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Title: SSB Coverage
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on December 28, 2010, 04:47:08 PM
Remind me again why MarioWiki has an article on Snake...?

I swear, MarioWiki's coverage of Smash will always seem suspect to me.
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: BrandedOne on December 28, 2010, 07:46:52 PM
'Cause it fits their coverage policy (http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Coverage) (which seems too extensive, but eh, what can you do? :P).
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on December 28, 2010, 09:25:28 PM
*is still whistling*

Well, it is under our coverage policy and nobody's complained yet.
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on December 28, 2010, 09:31:34 PM
I mostly am irritated that other non-NIWA sites, doing interwiki links regarding Smash content, go to MARIOWiki and not SMASHWiki.  And that there have been two Featured Articles of late on MarioWiki from Smash topics.

Sorry for derailing your thread, WiKirbians. :O
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on December 28, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
I agree, SmashWiki has all that Tier and strategy stuff, their articles are definitely better than ours.
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: Jake on December 28, 2010, 09:58:41 PM
It's really all a matter of popularity. Some people may not think to look beyond the borders of MarioWiki for more specific information. That's why interwiki linking helps, and as far as I can tell, MarioWiki isn't linking to SmashWiki at all on their SSB pages. :(
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: Miles of SmashWiki on December 28, 2010, 10:22:31 PM
as far as I can tell, MarioWiki isn't linking to SmashWiki at all on their SSB pages. :(

And yet SmashWiki is linking to MarioWiki on pretty much ALL of our Mario-, Yoshi-, and Wario-related pages.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: Tucayo on December 30, 2010, 10:19:33 PM
Remind me again why MarioWiki has an article on Snake...?

I swear, MarioWiki's coverage of Smash will always seem suspect to me.
Because it is an extended part of the Mario series, and we cover everything related to the mario series, that includes Super Smash Bros. And because our Coverage says so, we are a wiki covering the Mario series, and being Nintendo's mascot, they have sub-series, and series related, and cameos and all that. So we cover them all. Even Banjo and Conker. In some way. People have complained, but we aren't changing it
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: tacopill on January 01, 2011, 08:39:28 AM
Remind me again why MarioWiki has an article on Snake...?

I swear, MarioWiki's coverage of Smash will always seem suspect to me.
Because it is an extended part of the Mario series, and we cover everything related to the mario series, that includes Super Smash Bros. And because our Coverage says so, we are a wiki covering the Mario series, and being Nintendo's mascot, they have sub-series, and series related, and cameos and all that. So we cover them all. Even Banjo and Conker. In some way. People have complained, but we aren't changing it

If you don't mind me asking it, why not?
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on January 01, 2011, 09:57:41 PM
Remind me again why MarioWiki has an article on Snake...?

I swear, MarioWiki's coverage of Smash will always seem suspect to me.
Because it is an extended part of the Mario series, and we cover everything related to the mario series, that includes Super Smash Bros. And because our Coverage says so, we are a wiki covering the Mario series, and being Nintendo's mascot, they have sub-series, and series related, and cameos and all that. So we cover them all. Even Banjo and Conker. In some way. People have complained, but we aren't changing it

If you don't mind me asking it, why not?
Because it is under our coverage policy, we are not changing our coverage policy just because we joined NIWA.
Title: Re: WiKirby History Hole
Post by: tacopill on January 02, 2011, 06:01:35 AM
Remind me again why MarioWiki has an article on Snake...?

I swear, MarioWiki's coverage of Smash will always seem suspect to me.
Because it is an extended part of the Mario series, and we cover everything related to the mario series, that includes Super Smash Bros. And because our Coverage says so, we are a wiki covering the Mario series, and being Nintendo's mascot, they have sub-series, and series related, and cameos and all that. So we cover them all. Even Banjo and Conker. In some way. People have complained, but we aren't changing it

If you don't mind me asking it, why not?
Because it is under our coverage policy, we are not changing our coverage policy just because we joined NIWA.

Would you change it if the MarioWiki Community asked you to?
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: dany36 on January 02, 2011, 07:09:23 PM
He said some people have already complained and they haven't changed it, so...I doubt it? :P
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: Maxite on January 02, 2011, 09:26:12 PM
Yes, but the phrase "the MarioWiki Community" is generally not referring to a few people. On a subject matter like this, I would suppose that if the majority of the community wanted the scope changed, it would be done. The question is: Does the community want it changed?
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: Tucayo on January 04, 2011, 08:05:57 PM
They don't
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: tacopill on January 05, 2011, 08:53:53 PM
They don't

Have you (or anyone) asked them?

The reason i ask, is not to intice. Rather, i have a feeling there is at least one member of the Mario Wiki communitunity wondering why the wiki covers Smash Bros. It's one of the "there is alway one in a group" things.

And before anyone thinks or says it: I am not suggesting NIWA come in and decide for them. I am just talking about the possibility for Mario Wiki choosing for itself to change its content policy.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: porplemontage on January 05, 2011, 09:38:19 PM
Well, we've had the same coverage policy for several years now and it seems alright. I've thought about adding more coverage, but I don't want to get too crazy.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: Maxite on January 05, 2011, 09:42:21 PM
Frankly, I'm not too sure what the concern is over the broad expanse of MarioWiki's coverage? Is it hindering Smash Wiki in some way, or is this just a case of difference of opinions? I haven't seen DKWiki get overly concerned with MarioWiki's coverage.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: tacopill on January 06, 2011, 11:25:10 PM
I think it's mostly a difference of opinion.


Well, we've had the same coverage policy for several years now and it seems alright. I've thought about adding more coverage, but I don't want to get too crazy.

if the topic has been brought up by the community, they discussed it,  and then they decided to keep it - then cool. All the power to them.

If not, then my question is: why not?
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: porplemontage on January 07, 2011, 01:54:37 AM
Oh, we've had a ton of proposals and discussions regarding coverage. What we cover now is the result of those discussions.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: tacopill on January 08, 2011, 02:58:45 AM
Oh, we've had a ton of proposals and discussions regarding coverage. What we cover now is the result of those discussions.

Ah, ok. Cool then.

Consider me satisfied in this topic.
Title: Re: SSB coverage
Post by: Reboot on January 08, 2011, 05:31:56 AM
That's why interwiki linking helps, and as far as I can tell, MarioWiki isn't linking to SmashWiki at all on their SSB pages. :(
Fixed! :)

[Seriously, this is one of those "don't complain about it, change it" things - I've been through most of the major MarioWiki SSB pages over the past week (including Subspace Army & characters), put at least one and frequently more [[SmashWiki:*]] links on each (along with adding links to other relevant NIWA wikis when I remembered, and a few small fixes), and not once has there been a reversion over it. Closest I came was someone not noticing those links, then reverting himself because "nvm hes puuting links on SmashWiki which is good" before I even noticed it had been changed.]
Title: Re: SSB coverage
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on January 08, 2011, 07:08:17 PM
That's why interwiki linking helps, and as far as I can tell, MarioWiki isn't linking to SmashWiki at all on their SSB pages. :(
Fixed! :)

[Seriously, this is one of those "don't complain about it, change it" things - I've been through most of the major MarioWiki SSB pages over the past week (including Subspace Army & characters), put at least one and frequently more [[SmashWiki:*]] links on each (along with adding links to other relevant NIWA wikis when I remembered, and a few small fixes), and not once has there been a reversion over it. Closest I came was someone not noticing those links, then reverting himself because "nvm hes puuting links on SmashWiki which is good" before I even noticed it had been changed.]
Yet little did you know that a day before we had a discussion in the admin boards (on this topic) and decided that we would add SmashWiki links to the pages ourselves. I'm pretty sure any admins would have remembered that conversation and said "OK" - I know I did.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: Axiomist on January 08, 2011, 07:09:13 PM
Seriously, this is one of those "don't complain about it, change it" things -

That's exactly what I was thinking. I haven't picked up an SSB game, and have tons of other things to do on WiKirby. So if anyone has the time to add interwiki links to SmashWiki, you'll have my appreciation  ;)
Title: Re: SSB coverage
Post by: Reboot on January 08, 2011, 09:25:10 PM
Yet little did you know that a day before we had a discussion in the admin boards (on this topic) and decided that we would add SmashWiki links to the pages ourselves. I'm pretty sure any admins would have remembered that conversation and said "OK" - I know I did.
The day before yesterday, or the day before I started [i.e., the 31st of December or earlier, since I started on the first of Jan]?

[Either way, 'course I didn't know :)]
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: Reboot on January 09, 2011, 03:59:59 PM
And having said that, User:MeritC is now going through and reverting all of the links I added... if the staff have agreed to put SmashWiki links on pages, someone should have a word with him.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: tacopill on January 09, 2011, 07:34:45 PM
And having said that, User:MeritC is now going through and reverting all of the links I added...

That's sad to hear.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: Nintendoguy1 on January 09, 2011, 11:43:58 PM
And having said that, User:MeritC is now going through and reverting all of the links I added...

That's sad to hear.
OK, I spoke to him.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: Reboot on January 10, 2011, 09:07:40 PM
And having said that, User:MeritC is now going through and reverting all of the links I added...
That's sad to hear.
Oh, I reverted back, I just didn't want to end up in a revert war...

OK, I spoke to him.
Ta.
Title: Re: SSB Coverage
Post by: tacopill on January 11, 2011, 08:26:55 PM
And having said that, User:MeritC is now going through and reverting all of the links I added...
That's sad to hear.
Oh, I reverted back, I just didn't want to end up in a revert war...

Sounds good. And i looked at the edits, i think they are good. Thank you for doing it.