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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #100 on: January 29, 2011, 09:16:59 PM »
Quote from: RamblinEvilMushroom on January 29, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
In my opinion Fox should be the only Star Fox character. I mean, just look at the series' title.

That's like saying Mario should be the only Mario character in SSB because his series is called "Super Mario".
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #101 on: January 29, 2011, 09:21:05 PM »
Quote from: RamblinEvilMushroom on January 29, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Ness:

Neutral Special: Lifeup- Lowers percent.
[...]
Lucas:

Neutral Special: Lifeup- Same as Ness.
[...]
Kumatora:

Down Special: PK Ground- Makes an earthquake that buries nearby opponents.

All of these are very overpowered.  No moves in the Smash series can restore HP on their own; only with very specific conditions (such as PSI Magnet, and then it has to be absorbing an energy-based projectile attack).
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #102 on: January 29, 2011, 10:07:40 PM »
Quote from: Miles of SmashWiki on January 29, 2011, 09:21:05 PM
Quote from: RamblinEvilMushroom on January 29, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Ness:

Neutral Special: Lifeup- Lowers percent.
[...]
Lucas:

Neutral Special: Lifeup- Same as Ness.
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Kumatora:

Down Special: PK Ground- Makes an earthquake that buries nearby opponents.

All of these are very overpowered.  No moves in the Smash series can restore HP on their own; only with very specific conditions (such as PSI Magnet, and then it has to be absorbing an energy-based projectile attack).

OK, then.

Lifeup- Same as PSI Magnet

But how is PK Ground overpowered? It's supposed to work like Jigglypuff's Sing.

Quote from: BooDestroyer on January 29, 2011, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: RamblinEvilMushroom on January 29, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
In my opinion Fox should be the only Star Fox character. I mean, just look at the series' title.

That's like saying Mario should be the only Mario character in SSB because his series is called "Super Mario".

I meant he was the only "main" character.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #103 on: January 29, 2011, 11:13:20 PM »
I think that Fox should be the only character from the Star Fox series unless they can make more original skillsets. It might just be me, but I find Wolf, Fox and Falco a bit samey.

That said, Falco has appeared in two games in a row now, so he's probably safe, and I'd prefer it if they could just make Falco a bit different to Fox rather than full-out removing him. Sorta like what they did with Luigi.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #104 on: January 29, 2011, 11:41:41 PM »
Quote from: Manga Maniac on January 29, 2011, 11:13:20 PM
I think that Fox should be the only character from the Star Fox series unless they can make more original skillsets. It might just be me, but I find Wolf, Fox and Falco a bit samey.

That said, Falco has appeared in two games in a row now, so he's probably safe, and I'd prefer it if they could just make Falco a bit different to Fox rather than full-out removing him. Sorta like what they did with Luigi.

And you don't think they've already done that?  Playstyle-wise, they're vastly different; Falco's significantly higher-tiered than Fox for a reason -- their metagames have evolved completely differently.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2011, 12:02:14 AM »
I know there are differences between Falco and Fox, such as Falco's Landmaster flying and being less strong, but I still can't help but feel a bit similarities between the characters. Falco is definitely not a clone, but just look at their movesets:

FOX:
Standard Special Move: Blaster
Side Special Move: Fox Illusion
Up Special Move: Fire Fox
Down Special Move: Reflector
Final Smash: Landmaster

FALCO:
Standard Special Move: Blaster
Side Special Move: Falco Phantasm
Up Special Move: Fire Bird
Down Special Move: Reflector
Final Smash: Landmaster

They're different, I'll grant you, but it still feels samey.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2011, 12:28:23 AM »
And have you compared the functionalities of those moves?  The Blasters have incredibly different applications because of Falco's causing flinching and Fox's not; Fox Illusion sends opponents upwards where Falco Phantasm sends them downwards; and their Reflectors, despite both reflecting, are very different in timing and usage as well.

And don't forget regular movesets: Falco's neutral combo, forward smash, up smash, forward air, down air, etc. are all vastly different as well.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2011, 01:02:11 AM »
Quote from: RamblinEvilMushroom on January 29, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
In my opinion Fox should be the only Star Fox character. I mean, just look at the series' title.

Also Lucas and Ness's movepools need to be totally different. Here's my suggestion:

Ness:

Neutral Special: Lifeup- Lowers percent.
Up Special: Paralysis- Shoots through the air like Quick Attack and makes the opponent dizzy. Better as a recovery than PK Thunder 2.
Side Special: PSI Flash- Flash goes to the side and the effectiveness depends on how low or high Ness' percent is.
Down Special: Hypnosis- Puts nearby opponents to sleep.
Final Smash: PK Rockin- Similar to Konga Beat, but with an electric guitar, bass, and drums.

Lucas:

Neutral Special: Lifeup- Same as Ness.
Up Special: Refresh- Shoots a white beam. Used as a tether recovery.
Side Special: PK Flash: Same as Ness.
Down Special: Healing- Basically a Reflector.
Final Smash: PK Love: Lucas is engulfed in a heart that acts similar to Puff Up.

Kumatora:

Down Special: PK Ground- Makes an earthquake that buries nearby opponents.
Up Special: PK Thunder- Similar to Quick Attack.
Side Special: PK Fire- Same as Lucas and Ness.
Neutral Special: PK Freeze- Same.
Final Smash: PK Starstorm- Same.
They would never put a life up move in it or that person could lower their percent all the time.

Also paralysis would be like Mewtwo's disable (i think that what it called)

Also Lucas's PK Love is close to his up smash.

They might never put kumatora on the next one
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2011, 03:16:55 AM »
Quote from: RamblinEvilMushroom on January 29, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
In my opinion Fox should be the only Star Fox character. I mean, just look at the series' title.

Also Lucas and Ness's movepools need to be totally different. Here's my suggestion:

Ness:

Neutral Special: Lifeup- Lowers percent.
Up Special: Paralysis- Shoots through the air like Quick Attack and makes the opponent dizzy. Better as a recovery than PK Thunder 2.
Side Special: PSI Flash- Flash goes to the side and the effectiveness depends on how low or high Ness' percent is.
Down Special: Hypnosis- Puts nearby opponents to sleep.
Final Smash: PK Rockin- Similar to Konga Beat, but with an electric guitar, bass, and drums.

Lucas:

Neutral Special: Lifeup- Same as Ness.
Up Special: Refresh- Shoots a white beam. Used as a tether recovery.
Side Special: PK Flash: Same as Ness.
Down Special: Healing- Basically a Reflector.
Final Smash: PK Love: Lucas is engulfed in a heart that acts similar to Puff Up.

Kumatora:

Down Special: PK Ground- Makes an earthquake that buries nearby opponents.
Up Special: PK Thunder- Similar to Quick Attack.
Side Special: PK Fire- Same as Lucas and Ness.
Neutral Special: PK Freeze- Same.
Final Smash: PK Starstorm- Same.


Mother 1 gets no love?
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2011, 05:00:17 AM »
Quote from: Rahu3 on January 30, 2011, 03:16:55 AM
Mother 1 gets no love?

Apparently not.  :'(
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2011, 05:10:54 AM »
Quote from: Rahu3 on January 30, 2011, 03:16:55 AM
Mother 1 gets no love?

TEDDY FOR NEXT SSB

or Lloyd. But I have a feeling they'd choose Jeff over Lloyd if they went that route. (Either way they'd be badass.)
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #111 on: February 02, 2011, 03:06:08 AM »
Jill from Drill Dozer should get "promoted" to playable character.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #112 on: February 02, 2011, 08:00:55 PM »
Quote from: Rahu3 on February 02, 2011, 03:06:08 AM
Jill from Drill Dozer should get "promoted" to playable character.

That would be cool.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #113 on: February 03, 2011, 07:23:42 PM »
I want either Ana or Kumatora in the next one since they're both amazingly cute and have a much better PSI moveset than Ness or Lucas.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2011, 12:33:29 AM »
Quote from: Manga Maniac on January 30, 2011, 12:02:14 AM
I know there are differences between Falco and Fox, such as Falco's Landmaster flying and being less strong, but I still can't help but feel a bit similarities between the characters. Falco is definitely not a clone, but just look at their movesets:

FOX:
Standard Special Move: Blaster
Side Special Move: Fox Illusion
Up Special Move: Fire Fox
Down Special Move: Reflector
Final Smash: Landmaster

FALCO:
Standard Special Move: Blaster
Side Special Move: Falco Phantasm
Up Special Move: Fire Bird
Down Special Move: Reflector
Final Smash: Landmaster

They're different, I'll grant you, but it still feels samey.

KRYSTAL:
Standard Special Move: Quake
Side Special Move: Ice (or Fire)
Up Special Move: Boost (A psycic version of Fire Fox & Wolf Whoosh)
Down Special Move: Barrier (also prevents flinching & reduces damage by 70% from phisical attacks)
Final Smash: Portal (sucks in characters, and KO's them with special effects, the more damage, the harder it is to escape, and Krystal can attack foes with a jetpack & Blaster while using this attack.
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #115 on: February 08, 2011, 01:50:09 AM »

Quote from: Tattletale1 on February 08, 2011, 12:33:29 AM
KRYSTAL:
Standard Special Move: Quake
Side Special Move: Ice (or Fire)
Up Special Move: Boost (A psycic version of Fire Fox & Wolf Whoosh)
Down Special Move: Barrier (also prevents flinching & reduces damage by 70% from phisical attacks)
Final Smash: Portal (sucks in characters, and KO's them with special effects, the more damage, the harder it is to escape, and Krystal can attack foes with a jetpack & Blaster while using this attack.

Part of the final smash is too like to diddy's and it seems over powered
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #116 on: February 09, 2011, 11:24:57 PM »
Quote from: pikachu8090 on February 08, 2011, 01:50:09 AM

Quote from: Tattletale1 on February 08, 2011, 12:33:29 AM
KRYSTAL:
Standard Special Move: Quake
Side Special Move: Ice (or Fire)
Up Special Move: Boost (A psycic version of Fire Fox & Wolf Whoosh)
Down Special Move: Barrier (also prevents flinching & reduces damage by 70% from phisical attacks)
Final Smash: Portal (sucks in characters, and KO's them with special effects, the more damage, the harder it is to escape, and Krystal can attack foes with a jetpack & Blaster while using this attack.

Part of the final smash is too like to diddy's and it seems over powered


I sort-of agree. But i like the rest of it.  :)
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #117 on: February 14, 2011, 07:26:52 AM »
If more third party characters are added, I would like to see Crash Bandicoot, Spyro and Rayman.

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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #118 on: February 17, 2011, 08:15:53 PM »
Quote from: tacopill on February 09, 2011, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: pikachu8090 on February 08, 2011, 01:50:09 AM

Quote from: Tattletale1 on February 08, 2011, 12:33:29 AM
KRYSTAL:
Standard Special Move: Quake
Side Special Move: Ice (or Fire)
Up Special Move: Boost (A psycic version of Fire Fox & Wolf Whoosh)
Down Special Move: Barrier (also prevents flinching & reduces damage by 70% from phisical attacks)
Final Smash: Portal (sucks in characters, and KO's them with special effects, the more damage, the harder it is to escape, and Krystal can attack foes with a jetpack & Blaster while using this attack.

Part of the final smash is too like to diddy's and it seems over powered


I wasn't even thinking of that;  anyways, I was thinking that she would shoot sideways, and she would be slower & easier to control, shooting would deal very little (or no) damage, but would be able to push characters toward meteors & the vortex to deal damage, all characters over 95% will be KO'd intantly once they get sucked in, (KOs won't count until the vortex goes away
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Re: Characters in Next SSB
« Reply #119 on: February 18, 2011, 12:28:44 AM »
I want Haruhi. :C
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