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red vs ash who would win
« on: December 01, 2010, 09:50:07 PM »
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p.s. ash from the cuurent BW anime and generation 4 version of red as his party is stronger then his gen 2's
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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 01:13:01 AM »
which version of ash?







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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 01:30:44 AM »
which version of ash?

For that matter, which version of Red? Gen I, Gen II, manga...
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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 10:39:41 PM »
Red would win either way, because he beacame the Pokemon League Champion before he went to Johto, and Evolved all his starters, in Gen II, and has the highest level Pokemon of all trainers in every Generation he's been in, (Remember, even when he's playable, even a few non-experienced players have at least three Pokemon more Powerful than Green Oak's before they face him the first time.
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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 12:44:17 AM »
Red would win either way, because he beacame the Pokemon League Champion before he went to Johto, and Evolved all his starters, in Gen II, and has the highest level Pokemon of all trainers in every Generation he's been in, (Remember, even when he's playable, even a few non-experienced players have at least three Pokemon more Powerful than Green Oak's before they face him the first time.


Who is green oak?







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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2010, 12:53:16 AM »
Red would win either way, because he beacame the Pokemon League Champion before he went to Johto, and Evolved all his starters, in Gen II, and has the highest level Pokemon of all trainers in every Generation he's been in, (Remember, even when he's playable, even a few non-experienced players have at least three Pokemon more Powerful than Green Oak's before they face him the first time.


Who is green oak?

The rival of Red in the games. Basically, Red inspired Ash the same way Green inspired Gary... sorta.

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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2010, 01:17:58 AM »
Red would win either way, because he beacame the Pokemon League Champion before he went to Johto, and Evolved all his starters, in Gen II, and has the highest level Pokemon of all trainers in every Generation he's been in, (Remember, even when he's playable, even a few non-experienced players have at least three Pokemon more Powerful than Green Oak's before they face him the first time.


Who is green oak?

The rival of Red in the games. Basically, Red inspired Ash the same way Green inspired Gary... sorta.

But i thought he was based on Blue.







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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2010, 01:46:49 AM »
They're the same, just English/Japanese naming.

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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 01:48:40 AM »
They're the same, just English/Japanese naming.

but i am trying to figure out why he/she is using the japanese given name, and attaching the oak family name.







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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2010, 01:56:58 AM »
It's pretty confusing, but the first two were Red and Green. So the first default name for him in Red was "Green", and in Green it was "Red". Afterwards, Blue was released with updated graphics, and his default names included both "Red" and "Green". But Green wasn't released worldwide; instead, only Red and Blue.

So in the worldwide release, in Red his names included "Blue" and in Blue his names included "Red". In Yellow it's "Blue" in both Japanese and English. But in Fire Red "Green" was included again.

In Japan's Pokémon Special, he's still "Green" and "Green" the girl is still "Blue", but everywhere else, he is "Blue" and the girl is "Green".

In all games, though, he's Oak's grandson, so his last name is Oak, or Oukido.

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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2010, 03:07:23 AM »
that's exactly my point.

1) The english name of the game character is "Blue Oak"
2) The japanese name of game chatacter is "?????????" or "Green ?kido"

Therefore, he/she is is mixing the two names, and it is confusing me.








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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2010, 06:56:29 AM »
Ash.  He does not need to adhere to the rules of Pokemon, unlike Red.  His, like, level eight Pikachu shocked an Onix so hard that an immunity turned into a weakness.  (That's not to mention that rat's level is probably in the thousands by now, as the standard level cap clearly doesn't apply to him either.)  As half the Pokemon movies have taught us, if it's for the better of the plot, Ash will always emerge victorious.  He could beat friggin' Arceus with a baby Rattata, given enough determination and one-eye-closed injured facial expressions.

Of course, Red is the better trainer by miles, but that doesn't make a bit of difference.

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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2010, 08:21:11 AM »
He could beat friggin' Arceus with a baby Rattata, given enough determination and one-eye-closed injured facial expressions.
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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2010, 04:54:19 PM »
He could beat friggin' Arceus with a baby Rattata, given enough determination and one-eye-closed injured facial expressions.
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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 06:22:52 AM »
that's exactly my point.

1) The english name of the game character is "Blue Oak"
2) The japanese name of game chatacter is "?????????" or "Green ?kido"

Therefore, he/she is is mixing the two names, and it is confusing me.


yeah, i hate how with Adventures all of a sudden everyone insists on using Japanese names. well i mean, using Japanese names is fine and dandy, but everyone always mixes the names! if you're going to use Japanese names, go all the way plz. "Green Ookido used his Lizardon", fine, "Green Oak used his Charizard", wtf? /pet peeve

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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2010, 04:13:39 AM »
that's exactly my point.

1) The english name of the game character is "Blue Oak"
2) The japanese name of game chatacter is "?????????" or "Green ?kido"

Therefore, he/she is is mixing the two names, and it is confusing me.


yeah, i hate how with Adventures all of a sudden everyone insists on using Japanese names. well i mean, using Japanese names is fine and dandy, but everyone always mixes the names! if you're going to use Japanese names, go all the way plz. "Green Ookido used his Lizardon", fine, "Green Oak used his Charizard", wtf? /pet peeve

Wait, this is being done in Manga? so the mixup is official Cannon?

that just makes things worse!







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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2011, 05:10:54 PM »
Is this even a question? Red hands down. Red has Lapras. Ash has a Pikaderp.

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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2011, 08:33:52 PM »
Is this even a question? Red hands down. Red has Lapras. Ash has a Pikaderp.

YOU DARE SLAM PIKACHU? YOU MUST DIE!!! *lightning* *lightning*
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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2011, 10:44:58 PM »
Is this even a question? Red hands down. Red has Lapras. Ash has a Pikaderp.

YOU DARE SLAM PIKACHU? YOU MUST DIE!!! *lightning* *lightning*

What's a Pikaderp?







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Re: red vs ash who would win
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2011, 11:19:22 PM »
Is this even a question? Red hands down. Red has Lapras. Ash has a Pikaderp.

YOU DARE SLAM PIKACHU? YOU MUST DIE!!! *lightning* *lightning*

What's a Pikaderp?
Ash's Pikachu.