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NIWA Community => NIWA Discussion => Topic started by: tacopill on December 10, 2010, 08:32:52 PM
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With the New Year upon us, and NIWA's first anniversary around a corner after that, what do you see in the future for NIWA?
They don't have to be necessarily reasonable, but can't be completely outlandish either.
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Contests, with Nintendo stuff as prizes.
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NIWA buying TV adspace to spread the word.
More seriously, I'd like to see a more coherent community.
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I'd like to see a more coherent community.
This.
Nuff said.
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I predict:
- A NIWA Copyleft license, of our own design and terms more fitting of what we do than the current generic licenses
- More development on mobile skins and apps
- More crosswiki editing
- A list of development ideas by us submitted to MediaWiki developers concerning the core software. (like the fact that we need # that symbol in some page titles, and a lesser used one should take the place of the section urls)
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NIWA should be more than just a simple foru. Maybe a store, newsletter, YouTube channel, and podcast?
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NIWA will merge with wikia.
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NIWA will merge with wikia.
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*shoots himself*
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NIWA will merge with wikia.
No, NIWA will turn into the new Wikia. First it'll start with simple requirements on post counts and content, then it'll be requirements on policy, then we'll be enslaving people and throwing the misfits into the lion pit. Tacopill will be instated as Grand Fuhrer and lead us to a glorious new era of oppression and Quality Excellence (TM)! Vive la revolution! Long live the revolution!
Moving on to a more serious note, I predict that NIWA will open up a bit more in terms of what it allows.
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NIWA will merge with wikia.
No, NIWA will turn into the new Wikia. First it'll start with simple requirements on post counts and content, then it'll be requirements on policy, then we'll be enslaving people and throwing the misfits into the lion pit. Tacopill will be instated as Grand Fuhrer and lead us to a glorious new era of oppression and Quality Excellence (TM)! Vive la revolution! Long live the revolution!
Until he gets overthrown by me, and I'll rule you all with a cruel iron fist! Many will be killed!
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I predict:
- A NIWA Copyleft license, of our own design and terms more fitting of what we do than the current generic licenses
- More development on mobile skins and apps
- More crosswiki editing
- A list of development ideas by us submitted to MediaWiki developers concerning the core software. (like the fact that we need # that symbol in some page titles, and a lesser used one should take the place of the section urls)
All of these. Plus new members, the continuing development of existing members and stronger connections between the wikis.
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(like the fact that we need # that symbol in some page titles, and a lesser used one should take the place of the section urls)[/li][/list]
That's not a MediaWiki thing, it's a HTML thing. Nothing they could do about it. :\
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(like the fact that we need # that symbol in some page titles, and a lesser used one should take the place of the section urls)[/li][/list]
That's not a MediaWiki thing, it's a HTML thing. Nothing they could do about it. :\
This is true. # goes to in-page anchors & links.....
See: http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-6816.html
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A NIWA Copyleft license, of our own design and terms more fitting of what we do than the current generic licenses
What would the benefit of such a license be?
Bear in mind you'd be weighing any benefits against the significant downside of not being able to import CC-by-SA material.
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I've said this before, but I would like to see NIWA expand into video games in general. With the imminent fall of Wikia, there's too many potentially good non-Nintendo wikis that are about to be orphaned. Then again, my opinion doesn't really matter in this case. If Grand Fuhrer/Kaiser/Emperor/Czar Tacopill(Maxite knows it will happen, at least) wants it that way, it will be that way.
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I've said this before, but I would like to see NIWA expand into video games in general. With the imminent fall of Wikia, there's too many potentially good non-Nintendo wikis that are about to be orphaned. Then again, my opinion doesn't really matter in this case. If Grand Fuhrer/Kaiser/Emperor/Czar Tacopill(Maxite knows it will happen, at least) wants it that way, it will be that way.
I think that an independent video game wiki alliance would most likely be formed outside of NIWA. It's true that it could include all the NIWA members, but that doesn't mean that NIWA has to be the one to form such a large alliance. I think that NIWA is doing the best at what it aims to to, which is unite independent Nintendo wikis.
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Should any alliance of independent wikis form, be it video games of a more expansive "independent wikis" alliance, then I say that NIWA should be involved. Yes, we have our niche, but we should also be supportive of others with similar goals, just as we hope they'd be supportive of us.
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my plan, and i hope other's will join/help me in this, is to:
1) help form SEIWA (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Square_Enix_Portal), pending KH Wikia revote (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Revote).
2) help Archaic form an inter-IWA organization; with NIWA and SEIWA being it's first members.
3a) Contact other potential IWA's out there, to see if they would be interested in joining (Including a possible Sega one, and a Rare one).
3b) Help other IWA's form based on information i have been gathering here on the forums and in skype chats. (Yes, this would include CIWA (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=617.msg11490#msg11490)), and when they are ready, have them join as well.
While i like the thought of NIWA of just opening our arms and inviting every wiki out there to be a member, i also realize that their should be a limit to how big we get and how inclusive we are;
Without some kind of limits in place, in my opinion, our current community would start to marginalize and divide itself, instead of become more united under a common interest.
(Not to mention, could you image what the main page would look like if we had twice or three times as many wiki's? the latter half of the alphabet would hardly get any traffic from here).
Anyway, this is my opinion and plan. What do you think?
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my plan, and i hope other's will join/help me in this, is to:
1) help form SEIWA (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Square_Enix_Portal), pending KH Wikia revote (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Revote).
2) help Archaic form an inter-IWA organization; with NIWA and SEIWA being it's first members.
3a) Contact other potential IWA's out there, to see if they would be interested in joining (Including a possible Sega one, and a Rare one).
3b) Help other IWA's form based on information i have been gathering here on the forums and in skype chats. (Yes, this would include CIWA (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=617.msg11490#msg11490)), and when they are ready, have them join as well.
While i like the thought of NIWA of just opening our arms and inviting every wiki out there to be a member, i also realize that their should be a limit to how big we get and how inclusive we are;
Without some kind of limits in place, in my opinion, our current community would start to marginalize and divide itself, instead of become more united under a common interest.
(Not to mention, could you image what the main page would look like if we had twice or three times as many wiki's? the latter half of the alphabet would hardly get any traffic from here).
Anyway, this is my opinion and plan. What do you think?
I support this plan - the only thing is, the forming of other IWA's should be based on the decisions of the wikis that make up the IWA, not an outside influence (us). Propose the idea to them, then sit back and watch as they make their decision themselves, helping them if they ask for help. This seems like what we've been doing with KH Wikia, which is good. Let's make sure we maintain this approach as we continue with this long term project.
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my plan, and i hope other's will join/help me in this, is to:
1) help form SEIWA (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Square_Enix_Portal), pending KH Wikia revote (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Revote).
2) help Archaic form an inter-IWA organization; with NIWA and SEIWA being it's first members.
3a) Contact other potential IWA's out there, to see if they would be interested in joining (Including a possible Sega one, and a Rare one).
3b) Help other IWA's form based on information i have been gathering here on the forums and in skype chats. (Yes, this would include CIWA (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=617.msg11490#msg11490)), and when they are ready, have them join as well.
While i like the thought of NIWA of just opening our arms and inviting every wiki out there to be a member, i also realize that their should be a limit to how big we get and how inclusive we are;
Without some kind of limits in place, in my opinion, our current community would start to marginalize and divide itself, instead of become more united under a common interest.
(Not to mention, could you image what the main page would look like if we had twice or three times as many wiki's? the latter half of the alphabet would hardly get any traffic from here).
Anyway, this is my opinion and plan. What do you think?
You have my ax!
More seriously (and moving away from LotR memes), it will take a lot of work to get new IWAs up and running. We should also focus more outside of the video gaming realm once we have SEIWA up. There is a ton of anime related wikis, and getting those to start up their own IWA would be another blow to Wikia and a big claim to fame for our cause. Not only that, but Bulbapedia has an extensive anime section, so they could arguably help set up that IWA.
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Sounds good guys.
In case you are wondering, my involvement in the Kingdom Hearts Wiki (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&showall=0&target=Bud0011) is to help clear up misconceptions as well as help represent the idea of going the independent.
When i speak with the guys of forming an IWA, i speak with them of what NIWA does, how it works and such. I mention to them that they don't have to follow our model exactly, but then someone mentions how our model works (or at least, some of the parts, of which varies from person to person).
So, I apologize if i am influencing them more than i should be. If you guys think i should, i will scale back my involvement.
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I have no honest clue how NIWA is actually set up and organized. I always imagined it was a "loose confederation" style of group, or a glorified affiliation. If they want to try something different, let them do it (to within reasonable boundaries). Unless you're threatening, harassing or demeaning members (or encouraging others to do the same), I see no problem with you putting forth arguments.
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Teddy Bearz...NAO!
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Sounds good guys.
In case you are wondering, my involvement in the Kingdom Hearts Wiki (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&showall=0&target=Bud0011) is to help clear up misconceptions as well as help represent the idea of going the independent.
When i speak with the guys of forming an IWA, i speak with them of what NIWA does, how it works and such. I mention to them that they don't have to follow our model exactly, but then someone mentions how our model works (or at least, some of the parts, of which varies from person to person).
So, I apologize if i am influencing them more than i should be. If you guys think i should, i will scale back my involvement.
You don't need to apologize. Without your involvement, it would be quite less likely that SEIWA would exist ;D. What I meant by my last post was that we shouldn't force them or pester them about making certain decisions, they should do it themselves. We can answer questions and clarify the way we do things, but then they can decide how they want to use the information we give them. In this particular case, it seems the users want to make their own progress, which is ideal. Now we just sit back and watch while they conduct their revote.
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Haha, it's wayyyyyyyy easier to see where NIWA is going if you have access to staff forums ;) NIWA isn't just a hub and a forum. I wish there was a way we could show that without revealing useless info or sensitive info (like a suggested member, but not approved yet)
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Haha, it's wayyyyyyyy easier to see where NIWA is going if you have access to staff forums ;) NIWA isn't just a hub and a forum. I wish there was a way we could show that without revealing useless info or sensitive info (like a suggested member, but not approved yet)
My vision: NIWA becomes completely boggled down in bureaucracy............. and ends up becoming nothing more than a glorified affiliation with big dreams that never come to fruitation.
(Read: I can't be the only non-staff person that is getting sick and tired of hearing the words "staff forum", as it seems everything is discussed behind closed doors. Not quite a "community" but instead a group of wiki owners deciding for everyone...)
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Maybe NIWA could have "NIWA Staff" beyond Xizor that can have access to those closed door staff forums, and offer those positions to notable board members.
But otherwise, yes, I am getting tired of hearing about the staff forum constantly, and how it supposedly would change the way we see NIWA if regular members could see it. Well, here's the facts:
1. Regular members can't see the staff board
2. Claims require proof
Staff members can claim all they want that "it's a closer knit community on the staff boards", but since that can't be demonstrated to the regular members it has no value and is just a garbage statement (re: spam).
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Haha, it's wayyyyyyyy easier to see where NIWA is going if you have access to staff forums ;) NIWA isn't just a hub and a forum. I wish there was a way we could show that without revealing useless info or sensitive info (like a suggested member, but not approved yet)
So basically the reason for this thread is to keep us non-staffers busy speculating while the rest of you know exactly what's going on. Thanks a bunch.
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Not exactly. No one can tell what's going to happen in a couple years, and I have no idea what is happening soon either.
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Haha, it's wayyyyyyyy easier to see where NIWA is going if you have access to staff forums ;) NIWA isn't just a hub and a forum. I wish there was a way we could show that without revealing useless info or sensitive info (like a suggested member, but not approved yet)
My vision: NIWA becomes completely boggled down in bureaucracy............. and ends up becoming nothing more than a glorified affiliation with big dreams that never come to fruitation.
(Read: I can't be the only non-staff person that is getting sick and tired of hearing the words "staff forum", as it seems everything is discussed behind closed doors. Not quite a "community" but instead a group of wiki owners deciding for everyone...)
Maybe NIWA could have "NIWA Staff" beyond Xizor that can have access to those closed door staff forums, and offer those positions to notable board members.
But otherwise, yes, I am getting tired of hearing about the staff forum constantly, and how it supposedly would change the way we see NIWA if regular members could see it. Well, here's the facts:
1. Regular members can't see the staff board
2. Claims require proof
Staff members can claim all they want that "it's a closer knit community on the staff boards", but since that can't be demonstrated to the regular members it has no value and is just a garbage statement (re: spam).
Haha, it's wayyyyyyyy easier to see where NIWA is going if you have access to staff forums ;) NIWA isn't just a hub and a forum. I wish there was a way we could show that without revealing useless info or sensitive info (like a suggested member, but not approved yet)
So basically the reason for this thread is to keep us non-staffers busy speculating while the rest of you know exactly what's going on. Thanks a bunch.
I agree, and it's actually very ironic considering wikis are collaborative projects that are typically open to all.
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As someone who has only recently found out about the seeecret forums (I didn't realise I could see them :D) I must point out that they really aren't as elite and exciting as some of you are imagining.
A large part of it is comprised of suggestions (like this thread, but not organised all in one place). Many of the ideas going on there have been discussed in the public boards already (a general Nintendo wiki, SEIWA, etc.) and then simply become more clearly defined in private before the big public reveal of the final product. NintendoWiki is a prime example of this; it was first set up in May, but those months of secret development meant that it was able to launch in a detailed and impressive state.
Holding the wiki membership discussions privately has its advantages as well. Not every proposed member will actually end up joining (for a variety of reasons), so this way people don't get their hopes up about something that might not happen. There's also the added fun of guessing which wiki might be revealed next. :)
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As someone who has only recently found out about the seeecret forums (I didn't realise I could see them :D) I must point out that they really aren't as elite and exciting as some of you are imagining.
Still, the knowledge that what I can see isn't everything irks me.
A large part of it is comprised of suggestions (like this thread, but not organised all in one place). Many of the ideas going on there have been discussed in the public boards already (a general Nintendo wiki, SEIWA, etc.) and then simply become more clearly defined in private before the big public reveal of the final product.
Yeah, I've always wondered - some of those conversations don't seem to get finished on the public boards. Now I understand.
NintendoWiki is a prime example of this; it was first set up in May, but those months of secret development meant that it was able to launch in a detailed and impressive state.
I'm really sorry for saying this, but I don't know that I would call N-wiki's status "detailed and impressive" just quite yet. There's quite a bit of room to grow, though I'm sure it's more impressive now than it would have been in, say, September.
Holding the wiki membership discussions privately has its advantages as well. Not every proposed member will actually end up joining (for a variety of reasons), so this way people don't get their hopes up about something that might not happen.
But I'd still like to know what happened :P. Take Fantendo, for instance. I've heard nothing beyond the fact that the interaction with them didn't end so well.
There's also the added fun of guessing which wiki might be revealed next. :)
Yes, this exists. However, it's not very hard to guess which one is next. I've predicted correctly almost every time.
Sorry for dissecting your post :(. I suppose it's not a tragedy that we can't see everything, but it gets annoying when you all are like "We can't tell you yet. Teehee ;D".
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Holding the wiki membership discussions privately has its advantages as well. Not every proposed member will actually end up joining (for a variety of reasons), so this way people don't get their hopes up about something that might not happen.
But I'd still like to know what happened :P. Take Fantendo, for instance. I've heard nothing beyond the fact that the interaction with them didn't end so well.
Maybe you can ask a staff member. I'm pretty sure I can give some things away if they are just not anything major though I'll have to ask before I know I can for sure. You could also do independent research, such as going to Fantendo itself to see what happened.
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Haha, it's wayyyyyyyy easier to see where NIWA is going if you have access to staff forums ;) NIWA isn't just a hub and a forum. I wish there was a way we could show that without revealing useless info or sensitive info (like a suggested member, but not approved yet)
So basically the reason for this thread is to keep us non-staffers busy speculating while the rest of you know exactly what's going on. Thanks a bunch.
So, i guess it's time i reveal my purpose with this thread.
1) Yes, i threw it together to keep you speculating. But not my purpose wasn't to raise peoples hopes for something that would never happen (although, that my happen anyway); my purpose was to create a thread where one could openly say what one hopes happens in the future, without other people saying how they are "looking too far ahead".
2) With the third wave/generation/thing pretty much coming to a close, the excitement of "OMG NEW MEMBER" will soon start to die down. For me, this could means that I now turn my focus to improving the community we currently have, rather than trying to on growing it. Exactly how i i should go about this, i was looking for in your messages. And there were quite a few good ideas.
Anyway, some comments on other things.
A)I am aware there is a divide between the staff and the regular members. A rather big one. And unfortunately, there is little more that i can do then encourage people on one side to participate with other.
But, at the same time, This is why i choose to be involved on both sides. Your side, because you fans are our primary audience; and the staff side, because i like being helpful.
B) It's good to know i don't have to scale back my involvement with KH and SEIWA.
C) From what I've heard, Fantendo was a spectualur mess. It happened before i joined; and even though I've been staff since October, i still don't know all the details. And in the interest of protecting the innocent, i won't say anything else.
Still, it does prove there is a major communication error on the part of the staff. We need to tell you guys of the ideas that we decline, so we don't leave you in the dark.
D) While i Maybe splitting my focus a little too much here, but I have started to form groups of interested users (such as this one (http://niwanetwork.org/wiki/index.php/NintendoWiki:Interwiki_(Link)_Task_Force)), whose goal(s) is/are to form stronger bonds between the wikis.
If you would like to join one, that's great. I welcome you aboard.
But if instead, you have an idea for a new one, then please tell me. Not that it's required to pass by me, but if you tell me, and i think it's good as well, I will try my best to gather support and related tools to help improve your idea's chances of success.
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Well I speculate that the community is going to be a bit sore until the staff get their A game on and realize that they created a community with a public face, and that you have to spend some effort in keeping that public face happy. If Xizor is too busy dealing with other matters, then another officer needs to be appointed (or elected) to handle the public face of NIWA in keeping them happy, informed, and organized, as well as getting them involved.
Also tacopill: You use "me" and "I" a lot in your thread. Are you trying to hint at something?
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As someone who has only recently found out about the seeecret forums (I didn't realise I could see them :D) I must point out that they really aren't as elite and exciting as some of you are imagining.
If it's nothing special, then why the secrecy?
NintendoWiki is a prime example of this; it was first set up in May, but those months of secret development meant that it was able to launch in a detailed and impressive state.
It was in an impressive state when it launched, but think of where it could be now if it had been public the six months prior.
Not every proposed member will actually end up joining (for a variety of reasons), so this way people don't get their hopes up about something that might not happen.
Oh.... this may just be NIWA's most valid reason. Thank you NIWA for shielding my fragile heart from the potential disappointments of getting my hopes up...
There's also the added fun of guessing which wiki might be revealed next. :)
but can't this get my hopes up too?!?! ???
Well I speculate that the community is going to be a bit sore until the staff get their A game on and realize that they created a community with a public face, and that you have to spend some effort in keeping that public face happy.
Yes, especially because a wiki, by nature, relies on its community.
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There is a ton of anime related wikis, and getting those to start up their own IWA would be another blow to Wikia and a big claim to fame for our cause. Not only that, but Bulbapedia has an extensive anime section, so they could arguably help set up that IWA.
We intend to. ;)
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If it gets made, would it be called AIWA or ANIWA? Because the latter sounds more like anime or animation.
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Probably "AIWA", because I can spin that in Japanese as ?? (Ai wa, "Love is...") or ?? (Ai Wa "Love and Peace"). Would be especially appropriate if I can find an independent Macross wiki to be a founding member, since then it'd be a reference to "Do you remember love?".
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There is a ton of anime related wikis, and getting those to start up their own IWA would be another blow to Wikia and a big claim to fame for our cause. Not only that, but Bulbapedia has an extensive anime section, so they could arguably help set up that IWA.
We intend to. ;)
would the Kirby and soon to be F-Zero would be part of AIWA?
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If it gets made, I'm probably going to be heavily involved in it. Anime and manga are more of my forte.
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Well I speculate that the community is going to be a bit sore until the staff get their A game on and realize that they created a community with a public face, and that you have to spend some effort in keeping that public face happy. If Xizor is too busy dealing with other matters, then another officer needs to be appointed (or elected) to handle the public face of NIWA in keeping them happy, informed, and organized, as well as getting them involved.
A little harsh, but the truth often is.
Anyway, since most of the things you bring up i agree with i will do my best to see that it gets done, if i haven't been doing so already.
Also tacopill: You use "me" and "I" a lot in your thread. Are you trying to hint at something?
Sorry, but no. I am not hinting at anything. I place I b/c 1) i feel more comfortable talking in the first person and 2) so no one accidentally interprets me as the spokesperson of the staff.
I am not an elected representative of this organization, nor do i have the authority to implement any good ideas you guys have.
*apologizes for the tone he has taken*
There is a ton of anime related wikis, and getting those to start up their own IWA would be another blow to Wikia and a big claim to fame for our cause. Not only that, but Bulbapedia has an extensive anime section, so they could arguably help set up that IWA.
We intend to. ;)
would the Kirby and soon to be F-Zero would be part of AIWA?
I would certainly like to see that.
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There is a ton of anime related wikis, and getting those to start up their own IWA would be another blow to Wikia and a big claim to fame for our cause. Not only that, but Bulbapedia has an extensive anime section, so they could arguably help set up that IWA.
We intend to. ;)
would the Kirby and soon to be F-Zero would be part of AIWA?
I can say this about F-Zero, with the state it's in now, no. Maybe in the not-so-near future it can be a possibility. We need people who have actually seen the anime apart from the clip where Captain Falcon falcon punches Black Shadow.
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There is a ton of anime related wikis, and getting those to start up their own IWA would be another blow to Wikia and a big claim to fame for our cause. Not only that, but Bulbapedia has an extensive anime section, so they could arguably help set up that IWA.
We intend to. ;)
would the Kirby and soon to be F-Zero would be part of AIWA?
I can say this about F-Zero, with the state it's in now, no. Maybe in the not-so-near future it can be a possibility. We need people who have actually seen the anime apart from the clip where Captain Falcon falcon punches Black Shadow.
This is true. Any one up for making a thread "Has anyone seen the F-Zero Anime"?
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I have to say that although there are forums and such that have private information on them that would be best restricted, there is a huge amount of stuff on the staff boards that could easily be opened up for the rest of the users to view. I think there should be something like a "restricted" button/tag for staff members to hide certain information in comments. This way the non-staff members can tell what's going on in the conversation, but secrets/private info can be hidden.
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my plan, and i hope other's will join/help me in this, is to:
1) help form SEIWA (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Square_Enix_Portal), pending KH Wikia revote (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Revote).
2) help Archaic form an inter-IWA organization; with NIWA and SEIWA being it's first members.
3a) Contact other potential IWA's out there, to see if they would be interested in joining (Including a possible Sega one, and a Rare one).
3b) Help other IWA's form based on information i have been gathering here on the forums and in skype chats. (Yes, this would include CIWA (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=617.msg11490#msg11490)), and when they are ready, have them join as well.
While i like the thought of NIWA of just opening our arms and inviting every wiki out there to be a member, i also realize that their should be a limit to how big we get and how inclusive we are;
Without some kind of limits in place, in my opinion, our current community would start to marginalize and divide itself, instead of become more united under a common interest.
(Not to mention, could you image what the main page would look like if we had twice or three times as many wiki's? the latter half of the alphabet would hardly get any traffic from here).
Anyway, this is my opinion and plan. What do you think?
I support this plan - the only thing is, the forming of other IWA's should be based on the decisions of the wikis that make up the IWA, not an outside influence (us). Propose the idea to them, then sit back and watch as they make their decision themselves, helping them if they ask for help. This seems like what we've been doing with KH Wikia, which is good. Let's make sure we maintain this approach as we continue with this long term project.
I like the idea, but what is SEIWA?
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my plan, and i hope other's will join/help me in this, is to:
1) help form SEIWA (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Square_Enix_Portal), pending KH Wikia revote (http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Revote).
2) help Archaic form an inter-IWA organization; with NIWA and SEIWA being it's first members.
3a) Contact other potential IWA's out there, to see if they would be interested in joining (Including a possible Sega one, and a Rare one).
3b) Help other IWA's form based on information i have been gathering here on the forums and in skype chats. (Yes, this would include CIWA (http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=617.msg11490#msg11490)), and when they are ready, have them join as well.
While i like the thought of NIWA of just opening our arms and inviting every wiki out there to be a member, i also realize that their should be a limit to how big we get and how inclusive we are;
Without some kind of limits in place, in my opinion, our current community would start to marginalize and divide itself, instead of become more united under a common interest.
(Not to mention, could you image what the main page would look like if we had twice or three times as many wiki's? the latter half of the alphabet would hardly get any traffic from here).
Anyway, this is my opinion and plan. What do you think?
I support this plan - the only thing is, the forming of other IWA's should be based on the decisions of the wikis that make up the IWA, not an outside influence (us). Propose the idea to them, then sit back and watch as they make their decision themselves, helping them if they ask for help. This seems like what we've been doing with KH Wikia, which is good. Let's make sure we maintain this approach as we continue with this long term project.
I like the idea, but what is SEIWA?
SEIWA is the name we use for referring to the "Square Enix Independent Wiki Alliance", that members of the Kingdom Hearts wiki are trying to form.
See the following links for more info.
http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=387.0
http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Square_Enix_Portal
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*bumping*
Woo... haven't posted here in a while.
If you aren't aware, SEIWA has been launched! Please check them out at http://www.seiwanetwork.org/.
Thanks everyone.
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It works!
This is the default web page for this server.
The web server software is running but no
content has been added, yet.
Looks like you're having a bit of a problem there. However, if I remove the "www", http://seiwanetwork.org/ works.
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It works!
This is the default web page for this server.
The web server software is running but no
content has been added, yet.
Looks like you're having a bit of a problem there. However, if I remove the "www", http://seiwanetwork.org/ works.
do you happen to know how to fix that?
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It works!
This is the default web page for this server.
The web server software is running but no
content has been added, yet.
Looks like you're having a bit of a problem there. However, if I remove the "www", http://seiwanetwork.org/ works.
do you happen to know how to fix that?
You need to edit the Virtual Host file for seiwanetwork.org
Assuming you created them like I think you did you should be able to do:
nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/seiwanetwork.org
Add
ServerAlias www.seiwanetwork.org
After
ServerName seiwanetwork.org
Then save (reminder below):
CTRL + X
Y
Enter
/etc/init.d/apache2 reload
Done
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It seems bulbagarden forums has been blocked... I cannot access it, and I know for sure that the Nintendo DSi can't block it, and no filtering service is used at all. It's not a blackout is it? If it was, I'm sure bulbapedia would be blocked too. There was a politics thread, is that why it was attacked? A non-profit site, made of the most valuable customers of LISCENCED Pokemon merchandise.
A single layer BluRay can hold over 24 hours worth of footage at 60fps at 720p; a dual layer Blue Ray could hold all 15 Pokemon movies at 1080i, If thy release a BlueRay with just the four uncut D/P movies and all 4 uncut seasons, I'd buy it, assuming they've added a comentary for each one, (& subtitled Japanese commentaries)
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http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/
Odd, I can access it fine.
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It works!
This is the default web page for this server.
The web server software is running but no
content has been added, yet.
Looks like you're having a bit of a problem there. However, if I remove the "www", http://seiwanetwork.org/ works.
do you happen to know how to fix that?
You need to edit the Virtual Host file for seiwanetwork.org
Assuming you created them like I think you did you should be able to do:
nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/seiwanetwork.org
Add
ServerAlias www.seiwanetwork.org
After
ServerName seiwanetwork.org
Then save (reminder below):
CTRL + X
Y
Enter
/etc/init.d/apache2 reload
Done
Alright done and implented. Let's hope it works.
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Still not working for me.