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NIWA Discussion / Re: Icaruspedia under Attack!
August 28, 2012, 09:04:02 PM
The default value is 0, so no.  You can change it though if desired.  You can configure it to need time, edits, or both to be autoconfirmed.


One other thing I've noticed is that the spam rarely happens on existing pages.  This suggests a bot doing it, since for different wikis you cannot rely on the same page existing or on being able to create a page immediately after account creation.  This is why most of the spam is on newly created user pages.  This is true for Dragon Quest Wiki where you can anonymously edit any page by filling in a capture confirmation, yet there is never vandalism using this.
NIWA Discussion / Re: Icaruspedia under Attack!
August 28, 2012, 01:34:01 PM
Well, let's not all answer at once NIWA admins.  :(

This thread might be helpful: http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=1061.0

I noticed that for Icaruspedia, you have the ConfirmEdit active for account creation.  This is good, but humans and bots seem to have found a way around this.  Either due to humans actively doing the spamming or programming a bot that can figure out the capture.  Dragon Quest Wiki has the same problems. 

From my point of view here are the options. 

1) Let them spam and just delete it and block their accounts.  This requires more input by admins, but allows you to keep registration open and useful for real users.
2) Change your autoconfirm age to be longer and only allow autoconfirmed users to create pages (and possibly edit).  Spammers rarely want to sign up and come back later.
3) Turn off account creation.  Create a page with an email address that users can email to have an account created for them.  This is drastic, but I've seen it done on other wikis before when they just don't have time to deal with the spam.


This page details how to adjust many of the wiki settings.  Hopefully you have server access, otherwise you won't be able to do anything. 
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
May 01, 2012, 07:37:35 PM

Wiki NameAverage Posts Per WeekPercentageChange
Donkey Kong Wiki130.91.06%+17.40%
Dragon Quest Wiki61.60.50%+60.00%
Fire Emblem Wiki505.24.08%+35.84%
F-Zero Wiki60.40.49%-35.74%
Golden Sun Universe171.31.38%+123.05%
Lylat Wiki12.80.10%+52.38%
Mario Wiki3143.225.38%+12.01%
Metroid Wiki139.51.13%-26.93%
Nintendo Wiki18.20.15%-61.36%
Pikmin Fanon85.90.69%+75.31%
Starfy Wiki300.32.42%-36.70%
Wars Wiki61.40.50%-14.25%
Zelda Wiki765.36.18%+12.86%
Avg NIWA Posts Per Week589.7952381+5.05%

Wiki References / Re: Wiki Spammers
April 09, 2012, 01:21:03 PM
Since joining NIWA, we have had an influx of spammers hit the wiki.  We are using the ConfirmEdit extension to use CAPTCHA on account creation so it would seem that they are human spammers and not bots. 

Do any of the other wikis use a spam blacklist or something of that nature?  I'm curious how big wikis like Mario and Bulbapedia combat spam.
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
April 04, 2012, 12:57:33 PM
I wouldn't worry much about it.  That is probably the least important stat listed for all the wikis.  I really just listed it because it was there and I could.
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
April 03, 2012, 07:24:44 PM

Wiki NameAverage Posts Per WeekPercentageChange
Donkey Kong Wiki111.50.95%-23.68%
Dragon Quest Wiki38.50.33%
Fire Emblem Wiki371.93.15%+54.57%
F-Zero Wiki940.80%
Golden Sun Universe76.80.65%+3.50%
Lylat Wiki8.40.07%+140.00%
Mario Wiki2806.323.80%+8.13%
Metroid Wiki190.91.62%-3.05%
Nintendo Wiki47.10.40%+20.77%
Pikmin Fanon490.42%-2.39%
Starfy Wiki474.44.02%+29.02%
Wars Wiki71.60.61%+38.76%
Zelda Wiki678.15.75%-32.54%
Avg Posts Per Week561.4380952-9.29%
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
April 03, 2012, 04:47:38 PM
NIWA Statistics
Wiki NameArticlesEditsMediaUsersActive UsersAdmins
Donkey Kong Wiki900116642334465145
Fire Emblem Wiki872237386402237157
F-Zero Wiki218943533258168
Golden Sun Universe1421502934014855125
Lylat Wiki1643891410502691611
Metroid Wiki152141021268218131710
Nintendo Wiki5181401061130289
Pikmin Fanon Wiki1647263381804231147
Smash Wiki206810506759831194889
Starfy Wiki72513535157792127
Strategy Wiki2355959801880586600087832
Mario Wiki121211272908364072334848912
Zelda Wiki362930153813834976312117
Dragon Quest Wiki2657297244937287153
2012-04-03 12:40:03.384798

Not sure why Bulbapedia has no media/images.  Maybe because they are using a customized storage system for their files?
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
March 30, 2012, 04:47:09 PM
Oh yeah, I totally understand.  I'm thinking the cron would only run once a day, more than that and the stats probably aren't more meaningful.  So even if it was a slow process, it wouldn't matter much.  Of course, things are still thrown off by the fact that some wikis have 91 days for active users and others 30.  There are probably other config settings that skew the values.
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
March 30, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
Haha, you are so critical.  :)  This was just 10 minutes of work, and I never write Python.  Feel free to make some quick changes and post an updated script.  I didn't work on it longer because I figured out that my hosting doesn't have Python 2.6+, so I kinda quit then. 

I will work on it again when I have some time. 
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
March 30, 2012, 05:16:41 AM

Here is a python script I threw together based on Greenpickle's suggestion above.  It grabs various statistics from each wiki and puts it into a very basic html table.  A couple things...

1) Can one of you with better web hosting put this on a cron?  My hosting only has python 2.4 which does not support the JSON library (2.6+). 

2) I could not find the api.php for the Wars Wiki.  Seems like it should be http://www.warswiki.warscentral.com/api.php.  So that wiki is currently missing. 

The script does not do any sort of error handling at all.  The value for active users it spit out for me (minus Wars wiki) was 1893!
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
March 27, 2012, 05:51:04 PM
Yeah that's what I figured, but looking at the history of the article, it never lists a value different than 30.  Probably undocumented in earlier versions or something. 
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
March 27, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
Looks like it should be controlled by $wgActiveUserDays.  30 is the default.  Not sure why it would be set to 91 for any wiki, weird.
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
March 22, 2012, 02:45:11 PM
That would definitely be a cool stat to see.  As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I am just using Google Reader to pull the info for each of the feeds.  To get the number of editors, we would need to write our own software most likely.  It would need to run every hour or so (maybe a cron) and check each feed and compile the information.
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
March 13, 2012, 11:23:30 PM
Some of the SEIWA wikis posted low numbers this time as well.  That is what happens on small wikis when the few dedicated editors take a break.

In the future I'm going to add a "average posts per wiki" metric.  This will be the total number of posts for all of NIWA, divided by the number of wikis in NIWA.  This will be a good measure over time of how well NIWA as a whole is doing.
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
March 13, 2012, 07:16:48 PM

Wiki NameAverage Posts Per WeekPercentageChange
Donkey Kong146.11.31%+323.48%
Fire Emblem240.62.16%-36.03%
Golden Sun74.20.67%+71.76%
Lylat Wiki3.50.03%-84.38%
Mario 2595.423.30%-13.56%
Pikmin Fanon50.20.45%-15.91%
Smash Wiki1136.810.20%-2.89%
Starfy 367.73.30%+206.67%
Strategy Wiki5354.80%-17.64%
Wiki References / Re: Best MediaWiki Hosts
February 16, 2012, 03:06:01 PM
Hostgator blows.  I checked today and we are sharing with 93 other sites.  We have had lots of random spikes in performance because of this.  I'm going to contact them to complain, but overall it just sucks.
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
January 28, 2012, 01:10:23 AM

Wiki NameAverage Posts Per WeekPercentageChange
Donkey Kong34.50.36%-43.54%
Fire Emblem376.13.22%+70.18%
Golden Sun43.20.45%-43.38%
Lylat Wiki22.40.23%-14.18%
Mario 3002.531.29%-5.76%
Pikmin Fanon59.70.62%-41.70%
Smash Wiki1170.612.20%+18.96%
Starfy 119.91.25%-7.77%
Strategy Wiki649.66.77%+3.69%

Editing was up this month overall.
NIWA Discussion / Re: NIWA Stats
December 28, 2011, 03:07:07 PM
Wiki NameAverage Posts Per WeekPercentageChange
Donkey Kong61.10.64%+239.44%
Fire Emblem2211.89%+63.34%
Golden Sun76.30.80%-8.40%
Lylat Wiki26.10.27%+45.00%
Pikmin Fanon102.41.07%+34.56%
Smash Wiki98410.26%+13.92%
Strategy Wiki626.56.53%+14.55%
NIWA Discussion / Re: What happened?
December 28, 2011, 03:04:50 PM
Apparently the spambots got let in as well.  I'm sure things will be back to normal shortly.
Vzing, did you read the previous page in this thread?