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Title: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Zoroark on February 16, 2010, 04:31:17 AM
Chikorita, obviously.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Nerdy Guy on February 16, 2010, 04:35:34 AM
Charmander was a pretty bad choice way back in Gen I.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Garlic Man on February 16, 2010, 04:36:35 AM
Chimchar. Bleh.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Mari-Illustrious-Makinami on February 16, 2010, 04:37:19 AM
Chimchar, it's just a flamin' monkey. Eh, I'dve thrown a Mankey into Cinnabar Volcano.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Knife on February 16, 2010, 05:31:19 AM
Didn't like Mudkip very much. Basically a more powerful version of Wooper.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Kunoichi on February 16, 2010, 05:40:34 AM
As much as I loved Charmander,
he wasn't very good starting out.
I think because of the gym orders back then.

Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Edofenrir on February 16, 2010, 05:49:36 AM
As soon as you train your Charmander properly to level 12 or 13, it completely wipes the floor with Brock's Pokémon, despite the type disadvantage. After that it becomes a very strong and rewarding Pokémon.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: ??s?????c on February 16, 2010, 05:54:56 AM
I've played all the games with all the starters and I must say Piplup gave me the most problems as a starter :/
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Zesty Cactus on February 16, 2010, 07:35:23 AM
I'll go with Piplup... I don't mind him, but I think his evolutions are kind of ugly, haha.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Kevzo8 on February 16, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
No offense, but I voted Totodile. Okay, he's a crocodile, but he's not cool to me. D:
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Muzy72 on February 16, 2010, 06:23:41 PM
I hate Mudkip >.>
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Level 3 on February 16, 2010, 07:56:32 PM
wow, you are just asking for an "I herd u liek mudkipz" aren't you?

Anyway, something about bulbasaur just didn't sit right with me, but he's cool now.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: TTEchidna on February 16, 2010, 09:35:41 PM
Giant middle finger to Piplup.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ninjask on February 16, 2010, 09:42:13 PM
I don't like Treecko much...
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: 2257 on February 16, 2010, 10:19:34 PM
Torchic.

It's a terrible starter in Emerald. It turns into a fighting type just as you get to the psychic gym.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: iDOWN on February 16, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
Mudkip wasn't a horrible idea, but all three evolutions had a horrible design, which is why Mudkip is my least favorite starter. However, Chikorita is my favorite, and the hate he's getting it somewhat shocking to me. But meh.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Laptopuser1 on February 17, 2010, 12:34:52 AM
Turtwig. No originality, no ANYTHING. You can hardly even tell what he's based on. Just another grass type.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Edofenrir on February 17, 2010, 01:07:03 AM
Mudkip wasn't a horrible idea, but all three evolutions had a horrible design, which is why Mudkip is my least favorite starter. However, Chikorita is my favorite, and the hate he's getting it somewhat shocking to me. But meh.

I voted for Mudkip as well, pretty much because of the same reasons. I also have no problem with Chikorita, but well, that's the thing with opinions: They vary.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Zoroark on February 17, 2010, 01:14:11 AM
My reason for voting Chikorita is because it truly is the worst.

Weakness to the first two gyms?

I'll pass.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Garlic Man on February 17, 2010, 01:16:18 AM
My reason for voting Chikorita is because it truly is the worst.
That is what most people would call "opinion".


I voted Chimchar because it barely looks like a Pokemon. The evolutions aren't creative either.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Zoroark on February 17, 2010, 01:19:03 AM
I will agree that Chimchar line is uncreative.

They just took the Torchic line, turned them into monkeys, and gave them better stats.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: meijin3 on February 17, 2010, 01:41:45 AM
Chimchar sucks and so do all it's evolutions. Chikorita is a close second!
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Emerald Yoshi on February 17, 2010, 01:49:07 AM
For me here's how it is:
Gen 1: the are all awesome
Gen 2: chikorita was pretty bad in the beginning of G/S/C but was better later on.
Gen 3: nothing bad happened no matter. Tate& Liza were very easy with Blaziken. AND WHOEVER DOES NOT LIKE THE MUDKIPS GET A BEATING.  
Gen 4: they all suck

THESE ARE ONLY MY PERSONAL VIEWS!
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: VeggiePopper on February 17, 2010, 03:13:58 AM
As much as I loved Charmander,
he wasn't very good starting out.
I think because of the gym orders back then.



Which made it even more awesome, it provided a true challenge no other starter gives you now that fire starters receive fighting type evolutions to have an advantage against the first leader. IMO the worst would be Treecko.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Kunoichi on February 17, 2010, 07:10:16 AM
As much as I loved Charmander,
he wasn't very good starting out.
I think because of the gym orders back then.



Which made it even more awesome, it provided a true challenge no other starter gives you now that fire starters receive fighting type evolutions to have an advantage against the first leader. IMO the worst would be Treecko.


Ah yeah good point. xD
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Level 3 on February 17, 2010, 03:34:04 PM
I used to hate Bulbasaur before realizing it was awesome.

Mudkip is cool as it is, but the evos aren't that well made.

My least favorite overall would have to be chikorita.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Jing412 on February 19, 2010, 10:49:52 PM
if its based on opinoon I kinda didnt like Chickorita mainly because it has weakness to the first two gym leaders
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ambiance on February 21, 2010, 08:42:11 AM
I HATE Totodile.
Yes, it wasn't as bad as Chikorita if you wanted an easy time, but I don't care about weaknesses against Gym Leaders (all the Gyms are easy anyway, especially in Johto...except that freaking Whitney and her Miltank). I usually chose the Pokemon that would be weak against the first few gyms without even knowing it. Piplup, for example, has become my favorite starter, despite being the "hard mode" of Sinnoh. It's good against the first gym, but has a hard time with the next few gyms. Although I guess Chimchar is also hard to use at the  very start of Sinnoh. I just can't stand Totodile. Chimchar is another Pokemon I can't stand (well, mostly Monferno and Infernape, it's evolutions, those overused imps).
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ell Oh Ell on February 21, 2010, 08:49:34 AM
Wait, Piplup was a bad choice?

I thought I just sucked. ;_;
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ambiance on February 21, 2010, 09:04:24 AM
Wait, Piplup was a bad choice?

I thought I just sucked. ;_;

It could be that you do suck! :laugh: Just kidding
But yeah, Piplup was a "bad" choice if one wanted to have overall good match ups at the start of their journey. Later on though, Empolean has many resistances and an immunity (I believe). Plus, Piplup looks awesome (not that ugly Prinlup though :P) And Empolean looks even more awesome ^^
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ell Oh Ell on February 21, 2010, 09:10:57 AM
That's the only reason I picked it, Piplup didn't look f***ing weird.

When I have the choice between a penguin, a goddamn tree, and a flaming monkey (I see what you did thar Nintendo) I'm going for the bird in the tuxedo.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ambiance on February 21, 2010, 09:16:09 AM
Haha, funny post. Although I thought Turwig was okay, still weird, but okay looking.><

I'm confused though, what exactly did Nintendo do? >>
I'm a little tired and don't get it,  :eekdance:
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ell Oh Ell on February 21, 2010, 09:20:48 AM
Flaming monkey = Gay person according to Nintendo.

Nintendo is comprised of homophobic terrorists.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ambiance on February 21, 2010, 09:30:44 AM
o.O
But yeah, main thing: Infernape is baaaad  ;D
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: hateichikage on February 22, 2010, 02:49:08 AM
I will narrow this down to the difficulty in making a decision on the starter:

Generation I - Very Difficult (6/9)
Two of the Generation I starters were truly quite amazing... it is almost impossible to choose between Charmander and Squirtle... even though I am a fan of Charmander... Bulbasaur gets a... Meh...

With regard to Yellow Version... Pikachu is so overused that I don't really have superbly strong feelings in that respect. Blasted Rival and stealing the Eevee you should have gotten from Professor Oak...

Generation II - Somewhat Difficult (4/9)
Cyndaquil is rather weak early on... but Quilava and Typhlosion make the journey worthwhile... whereas Totodile is the opposite. Chikorita is not even an option for me... Another fail on Nintendo's part with regard to the grass starter.

Generation III - Rather Simple (8/9)
Treecko made up for the lacking in awesomeness on the part of its grass predecessors, and is my immediate choice. The other two were really quite well done as well... but none compare to my fetish for Fawkesian masks and Grovyle.

Generation IV - Impossible (0/9)
I hated all of the Generation IV starters... Turtwig was a meh... Piplup was a meh... and Chimchar was a FRAWRK!!! The games made up for it with some of the legendaries and Lucario... but the starters are "breath-taking."

All in all I guess you could say Generation III was my favorite... and Generation IV makes me feel mentally unstable inside...


Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ambiance on February 22, 2010, 05:07:53 AM
But the reason Nintendo made some starters hard to use was to make the games slightly more diverse. It is really as simple as catching a Pokemon that covers your starter's weaknesses. I don't know, but I find the games all easy, even as I chose Squirtle, Chikorita, Mudkip and Piplup respectively.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Garlic Man on February 22, 2010, 05:22:41 AM
With regard to Yellow Version... Pikachu is so overused that I don't really have superbly strong feelings in that respect.

You'd think he would be overused since he's the only available one.

Also, I added Pikachu to the poll; he was missing.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: hateichikage on February 23, 2010, 02:14:21 AM
With regard to Yellow Version... Pikachu is so overused that I don't really have superbly strong feelings in that respect.

You'd think he would be overused since he's the only available one.

Also, I added Pikachu to the poll; he was missing.

I more meant the overused respect in terms that random number 25 is the mascot... main Pokémon character in the anime... etc.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Candar on February 23, 2010, 02:47:31 AM
I found Treecko real boring, nothing going on with him.
also, am I the only one who thought Quilava was way cooler than Typhlosion?
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ambiance on February 23, 2010, 05:54:11 AM
With regard to Yellow Version... Pikachu is so overused that I don't really have superbly strong feelings in that respect.

You'd think he would be overused since he's the only available one.

Also, I added Pikachu to the poll; he was missing.

I more meant the overused respect in terms that random number 25 is the mascot... main Pokémon character in the anime... etc.

Clefairy was originally going to be the mascot, but the anime made Pikachu so popular (Pikachu IS cute in the anime) so they changed the mascot to Pikachu.
Due to this fame, Pikachu is portrayed as WAY stronger then he is in the Anime and sometimes even the Pokemon Adventures manga. I personally wished Mew was the mascot >< He was also a contender to be the mascot, I believe, since he WAS the first patented Pokemon (before the games even came close to being released o.O)
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Candar on February 23, 2010, 08:40:08 AM
With regard to Yellow Version... Pikachu is so overused that I don't really have superbly strong feelings in that respect.

You'd think he would be overused since he's the only available one.

Also, I added Pikachu to the poll; he was missing.

I more meant the overused respect in terms that random number 25 is the mascot... main Pokémon character in the anime... etc.

Clefairy was originally going to be the mascot, but the anime made Pikachu so popular (Pikachu IS cute in the anime) so they changed the mascot to Pikachu.
Due to this fame, Pikachu is portrayed as WAY stronger then he is in the Anime and sometimes even the Pokemon Adventures manga. I personally wished Mew was the mascot >< He was also a contender to be the mascot, I believe, since he WAS the first patented Pokemon (before the games even came close to being released o.O)

Anyone notice that Pikachu also seems to get stronger in each generation? He's fairly viable in gen IV, and appropriately you really can't evolve him either if you want him to stay usable.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ambiance on February 24, 2010, 04:45:46 AM
Why can't you evolve him? Certain moves? I always evolved Pikachu whenever I got the chance, if I used Pikachu at all.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Candar on February 24, 2010, 05:28:20 AM
Why can't you evolve him? Certain moves? I always evolved Pikachu whenever I got the chance, if I used Pikachu at all.

Because of light ball. What makes him particularly viable for endgame in gen IV (I can't remember if light ball was in gen III, i don't think so though) is that this item doubles Pikachu's special attack when held, but if you evolve him to Raichu it doesn't work anymore.

Edit:
Correction! It was in gen III and had the exact same effect.

Edit 2:
Oh my goodness it was in gen II also. Pikachu has been playable forever!
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Ambiance on February 25, 2010, 09:25:06 AM
Oh, I see o.O
I was wondering what that item was that Pikachu ALWAYS seemed to have ><
That explains why every time I fought Pikachu, it seemed to do more damage than my own, even at lower levels :P

It's just that I don't know hold items that much, since I rarely ever use any besides leftovers, the choice items and plates :P
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: mtn_otter on February 28, 2010, 01:57:08 AM
Pikachu.  Barely affects Brock, isn't strong enough by the time you get to Misty, and it can't evolve unless you trade it away.  I WANT THAT EEVEE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: pokenutter on May 16, 2010, 05:41:53 PM
Chikorita.  Generation II had some of the best Pokemon, but Chikorita takes the lead for worst starter, closely followed by Piplup, who I can't stand.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Mandi on October 02, 2010, 06:31:41 PM
Piplup wasn't bad. Honestly, he's not exactly cool looking once he evolves, but he's pretty powerful. Actually, I kind of thought that Totoodle was pretty bad.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Gamefreak75 on October 03, 2010, 12:11:11 AM
Piplup wasn't bad. Honestly, he's not exactly cool looking once he evolves, but he's pretty powerful.
I actually thought he looked really cool.

Chikorita is the worst though, imo.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Seritinajii on October 03, 2010, 12:50:06 PM
I picked Piplup; I'm not too far but he's pretty good, I think. And I do like the way Piplup's line works too.

I don't have much experience in gaming but I'd say I dislike Turtwig.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Gormanbros on October 07, 2010, 12:55:49 AM
Chikorita. Wasn't as cool or useful in the early or most gyms. worst choice of GenII
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Peanut64 on October 30, 2010, 04:10:40 PM
I think Ash Ketchum is the worst starter Pokemon.. No attacks..
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Metechar on November 09, 2010, 03:07:26 AM
It's actually usable once it's a Meganium, but in SS, I had so much trouble with the first two gyms! I was SOOOO happy when I beat the first two gyms. Chikorita is the worst. It IS epic when it comes to looks, though! But it sucks when it comes to the battles.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Solar Dragon on November 13, 2010, 12:00:38 PM
Piplup. I always chose the water starter. Once I chose Piplup and tried using it, I knew I made a mistake. It looks bad, it sucks bad and I restarted the game with a Turtwig.

I also hate the fact that there are now three fire/fighting starter evolutions in a row! Think of a new type combo guys!
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: R7308xx on November 15, 2010, 02:15:51 AM
My least favorite starter pokemon is... Octoroks! lolz  ;D
Title: The Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: pikachu8090 on December 21, 2010, 01:41:45 AM
I'd have to say charmander it doesn't learn a lot of fire moves (ember and flamethrower)

You should also add Gen V starters too
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Maxite on December 21, 2010, 01:45:18 AM
Tepig and it's evolved brethren. Lower BST than the other starters, and has same typing as Torchic and Chimchar's families.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: Terra on January 12, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
I voted Pikachu. Because he sucks. And is too overplayed.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: R7308xx on January 12, 2011, 09:25:54 PM
But srsly, Charmander sucks.
Title: Re: Worst Starter Pokemon
Post by: KidIcarus on February 10, 2013, 03:33:41 AM
Any leaf starter sucks. If you want a leaf Pokemon, just catch one at the beginning