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So, should any of the names be different?  Anything I've missed?  A lot of things I left out on purpose without giving my reasoning, so bring it up if you don't see why.  I think there are just way too many categories at the moment, a fair number of which probably won't see any use.
 
So, should any of the names be different?  Anything I've missed?  A lot of things I left out on purpose without giving my reasoning, so bring it up if you don't see why.  I think there are just way too many categories at the moment, a fair number of which probably won't see any use.
  
Oh, also, I'm not sure what the point of this FileSourceCitation template is - all I see it used for is sticking the license information in a box with a name or some other details under it, and you're defining the fields on the page.  Why not just use a normal description for these? - [[User:Greenpickle|GP]] <sub>[[User talk:Greenpickle|talk]]</sub> 16:04, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
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<s>Oh, also, I'm not sure what the point of this FileSourceCitation template is - all I see it used for is sticking the license information in a box with a name or some other details under it, and you're defining the fields on the page.  Why not just use a normal description for these?</s>  Oh, I see, for categorisation.  Still seems a bit awkward... - [[User:Greenpickle|GP]] <sub>[[User talk:Greenpickle|talk]]</sub> 16:04, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
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:''Sorry for not responding to this until now. Had a busy couple of weeks, and i wanted to ensure i gave it my full attention when i did look at it.''
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:If you don't mind me asking, what's the logic behind the distinction Type categories and type templates (aisde for the difference in page types)? For example, would marking a file with the "Box Art" template file it under the category "Box Art". Just the same, in order to place something under the "photos" category, would it need a "photos" template?
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:(I think you may of actually have said they will...but i am asking to be sure)
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:Anyway, i have more feedback to give on this, but i need to get to bed. I will type it up and post it when i am next able.
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:{{User:Tacopill/sig}} 23:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC).
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::"If a type template is appropriate, use that; these will all have an associated category.  If not, use a license template (also have associated categories) and a Type category."  So all files with a type template are put into the category associated with that template, with a similar name as the template (most would be plural - ''screenshots'', ''renders'', ''user files'').  But the type categories I listed ''wouldn't'' have a type template - templates are only needed to make the licensing clear, and since photos, for example, don't all have the same license, you'd have to use a licensing template and just have ''<nowiki>[[Category:photos]]</nowiki>''. - [[User:Greenpickle|GP]] <sub>[[User talk:Greenpickle|talk]]</sub> 10:05, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
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:::Ah. ok. Thank you for clearing that up.
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:::Next part of my feedback: I agree with you that the content categories will be needed, but i am don't think characters and locations would be good options; since, i think RAP is trying to restrict the amount of in-universe content there is on the wiki.
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:::{{User:Tacopill/sig}} 02:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC).

Latest revision as of 02:42, 10 April 2011

Okay, so, uh, see this first. What follows is just my thoughts:

I propose we have what I'm calling here 'type templates', 'license templates', 'type categories' and 'content categories'. I think I've covered everything. I think type templates and license templates should each have their own category under category:file templates (and the categories under category:files), but then we need a better name than 'type templates'. Ideas?

If a type template is appropriate, use that; these will all have an associated category. If not, use a license template (also have associated categories) and a Type category. The idea is, some types of content always have the same license, while for others it varies (product photos are owned by the photographer, right?).

user file is an exception: it needs a template to make it clear the file isn't specifically for use in articles, but also needs a separate license template.

Type templates:

  • screenshot: screenshots, obviously
  • render: rendered models - the sort you get without a background
  • official art: full scenes not from in-game, either drawn or computer-generated
  • box art: photo or scan of a game box
  • patent file: files from patents; I'm a bit unsure about (the licensing regarding) this one
  • user file: files not for use in any articles, just for user pages and sigs and the like

License templates:

  • unlicensed: unknown or just not given one by the uploader (should be applied by default if none selected)
  • fair use
  • free: general free license, taking an argument for the license name; if any get used a lot, they could have their own templates, but I don't think it's likely
  • public domain

Type categories:

  • photos: any photographs
  • people files: photos of people; subcategory of photos; not sure about the name...
  • product files: photos of products (not including merchandise or game boxes - so consoles and peripherals, really); subcategory of photos
  • merchandise files: photos of merchandise (not including game boxes); subcategory of product files
  • logos: all game/company/other external logos (ie. not NIWA logos)
  • wiki files: files for use on the wiki but not in articles - NIWA wiki icons/logos, sample media for help pages, skin images, etc.

As well as this, we'll also need content categories for some types of images - for what's actually in the image - characters, series, locations? I'm not as worried about this, though, and given the coverage of this wiki, I'm not sure what the best way to organise these is.

A couple of other things: any templates we reuse should have the same (sentence case) capitalisation as other pages on the wiki, and not be a subpage of Template:License.

So, should any of the names be different? Anything I've missed? A lot of things I left out on purpose without giving my reasoning, so bring it up if you don't see why. I think there are just way too many categories at the moment, a fair number of which probably won't see any use.

Oh, also, I'm not sure what the point of this FileSourceCitation template is - all I see it used for is sticking the license information in a box with a name or some other details under it, and you're defining the fields on the page. Why not just use a normal description for these? Oh, I see, for categorisation. Still seems a bit awkward... - GP talk 16:04, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for not responding to this until now. Had a busy couple of weeks, and i wanted to ensure i gave it my full attention when i did look at it.
If you don't mind me asking, what's the logic behind the distinction Type categories and type templates (aisde for the difference in page types)? For example, would marking a file with the "Box Art" template file it under the category "Box Art". Just the same, in order to place something under the "photos" category, would it need a "photos" template?
(I think you may of actually have said they will...but i am asking to be sure)
Anyway, i have more feedback to give on this, but i need to get to bed. I will type it up and post it when i am next able.
Tacopill (Talk) 23:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC).
"If a type template is appropriate, use that; these will all have an associated category. If not, use a license template (also have associated categories) and a Type category." So all files with a type template are put into the category associated with that template, with a similar name as the template (most would be plural - screenshots, renders, user files). But the type categories I listed wouldn't have a type template - templates are only needed to make the licensing clear, and since photos, for example, don't all have the same license, you'd have to use a licensing template and just have [[Category:photos]]. - GP talk 10:05, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Ah. ok. Thank you for clearing that up.
Next part of my feedback: I agree with you that the content categories will be needed, but i am don't think characters and locations would be good options; since, i think RAP is trying to restrict the amount of in-universe content there is on the wiki.
Tacopill (Talk) 02:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC).