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NIWA Community => Nintendo Gaming => Super Smash Bros => Topic started by: Tattletale1 on February 02, 2011, 12:17:55 AM
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What 3rd party Character qualifies as a Smasher or AT?
Here are the rules Sakurai, the creator of Smash Bros. laid down...
1. Character must have first appeared in a video game, (Not an Anime, TV, Movie or Cartoon)
2. Character must have appeared in at least one (or more) game on a Nintendo System,
3. Character must have the ability to fight, in order to be playable, no nonsense characters such as "Tetris Block"
For Chun Li, Ruyo assist TrophySpyro, Sparks attacks with Spyro, AT- Hunter (a lepord?)
Crash, uses Aku Aku as Shield/ grab attacks - AT Coco Bandicoot in Spaceship Fighter,Blaze the Cat ATSonic Riders Stage Featuring the Babylon Rouges
The poll contains my favorites & non-favorites that I know qualify, Tak appeared in a Video Game 3 years before he had a Nicktoon. Crash Bandicoot was great before that Gamecube game I've never played was overshadowed by Nintendo Favorites.
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I don't really care for third parties in Smash, but a Dragon Quest character would be nice.
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1. Character must have first appeared in a video game, (Not an Anime, TV, Movie or Cartoon)
2. Character must have appeared in at least one (or more) game on a Nintendo System,
3. Character must have the ability to fight by themselves, in order to be a playable smasher, no nonsense characters such as "Tetris Block"
Source for these "rules"?
Anyways, goddamned Mega Man.
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1. Character must have first appeared in a video game, (Not an Anime, TV, Movie or Cartoon)
2. Character must have appeared in at least one (or more) game on a Nintendo System,
3. Character must have the ability to fight by themselves, in order to be a playable smasher, no nonsense characters such as "Tetris Block"
:'( I feel very sad that "Tetris Block" would not make the cut.
Characters
- Snake
- Sonic
- Sora
- Crash Bandicoot
- Mega Man
- Mega Man X
- and Maybe Spyro
Assist Trophies
- Pacman
- Spyro
- Tak
- Mega Man.EXE
There's more, but i can't think of it at the moment.
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What? No Tetris! Tetris was one of the more famous games for the original Gameboy. I think that Tetris blocks would be apt.
One of the Harvest Moon/Rune Factory protagonists would be nice as well. Attacking the enemy with a hoe and a watering can would be funny to watch.
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Megaman should be in it B/C he start on a nintendo system
Sonic need to stay on
Snake might b/c he was going to be on ssbm but the game was too far into development.
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Please post about your favorite enemies & sidekicks you'd like as Assist Trophies...
& 3rd Party items like the N64 bomb one from 007 Goldeneye,
You can also talk about 3rd Party music (video game origin, on Nintendo System, or just appeared in a non DK Konga Nintendo 1st party)
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Please post about your favorite enemies & sidekicks you'd like as Assist Trophies...
& 3rd Party items like the N64 bomb one from 007 Goldeneye,
You can also talk about 3rd Party music (video game origin, on Nintendo System, or just appeared in a non DK Konga Nintendo 1st party)
we weren't doing this? or are you expanding the scope of the thread?
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wat
Also, I don't care what the OP says HARUHI FOR SSB4. >:C
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wat
Also, I don't care what the OP says HARUHI FOR SSB4. >:C
what part of my question, didn't you understand? I can elaborate on them for you.
Also, what's an "OP"?
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OP - Original Poster
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Arthur, anyone? G'NGs?
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Arthur?
Who the H-?
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You've never played Ghouls 'n Ghosts?!
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I've play super ghost and ghouls on the SNES are they close related?
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Please post about your favorite enemies & sidekicks you'd like as Assist Trophies...
& 3rd Party items like the N64 bomb one from 007 Goldeneye,
You can also talk about 3rd Party music (video game origin, on Nintendo System, or just appeared in a non DK Konga Nintendo 1st party)
we weren't doing this? or are you expanding the scope of the thread?
Expanding the topic to music, Stages, & Assist Trophies,
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Please post about your favorite enemies & sidekicks you'd like as Assist Trophies...
& 3rd Party items like the N64 bomb one from 007 Goldeneye,
You can also talk about 3rd Party music (video game origin, on Nintendo System, or just appeared in a non DK Konga Nintendo 1st party)
we weren't doing this? or are you expanding the scope of the thread?
Expanding the topic to music, Stages, & Assist Trophies,
Ok, thank you.
I want Mega Man Music!
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I've play super ghost and ghouls on the SNES are they close related?
They're basically the same story-wise and gameplay-wise.
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I've play super ghost and ghouls on the SNES are they close related?
They're basically the same story-wise and gameplay-wise.
wouldn't that basically make them the same game? ;D
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NO!!!
The graphics, level design, and enemies are different.
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NO!!!
The graphics, level design, and enemies are different.
So, then it's a remake?
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I merged Sonic & Snake in the poll, they had the same amount of voters each, so it was easy...
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I merged Sonic & Snake in the poll, they had the same amount of voters each, so it was easy...
but what if i only wanted Sonic? :)
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I merged Sonic & Snake in the poll, they had the same amount of voters each, so it was easy...
but what if i only wanted Sonic? :)
Then (I think) you can change your vote to "Sonic, not Snake"
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I merged Sonic & Snake in the poll, they had the same amount of voters each, so it was easy...
but what if i only wanted Sonic? :)
Then (I think) you can change your vote to "Sonic, not Snake"
Ok, thank you.
But, i don't think i can change my vote.
Not that i actually want to. I just wanted the option available for those who may want to choose it.
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I want Spyro, Rayman, Crash, Sly, Ratchet/Clank, and Jak/Daxter. The latter 3 would only be possible if the respective companies (Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch) would publish the games themselves instead of Sony, as they are honestly all very good games, and the characters would fit well into Smash Bros.
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as they are honestly all very good games, and the characters would fit well into Smash Bros.
this is true. I would like the one's you suggested as well. :)
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I added Tetris to the poll, (as a stage, but still)
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I added Tetris to the poll, (as a stage, but still)
That would be awsome. A dynamic stage, that changes every time you play it.
And if there are 4 people, one person can give up fighting to be the stage itself.
*evil laugh*
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I added Tetris to the poll, (as a stage, but still)
That would be awsome. A dynamic stage, that changes every time you play it.
And if there are 4 people, one person can give up fighting to be the stage itself.
*evil laugh*
...Or a Tetris AT that allows control over Falling Tetris Blocks to attack characters...
(evil laugh stops in amazment)
A tetris Stage would be great, but it should have moving jump/fall-through platforms as well, with the entire Tetris Stage Falling constanly & gradually, and Disappearing lines as well, and getting crushed is an instant spike sideways, or downward...
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i don't recall stopping my evil laugh. Then again, i would of still be "evil laughing" for over a week now :laugh:... so i guess it's fine...
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I merged Sonic & Snake in the poll, they had the same amount of voters each, so it was easy...
That makes no sense at all to do that.
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I added Frogger to the poll, should I reset the count?
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I added Frogger to the poll, should I reset the count?
I don't know....
i guess it would depend on if people intend on voting in the restarted poll.
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Let's discuss Crash Bandicoot Joining the Fray, He was Mario & Sonic's only rival in the days of N64 Dreamcast, & Playstation,
Wumpa Fruit Bazooka
Slide
Body Slam
Tornado Spin
Final Smash? AkuAku? Titan HiJack?
Great International Character: USA, Europe, Canada, all three regions have owned him at some point, I wish I could create a Crash Game, I even made a "Queen Scorpider" character
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Let's discuss Crash Bandicoot Joining the Fray, He was Mario & Sonic's only rival in the days of N64 Dreamcast, & Playstation,
Wumpa Fruit Bazooka
Slide
Body Slam
Tornado Spin
Final Smash? AkuAku? Titan HiJack?
Great International Character: USA, Europe, Canada, all three regions have owned him at some point, I wish I could create a Crash Game, I even made a "Queen Scorpider" character
Since when are the USA and Canada different regions?
Speaking of regions, I think Italy should be in SSB4.
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Let's discuss Crash Bandicoot Joining the Fray, He was Mario & Sonic's only rival in the days of N64 Dreamcast, & Playstation,
Wumpa Fruit Bazooka
Slide
Body Slam
Tornado Spin
Final Smash? AkuAku? Titan HiJack?
Great International Character: USA, Europe, Canada, all three regions have owned him at some point, I wish I could create a Crash Game, I even made a "Queen Scorpider" character
Sounds good. I would like to see Crash Bandicoot in Brawl.
Speaking of regions, I think Italy should be in SSB4.
:eekdance: :eekdance: :eekdance: :eekdance: and chibi Hetalia!
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Scratch that, all the Axis and Allies in SSB4.
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Loto/Erdrick from Dragon Quest.
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Scratch that, all the Axis and Allies in SSB4.
might need to be in a game, first.
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Scratch that, all the Axis and Allies in SSB4.
might need to be in a game, first.
Oh, really now? (http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/Gakuen_Hetalia_Portable_(PSP))
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Scratch that, all the Axis and Allies in SSB4.
might need to be in a game, first.
Oh, really now? (http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/Gakuen_Hetalia_Portable_(PSP))
might need to be in a game on a Nintendo console, first.
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Oh who cares if they're on a Nintendo console or not?
The point is, Hetalia - Axis Powers had a game and are valid.
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actully command and conquer red alert 1 was on the n64 and was about axis vs. allies
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Wrong Axis and Allies.
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i know. i know. just stating
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Oh who cares if they're on a Nintendo console or not?
The point is, Hetalia - Axis Powers had a game and are valid.
You may want to double check that :D.
What 3rd party Character qualifies as a Smasher or AT?
Here are the rules Sakurai, the creator of Smash Bros. laid down...
1. Character must have first appeared in a video game, (Not an Anime, TV, Movie or Cartoon)
2. Character must have appeared in at least one (or more) game on a Nintendo System,
3. Character must have the ability to fight, in order to be playable, no nonsense characters such as "Tetris Block"
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what about gold/ethan?
not 3rd party but still
and change pokemon trainer to red for heaven's sake
what about duke nukem?
or soap from call of duty modern warfare reflex edition? (in his cod:mw3 form once revealed)
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"yes" to gold/ethan.
"no" to changing pokemon trainer to red, as that might require removing pikachu as a standalone character
"no" to duke nukem, as it would might link to linking or relating to "games not appropriate for all ages".
i don't know to soap.
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thanks for the feedback tacopill ;) and ;D
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Oh who cares if they're on a Nintendo console or not?
The point is, Hetalia - Axis Powers had a game and are valid.
You may want to double check that :D.
What 3rd party Character qualifies as a Smasher or AT?
Here are the rules Sakurai, the creator of Smash Bros. laid down...
1. Character must have first appeared in a video game, (Not an Anime, TV, Movie or Cartoon)
2. Character must have appeared in at least one (or more) game on a Nintendo System,
3. Character must have the ability to fight, in order to be playable, no nonsense characters such as "Tetris Block"
Source for this.
""no" to duke nukem, as it would might link to linking or relating to "games not appropriate for all ages".
Solid Snake was in Brawl.
Metal Gear Solid series usually rated M.
Argument neutralized.
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thanks for the feedback tacopill ;) and ;D
you are welcome.
Oh who cares if they're on a Nintendo console or not?
The point is, Hetalia - Axis Powers had a game and are valid.
You may want to double check that :D.
What 3rd party Character qualifies as a Smasher or AT?
Here are the rules Sakurai, the creator of Smash Bros. laid down...
1. Character must have first appeared in a video game, (Not an Anime, TV, Movie or Cartoon)
2. Character must have appeared in at least one (or more) game on a Nintendo System,
3. Character must have the ability to fight, in order to be playable, no nonsense characters such as "Tetris Block"
Source for this.
Don't know, and really doesn't matter to me ;D. It is the rules the topic initiator started off with, so that's what i think we should be going by.
""no" to duke nukem, as it would might link to linking or relating to "games not appropriate for all ages".
Solid Snake was in Brawl.
Metal Gear Solid series usually rated M.
Argument neutralized.
Snake is an exception due to Hideo Kojima's and Masahiro Sakurai's friendship. It is not necessarily a precedent that will allow the flood gates open and more mature-game characters in.
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But Italy, Japan, Germany, England, America, Russia, and China have to be in SSB4.
England can kill you with his majestic eyebrows.
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/037/9/9/hetalia_england_by_blackroseai-d38ymf4.jpg)
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No. Just, no.
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if Nintendo takes player suggestions (like they did for Melee or brawl), and this time around they do it world wide AND allow for characters like them, then i recommend you try and see if they accept it.
also: so majestic...... dies
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They took player suggestions for Melee and Brawl?
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They took player suggestions for Melee and Brawl?
Indeed (http://www.ssbwiki.com/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl#Inclusion_of_characters)
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See, that's why I'm tsundere with Japan.
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See, that's why I'm tsundere with Japan.
works for me. But i am not sure how your personal relations with the character affect the recommendation. ;)
unless, becuase you like him is the reason you recommended him. ;D.
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i still think duke nukem deserves a better game than forever *shudders*
plus soap mctavish is in two M games maybe 3 anyways but *shrugs*
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Evangelion Unit-01
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Crash would make a decent fighter, if they redesign him to look a bit like his appearance in earlier games for GBA GCN and Playstation.
Except more fur texture and a fuzzy, messy, mohawk
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Crash would make a decent fighter, if they redesign him to look a bit like his appearance in earlier games for GBA GCN and Playstation.
Except more fur texture and a fuzzy, messy, mohawk
agreed.
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Better idea.
Rei Ayanami, Shinji Ikari, and Asuka Langley Soryu.
Final Smasn would cause all plsyers to explode into LCL like in End of Evangelion.
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If Mario Kart got permission to use pac-Man in their Arcade games, he surely could be in the next SSB game. He could even take on the form from Mario Kart. Blinky also appeared in these games so he could also be a playable character. Ms. Pac-Man and Mametchi are also playable characters from the arcade games so they could appear too. Whether they are wanted or not, that is a different matter.
Crash, Spyro and Rayman seem obvious candidates if Nintendo can get permission for them to be in a game. As are Banjo and Conker.
Then of course there is Megaman and Bomberman.
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I think Mickey Mouse has a chance of appearing in SSB4. Nintendo published the Japanese version of Epic Mickey apparently.
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I think Mickey Mouse has a chance of appearing in SSB4. Nintendo published the Japanese version of Epic Mickey apparently.
I don't think Mickey has a chance, it has to be a videogame that's not based on a movie or cartoon, as Sakurai stated on the Brawl homepage: the fighter/character must have origininated in a Videogame.
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I think Mickey Mouse has a chance of appearing in SSB4. Nintendo published the Japanese version of Epic Mickey apparently.
I don't think Mickey has a chance, it has to be a videogame that's not based on a movie or cartoon, as Sakurai stated on the Brawl homepage: the fighter/character must have origininated in a Videogame.
Oh, I completely forgot about that, sorry. It's a shame though.
For some reason, I'd like to see this little guy called Yacopu (although I know he has little to no chance of getting in), he originated on the Game Boy in a game called Trip World, developed and published by the company Sunsoft.
(http://www.blamethecontrolpad.com/tripworld/others/7-6.11.jpg)
More realistically, we might expect to see Quote from Cave Story, due to the upcoming 3DS remake, perhaps. I think he'd make an interesting character.
(http://mmii.info/icons/superpickleman/games_caveStory-quote.gif)
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I don't think Mickey has a chance, it has to be a videogame that's not based on a movie or cartoon, as Sakurai stated on the Brawl homepage: the fighter/character must have origininated in a Videogame.
This does exclude promotional materials though, so if there was a sneek preveiw of the animated series just before a games release date, and they made more games, then the character would qualify if it was on at least one Nintendo system.
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i would like sonic to return (with tails but i think we only get one guest per franchise) with a stage from one of the adventure games
i would love to see sora (as long as they didnt do any thing disney as i dont think it would work in smash) complete with the boss battle theme the encounter (although i dont we'd get him)
and professor layton would be awsome (even if it's out of place for a gentleman)
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I think it would be fun to see Lucas's friend Claus