "Change your display name"?

Your user title is the text which is directly under your username.  Your display name is the name everyone sees your username as.  I.e., I have the username "Austin", which I use to log in, but everyone sees it as "Member #36" (my dispay name.)
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on April 01, 2011, 08:04:20 PM

I think spoiler tags were added later.


When will we get more "Change your display name" in stock? and what's the difference between "Change User Title" and "Change your display name"?

Your user title is the text which is directly under your username.  Your display name is the name everyone sees your username as.  I.e., I have the username "Austin", which I use to log in, but everyone sees it as "Member #36" (my dispay name.)
I JUST SAID THAT. >:[
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on April 01, 2011, 08:10:02 PM

I think spoiler tags were added later.


When will we get more "Change your display name" in stock? and what's the difference between "Change User Title" and "Change your display name"?

Check the Trade Center (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?action=shop;do=trade). Mother Mario is selling one for a reasonable price of 60 niwas.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Naesala on April 05, 2011, 02:23:08 AM
Is there a way to see all the past names you've used?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on April 09, 2011, 12:36:25 AM
I think spoiler tags were added later.

ok. thank you.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on June 17, 2011, 06:58:44 PM
Hey like, what happened to my signature?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on June 18, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
Hey like, what happened to my signature?

Sorry. I don't know. :(.

Might i suggest contacting a Forum Admin (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?action=mlist;sa=position)?
Title: Professor Layton Wiki
Post by: drewbrett on June 23, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
I think we should start a Professor Layton Wiki. It's becoming an increasingly popular Nintendo/Level 5 title and I think it deserves one.
Title: Re: Professor Layton Wiki
Post by: Koroku on June 23, 2011, 08:30:10 PM
I think we should start a Professor Layton Wiki. It's becoming an increasingly popular Nintendo/Level 5 title and I think it deserves one.
http://layton.wikia.com/wiki/Professor_Layton_Wiki

If someone gets them to go independent, I'll throw out my hosting stick (:
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on July 01, 2011, 06:10:02 PM
I say combine all the franchise sub-boards in the Nintendo Gaming board. it just creates forum disunity and most of us dedicated Nintendo fans are fans of multiple franchises anyways.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Irockz on July 21, 2011, 05:43:16 PM
What if we spanned out into 2 Alliances? this one, for Nintendo, and another, for Sega/Microsoft/Valve/Sony.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: tacopill on July 24, 2011, 04:15:37 AM
A Sega/Microsoft/Valve/Sony/etc. needs related wikis to start it up.

Any one of us can help them along, give them ideas, etc. But they have to want to do it for themselves first and foremost; with us as mealy advisers. Otherwise, they may expect us to do everything for them.

as an example, i am currently helping Kingdom Hearts Wiki (http://www.khwiki.net) (along with some others) start a Square Enix Alliance.

If anyone knows of any other wiki's that may want to start an alliance, please send them my way and i will do my best to help them out.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on August 08, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
How about letting us use spaces in our names? My display name is supposed to be Rei Ayanami, not ReiAyanami.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on August 08, 2011, 11:15:58 AM
My name has caused no problems.
Title: Re: Professor Layton Wiki
Post by: dewott64 on December 14, 2011, 09:51:54 AM
I think we should start a Professor Layton Wiki. It's becoming an increasingly popular Nintendo/Level 5 title and I think it deserves one.

professor layton is not nintendo

nintendo only distrubuet professor layton they dont own rights to the franchise at all
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Greenpickle on December 14, 2011, 09:55:22 AM
I thought NIWA was for series primarily on Nintendo consoles, not series owned by Nintendo.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Manga Maniac on December 28, 2011, 09:30:05 PM
I believe our viewpoint has for now been "just because it isn't owned by Nintendo doesn't mean it can't be a Nintendo franchise". Which is one I have to agree with.
Title: MediaWiki:Anonnotice
Post by: ToastUltimatum on October 06, 2012, 04:45:14 PM
What I've noticed across wikis is that the MediaWiki:Anonnotices that state something along the lines of "Please log in / create an account!" only link to Special:UserLogin. Surely the "create account" should link to Special:CreateAccount? I've already changed this on Icaruspedia, I suggest all other wikis do the same.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Greenpickle on October 06, 2012, 04:58:04 PM
I don't see much difference.  They both link to each other, and people are just as likely to have an account if they click that link as not.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: ToastUltimatum on October 06, 2012, 06:09:19 PM
I don't see much difference.  They both link to each other, and people are just as likely to have an account if they click that link as not.

That's why the "please log in" can link to Special:UserLogin, and "make an account" can link to Special:CreateAccount.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Greenpickle on October 06, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
Oh, I didn't get that from the way you worded it.  Sounds sensible.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on October 29, 2012, 06:59:08 AM
I say combine all the franchise sub-boards in the Nintendo Gaming board. it just creates forum disunity and most of us dedicated Nintendo fans are fans of multiple franchises anyways.

This is from a while back but I still think it's a good idea
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on February 08, 2013, 09:36:54 AM
^^ Is thsi being looked into?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Tucayo on September 09, 2013, 12:31:15 AM
We don't have any links from the forum to the hub, would it be OK to add one next to the "Home" button?
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: Moydow on September 09, 2013, 12:42:46 AM
Yes it would.
Title: Re: Suggestions
Post by: KidIcarus on June 10, 2014, 08:47:28 PM
I think it's time for a new logo. Maybe something like this?

 (http://programmingthenation.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/NW_airlines.jpg)

This is the old Northwest Airlines logo, so we would have to change it slightly for legal reasons.