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NIWA Community => Nintendo Gaming => Pokémon => Topic started by: pikachu8090 on March 12, 2011, 09:07:34 PM
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Post your Opinions about how you thought the latest pokemon games were
To me It was the best pokemon game i played since Emerald (first one i played) some of the pokemon looked ugly but i liked how they had animations
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Very meh, Took me three days to get around to beating the first gym. All the Pokémon I want to use I can't get tell Route 4 at the earliest.
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Very meh, Took me three days to get around to beating the first gym. All the Pokémon I want to use I can't get tell Route 4 at the earliest.
NO IT'S GOOD NOT MEH
anyway, I'm only at Route 3 right now, considering I just got it last night, but it's definitely the best in the series, just barely topping Crystal and FireRed as my favorite.
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I'm loving it. I may not be a fan of the new guys, but i love seeing them and having to try to figure out what they are in the first battle i run into them as.
It's like playing the original Red all over again.
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I loved it. I haven't got a chance to get the English versions, but I loved the Japanese version. even if I can't understand it
The new designs were really nice this generation, and the music was spectacular. (Route 4 in the Summer, anyone?)
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I have a Japanese version of Black, and an English copy of White. I think that both games are fantastic. The graphics are amazing, the new Pokémon are interesting, and the plot is very enthralling.
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best paired version since gen 3
by the way I think they will remake frirered leafgreen AND ruby saphire emerald
storyline was not as good as gen 4's but still cool
graphics are revlotionary.
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That reminds me, i have a proposed list of New Names. :)
No!
We gotta go back to Kanto and see BROCK.
Indeed.
5th gen:
Black
White
MagmaRuby
AquaSaphire
ForestEmerald
SuperFireyRed
MegaLeafyGreen
UltraWateryBlue
SparkyYellow
Colosseum 3DS
X3DS
Box R/S
and Pokemon Wii (for good measure ;D)
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my gen 5 list:
black
white
grey
firered deluxe
leafgreen deluxe
magmaruby
aguasaphhire
box B/W
a remake of xd and collusuem
stadium B/W
and...
the NEW pokemon all-region challenge fetureing every gym,battle frontier/battle subway, and finally evry
elite 4/champian
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the NEW pokemon all-region challenge fetureing every gym,battle frontier/battle subway, and finally evry
elite 4/champian
I would like this.
Maybe even a super-elite four, who does for the whole world what the regional elite fours do for their respective regions.
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my gen 5 list:
black
white
grey
firered deluxe
leafgreen deluxe
magmaruby
aguasaphhire
box B/W
a remake of xd and collusuem
stadium B/W
and...
the NEW pokemon all-region challenge fetureing every gym,battle frontier/battle subway, and finally evry
elite 4/champian
And your horrible spelling!
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Black
White
Grey
MagmaRuby
AquaSapphire
OzoneEmerald
InfernoRed
SwampGreen
RainbowBlue
StaticYellow
XD100
Colosseum+
Stadium Best Wishes!
Pokémon Wii
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Black
White
Grey
MagmaRuby
AquaSapphire
ThunderYellow
Pokemon Stadium 3DS (Downloadable application to store Pokemon from B/W, transfer from console data to Stadium)
Pokemon Wii
That's all I need.
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Black
White
MagmaRuby
AquaSapphire
ThunderYellow: Electric Pikachu version (Zapdos on cover w/Pikachu and Ash)SkyBlue (w/Articuno on box with Zapdos & Moltres Behind, & Blastoise next to Charmeleon & Ivysuar moving picture card)
And then...
Grey version for 3DS
Pokemon Stadium 3DS (Downloadable application to store Pokemon from B/W, transfer from console data to Stadium)
Exelent idea! I want it! Downloadable 3D stadium, or Mt. Battle with 5 modes, Single, Double, Triple, Rotation, & Multi, using Miis as Trainers, with thick lines removed from facial features, & custom Mii clothes, and a Pokemon Storage System with no dependence on the Wii, and a non 3D storage system & "Touchscreen MiniGame Corner" for DSi users.
Pokemon XD or Colosseum Remake for 3DS, compatibe with DS download play,
and a new Shadow Pokemon game with improved Mt. Battle mode for Wii.
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Excuse my mini-modding, but you guys are sort of getting off topic.
Anyway, I felt BW to be a bit slow-paced before Gym 1. There's also way too much involvement of Team Plasma imo. But besides that, it's perfect.
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I like long, slow paced games... as long as there's challenging puzzles and tasks, in additon to tough opponents, and continuous aftertasks, it'll be a great game as long as the controls aren't too complicated for it's genre...
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I like long, slow paced games... as long as there's challenging puzzles and tasks, in additon to tough opponents, and continuous aftertasks, it'll be a great game as long as the controls aren't too complicated for it's genre...
I will agree to this... ;D
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I'm on my second playthrough of the game, and here are my thoughts of the matter:
1. The game is painfully a plot course of "A to B". In the other regions, there was a bit of leeway in many areas where you could take multiple paths, and this allowed you to catch lots of Pokemon. Here, not so much.
2. For once, it's a Pokemon game that is actually enjoyable by adults that isn't too cringe-worthy. I had a great laugh at the Clerk Trisha who appears at the Ferris Wheel and wants you to battle her and then ride with her on the Ferris Wheel. Some of her comments are very... risque?
3. Team Plasma is one of the better teams in the franchise. Sure, they suffer from a lot of the old cliches like team members have weak Pokemon, but considering their stated goal is liberation of Pokemon, that is somewhat excusable. Not to mention they are the only team that has the highest success rate in their stated goals (N is arguably the champion for a short while). They are also the most sympathetic of villains, as their "vileness" isn't necessarily Black or White...
4. The lack of certain staples makes the games seem incredibly cheesy. Your options for rematchings are slim, and rebattling Gym Leaders is non-existent
5. The variety of Pokemon this generation is the same as with previous generations. You have some great Pokemon, a lot of meh ones, and some godawful ones. Still, this generation offers a lot of possibilities if you enjoy certain types of Pokemon (Dark, Ghost, Bug, and Dragon types are in abundance).
Frankly, the best way to improve these games is to restore the ability to rebattle Gym Leaders, and allow a process to age yourself 5-10 years and get married to a notable NPC.
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I'm on my second playthrough of the game, and here are my thoughts of the matter:
1. The game is painfully a plot course of "A to B". In the other regions, there was a bit of leeway in many areas where you could take multiple paths, and this allowed you to catch lots of Pokemon. Here, not so much.
2. For once, it's a Pokemon game that is actually enjoyable by adults that isn't too cringe-worthy. I had a great laugh at the Clerk Trisha who appears at the Ferris Wheel and wants you to battle her and then ride with her on the Ferris Wheel. Some of her comments are very... risque?
3. Team Plasma is one of the better teams in the franchise. Sure, they suffer from a lot of the old cliches like team members have weak Pokemon, but considering their stated goal is liberation of Pokemon, that is somewhat excusable. Not to mention they are the only team that has the highest success rate in their stated goals (N is arguably the champion for a short while). They are also the most sympathetic of villains, as their "vileness" isn't necessarily Black or White...
4. The lack of certain staples makes the games seem incredibly cheesy. Your options for rematchings are slim, and rebattling Gym Leaders is non-existent
5. The variety of Pokemon this generation is the same as with previous generations. You have some great Pokemon, a lot of meh ones, and some godawful ones. Still, this generation offers a lot of possibilities if you enjoy certain types of Pokemon (Dark, Ghost, Bug, and Dragon types are in abundance).
Frankly, the best way to improve these games is to restore the ability to rebattle Gym Leaders, and allow a process to age yourself 5-10 years and get married to a notable NPC.
remember that ghetis (english name) really wanted people to have no pokemon so couldn'tfight back to his taking over of the world
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Frankly, the best way to improve these games is to restore the ability to rebattle Gym Leaders, and allow a process to age yourself 5-10 years and get married to a notable NPC.
The paired version never lets you rebattle Gym Leaders, I don't think.
Also, NO.
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Frankly, the best way to improve these games is to restore the ability to rebattle Gym Leaders, and allow a process to age yourself 5-10 years and get married to a notable NPC.
The paired version never lets you rebattle Gym Leaders, I don't think.
"restore" doesn't have to mean paired-to-paired, or first-pair to first-pair. It could be simply version-to-version.
Also, HeartGold/Soulsilver (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rematch#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver) allows you to rebattle all 16 gym leaders.
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Very meh, Took me three days to get around to beating the first gym. All the Pokémon I want to use I can't get tell Route 4 at the earliest.
Only three days?! It took me that long to beat the game.
best paired version since gen 3
by the way I think they will remake frirered leafgreen AND ruby saphire emerald
storyline was not as good as gen 4's but still cool
graphics are revlotionary.
I have to agree with you for the first part.
The gym leaders were at least invovled in the story than most other games. thaats what make it better.
The animations of some gen 4 pokemon = down look really cool (celebi giratina)
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Frankly, the best way to improve these games is to restore the ability to rebattle Gym Leaders, and allow a process to age yourself 5-10 years and get married to a notable NPC.
The paired version never lets you rebattle Gym Leaders, I don't think.
"restore" doesn't have to mean paired-to-paired, or first-pair to first-pair. It could be simply version-to-version.
Also, HeartGold/Soulsilver (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rematch#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver) allows you to rebattle all 16 gym leaders.
The difference with HGSS though is that they are remakes. iirc, the rematch system (not counting the E4) was introduced in GSC, so they were basically 'improving' on it.
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Frankly, the best way to improve these games is to restore the ability to rebattle Gym Leaders, and allow a process to age yourself 5-10 years and get married to a notable NPC.
The paired version never lets you rebattle Gym Leaders, I don't think.
"restore" doesn't have to mean paired-to-paired, or first-pair to first-pair. It could be simply version-to-version.
Also, HeartGold/Soulsilver (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rematch#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver) allows you to rebattle all 16 gym leaders.
The difference with HGSS though is that they are remakes. iirc, the rematch system (not counting the E4) was introduced in GSC, so they were basically 'improving' on it.
Yea. The idea of re-battling was introduced in G/S.
And, oddly, i miss it in B/W.
My opinion still stands though. They've had some form of it in almost every version from Gen II onward. For them to go and remove it in Gen V.... seems odd.
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I love them so far, the story actually drives the game, some of the small things like the pokemon constantly moving, some of the different camera angles they show while crossing the bridges, and the music was really good, team plasma easily has one of the best villain battle themes in the franchise, while some of the pokemon designs I didn't like (gears, really ???) others are just awsome (Braviary) overall one of the best in the series, though if there is a third version, I'm sure it will have some sort of rematching system
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Huh? There's rebattling in B/W. It's limited (like it was in G/S/C), but it's there. The stadiums in Nimbasa City, along with the Ferris Wheel trainer. There's others too, but those are the ones that stick out in my mind the most.
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Huh? There's rebattling in B/W. It's limited (like it was in G/S/C), but it's there. The stadiums in Nimbasa City, along with the Ferris Wheel trainer. There's others too, but those are the ones that stick out in my mind the most.
then it might be a limited instance re-battling, where as each trainer can be re-battled infinite times, but they don't get any better over time).
This is different from progressive re-battling, which you versus someone 2 or 3 more times, and they have gotten better each time.
(note: these are my terms for them, not official)
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I don't like how you have to beat the gyms to go on. Overall these games feel like a HUGE step back.
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Well, I got the game last Friday. Rushed through the gyms and had finished them by the end of Saturday. I now have over 30 hours gameplay.
I like the games but hate two Pokemon from Gen V. Trubbish and Garbador.
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Well, I got the game last Friday. Rushed through the gyms and had finished them by the end of Saturday. I now have over 30 hours gameplay.
I like the games but hate two Pokemon from Gen V. Trubbish and Garbador.
What the hell is wrong with you, those are the coolest.
You're just a hater.
MY YABUKURON WILL CRUSH YOU.
I don't like how you have to beat the gyms to go on. Overall these games feel like a HUGE step back.
That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard! Of course you have to bloody beat the gyms! It's the whole point of the entire freaking series!
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Well, I got the game last Friday. Rushed through the gyms and had finished them by the end of Saturday. I now have over 30 hours gameplay.
I like the games but hate two Pokemon from Gen V. Trubbish and Garbador.
What the hell is wrong with you, those are the coolest.
You're just a hater.
MY YABUKURON WILL CRUSH YOU.
I don't like how you have to beat the gyms to go on. Overall these games feel like a HUGE step back.
That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard! Of course you have to bloody beat the gyms! It's the whole point of the entire freaking series!
What I ment is you can't leave the city until you beat the gym, I can't get into the forest to get a fighting type to help me beat the second gym.
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Well, I got the game last Friday. Rushed through the gyms and had finished them by the end of Saturday. I now have over 30 hours gameplay.
I like the games but hate two Pokemon from Gen V. Trubbish and Garbador.
What the hell is wrong with you, those are the coolest.
You're just a hater.
MY YABUKURON WILL CRUSH YOU.
I don't like how you have to beat the gyms to go on. Overall these games feel like a HUGE step back.
That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard! Of course you have to bloody beat the gyms! It's the whole point of the entire freaking series!
What I ment is you can't leave the city until you beat the gym, I can't get into the forest to get a fighting type to help me beat the second gym.
You don't have to go into the forest. You can find a Throh/Sawk in the area outside the forest, which you can access.
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Frankly, you don't even need to worry so much about type advantage. Just do a bit of level grinding on some neutral Pokemon (get a Purrloin to Level 20, for example), and you can easily take down the second gym. Right now my team on Pokemon Black has (or will have in the near future):
Waruvial (Dark/Ground), Sigilyph (Psychic/Flying), Lampent (Ghost/Fire), Frillish (Ghost/Water), Larvesta (Bug/Fire), and Deino (Dark/Dragon). Is it a rounded team? Goodness no, but with enough elbow grease and level grinding and you can easily sweep the Elite Four with it.
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Frankly, you don't even need to worry so much about type advantage. Just do a bit of level grinding on some neutral Pokemon (get a Purrloin to Level 20, for example), and you can easily take down the second gym. Right now my team on Pokemon Black has (or will have in the near future):
Waruvial (Dark/Ground), Sigilyph (Psychic/Flying), Lampent (Ghost/Fire), Frillish (Ghost/Water), Larvesta (Bug/Fire), and Deino (Dark/Dragon). Is it a rounded team? Goodness no, but with enough elbow grease and level grinding and you can easily sweep the Elite Four with it.
you must like ghost psychic dark types :laugh:
Anyways I still have to go through the undersea ruins but thats about it
I had almost gotten a 21 win streak in single but lost due to no water type :(
I really liked the relocator though it on the DS that had DPPT HGSS on it.
I really liked rotom's animations on this. Some other were cool too but most were the same.
What I ment is you can't leave the city until you beat the gym, I can't get into the forest to get a fighting type to help me beat the second gym.
you can get some outside the forest thats what i did
That is true i didnt really like that but it was okay
The landscape looks like real nature route would (routes 6, 8 10 14 the most) the older games were nothing like this
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I actually got to an area after the city/town of a badge to train for said badge....
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Yea. In a local league, I'm a Dark + Ghost type Gym Leader, and my favorite type is Dark. Honestly though, you could take on Lenora with a Magikarp or a Luvdisc if you cared enough.
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Yea. In a local league, I'm a Dark + Ghost type Gym Leader, and my favorite type is Dark. Honestly though, you could take on Lenora with a Magikarp or a Luvdisc if you cared enough.
Magikarp power, Activate! :D
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The way I see it, the gameplay and graphics have improved since Gen I while the Pokemon have declined since Gen I.
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The way I see it, the gameplay and graphics have improved since Gen I while the Pokemon have declined since Gen I.
*nostalgia fanboy alert*
The first Gen of Pokémon (why does everyone forget the "é"?) was easily the worst designed.
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The way I see it, the gameplay and graphics have improved since Gen I while the Pokemon have declined since Gen I.
*nostalgia fanboy alert*
The first Gen of Pokémon (why does everyone forget the "é"?) was easily the worst designed.
Too much effort to go alt whatever the numbers are.
And how come you say that the older Pokemon were poorly designed? How about the rubbish bag, teddy bear with a runny nose? Are you saying that they are good? Because they are not.
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The way I see it, the gameplay and graphics have improved since Gen I while the Pokemon have declined since Gen I.
*nostalgia fanboy alert*
The first Gen of Pokémon (why does everyone forget the "é"?) was easily the worst designed.
Too much effort to go alt whatever the numbers are.
And how come you say that the older Pokemon were poorly designed? How about the rubbish bag, teddy bear with a runny nose? Are you saying that they are good? Because they are not.
They're bloody better than "The rock" or "The bat" or "The Clay" or the "Dinosaur with a Bulb on it's back" or the "Lizard with a flame on the tail" or the "Turtle with a squirrel tail".
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The way I see it, the gameplay and graphics have improved since Gen I while the Pokemon have declined since Gen I.
*nostalgia fanboy alert*
The first Gen of Pokémon (why does everyone forget the "é"?) was easily the worst designed.
Too much effort to go alt whatever the numbers are.
And how come you say that the older Pokemon were poorly designed? How about the rubbish bag, teddy bear with a runny nose? Are you saying that they are good? Because they are not.
They're bloody better than "The rock" or "The bat" or "The Clay" or the "Dinosaur with a Bulb on it's back" or the "Lizard with a flame on the tail" or the "Turtle with a squirrel tail".
I stand by my previous opinion, that each generation's/region's Pokémon have it's own quirks and charms.
The first generation maybe boring in comparison to some of gen III's or IV's guys, but they did set the standard for all generations following it.
I'm not going to say it was the best ever, nor am i going to say it was the worse ever. I simply ask for people to observe, that if it wasn't for the first gen, then there would probably be no second, third, fourth or fifth. And that merit's it some respect.
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The designs for Pokemon in any generation are hit and miss. While I'm not a big fan of the garbage bag Pokemon, I think they're a lot better than Gulpin and Swalot. I also appreciate the idea of garbage Pokemon. I sorta wish there was Steel/Poison toxic waste barrel Pokemon.
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My favourite design of a Pokemon this generation is Accelgor though I guess. The ninja design is awesome! Better than a lot of Pokemon that generation, even though his evolution method is stupid.
Also, I like Gulpin and Swalot. Great looking Pokemon.
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I've got White and it is easily one of my favorite Pokemon games. Right up there with Soulsilver, for sure. The graphics are amazing, while some of the names and designs of Pokemon aren't that great. Really, some of my least favorite designs and some of my favorite are in this generation. But the routes, bridges, and battles look amazing.
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I've got White and it is easily one of my favorite Pokemon games. Right up there with Soulsilver, for sure. The graphics are amazing, while some of the names and designs of Pokemon aren't that great. Really, some of my least favorite designs and some of my favorite are in this generation. But the routes, bridges, and battles look amazing.
i will agree to this!
Also, i do like N as a villain. He was honestly trying to change the world for what he thought was right.
I can totally relate.
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I'd prefer if N was a girl.
SHUT UP
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N was just brought up to feel that way. Ghetis was the evil one. N was just fighting for what he believed in (in ways that were wrong, granted) but he wasn't the real bad guy of the story.
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Having just finished my Pokemon Black game, I will say this about Pokemon Black:
Team Plasma is the best villainous team of all time. N makes for a great anti-hero, and the ending of the game (from N defeating the Champion to you defeating N and Ghetsis) is one of the best climaxes to the game. The music during that time period is incredible, and the way that N says goodbye and then the game flashes to the credits was just plain awesome.
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I do have one problem with the end of the game.
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Every new trainer is at least level 65, where i am still in the mid-50's. I hate level grinding.
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How does a move with 100% accuracy keep missing?
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I do have one problem with the end of the game.
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Every new trainer is at least level 65, where i am still in the mid-50's. I hate level grinding.
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I competely agree. There is some chick with a purugly that I keep avoiding. Also, no pokemon are in white forest. I really have to sync up just for one freaking pokemon to appear?!
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How does a move with 100% accuracy keep missing?
is it specifically 100% or is it "-"?
the reason i ask, is if it is a 100%; it might be a computer error, or a move like "sand-attack" or "double team".
I do have one problem with the end of the game.
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Every new trainer is at least level 65, where i am still in the mid-50's. I hate level grinding.
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I competely agree. There is some chick with a purugly that I keep avoiding. Also, no pokemon are in white forest. I really have to sync up just for one freaking pokemon to appear?!
Indeed. It angers me so......
I have come to a conclusion: This maybe my the last versions that i am playing. 649 is a little much for me to collect; and the restraints of 6-team members and 4-moves-per-member is increasingly restraining, as there are now too many options for me to decide through.
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Imo, the game is pretty good. Amazing graphics, the music was tolerable, and the new Pokemon are all very creative. I hope I'm not shifting the subject or anything lol. ^^;
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I do have one problem with the end of the game.
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Every new trainer is at least level 65, where i am still in the mid-50's. I hate level grinding.
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I competely agree. There is some chick with a purugly that I keep avoiding. Also, no pokemon are in white forest. I really have to sync up just for one freaking pokemon to appear?!
You wouldn't have to sync up if you completed the game fast enough. The faster you complete the game and get to white Forest, the more Pokemon you get.
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Ehhh it's really hard for me to get into pokemon unless it has the camera feature from pokemon snap