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I support affiliation with them

(not sure if recommendation is for affiliation or membership)
The Lounge / Discord App
March 02, 2018, 04:24:32 AM
If you are on discord and want to join our conversations, please head to one of the following invite links:

Arms Institute - https://discord.gg/THjPGJA
Bulbagarden / Bulbapedia - http://discord.gg/bulbagarden
Hard Drop Wiki - https://discord.gg/harddrop
Fire Emblem Wiki Discord - https://discord.gg/2vda7Zy
Nookipedia - https://discordapp.com/invite/5Sfg3CT
Smash Wiki - https://discord.gg/s8jkKBK
Super Mario Wiki - https://discord.gg/JxcXw7Q
Wikirby - https://discord.gg/4y9BPyj
Zelda Wiki - https://discord.gg/3EBnBuA
ABXY - Video Game Wikis (F-Zero Wiki, Lylat Wiki, Icaruspedia, Inkipedia, MetroidWiki, StrategyWiki, Wars Wiki, Wikibound) https://discord.gg/pYghWh3

PokéWiki - https://discord.gg/4DeUWpu
Super Mario Forum - https://discord.gg/mXA6bR8
Super Mario Wiki - https://discord.gg/F5yw3XH

Poképédia - https://discord.gg/Ct3pgvn

Alternatively, I'm at tacopill#1781. Feel free to send me an friend request.

This list, along with other social media stuff, is available here: http://niwanetwork.org/wiki/NintendoWiki:Community_portal.
Wiki References / Re: Advice for a new comer?
March 02, 2018, 03:20:14 AM
Sorry no one has gotten back to you on this, but this thread didn't show up in any way to see if there are new threads and honestly, I don't check here often anymore.

Anyway, welcome to the forums! Pretty cool that you are starting off your own and thanks for saying we inspired you.

I can only answer some of the things you asked for, since it has been many years since I started and I am bit fuzzy on the details myself.

  • I'll send you the roadmap.
  • For a page banner at the top of the wiki, I think you are looking for the Site Notice. Not sure what intractable means, though.
  • Affiliates are not held to the same standards as members

If you are on discord, feel free to send me a friend request at tacopill#1781.

Good luck with it :).
NintendoWiki discussion / Re: Image problems
August 07, 2016, 11:33:55 PM
I'm looking into it... or hoping to bring it to the attention of someone who can :D
The Lounge / tacopill hosted sites
January 16, 2015, 09:18:51 PM
For all the sites hosted by me, and for everyone who uses those sites, please head over to our forums to see what is going on with the server.

* http://grifkuba.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=9&pid=41#pid41
* http://grifkuba.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=27

Other Media / Re: The Official TV Shows Thread
March 08, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
Digimon Fusion, TMNT 2003, Futurama and a few others.
The Lounge / Re: Status update on some sites
March 04, 2014, 02:23:14 AM
Quote from: FlyingRagnar on March 03, 2014, 08:46:36 PM
Some of the items on the list are good ones, but fairly challenging to do without investing some time to determine usage of templates/extensions etc.

This is actually why we focus on one week at a time, so we can get down to the nity-grity details, and not try to work on multiple sites at once.
The Lounge / Re: Status update on some sites
February 27, 2014, 01:36:17 AM

We now have a finalized list of when we plan to come to each wiki to help clean it up, make it faster, better, etc.   :D. With some looking around, we also want to help some of the other wikis that aren't hosted and/or staffed by members of the team. :)

  • Feb. 22 - Lylat Wiki
  • Mar. 1 - Wikibound
  • Mar. 8th - Fire Emblem Wiki
  • Mar. 15th - SEIWA & SEW
  • Mar. 22th - N Wiki
  • Mar. 29th - DK Wiki
  • Apr. 5th - Wars Wiki
  • Apr. 12th - F-Zero Wiki
  • Apr. 19th - Icaruspedia
  • Apr. 26th - Wikirby
The Lounge / Re: Status update on some sites
February 22, 2014, 03:41:36 AM
now that we have the sites back up, it is on to phase 2.  ;D

Starting Feb. 22, each site under my care (hosting and/or staffing) will be going through a cleanup cycle that will last a week, running from Saturday to Friday, after which a new wiki is chosen.

If this cleanup program is successful, it may be repeated later on in the year.

While specific tasks will vary from site to site, in general the following tasks are what needs to be worked on:

  • Clean up the CSS: remove classes that are no longer used
  • Clean up the Javascript
  • Block the spam accounts, clean up the spam they left behind
  • Simplify the templates
  • Clean up the main page
  • Remove project pages, templates, etc. that are no longer of use.
  • Remove unused extensions
  • Declutter LocalSettings.php
  • Clean up at least 5 articles for grammar, being out of date, etc.
  • See if contact can be made with staff members of the wiki.
  • Clean up Interwiki tables

We are asking people from every wiki to pitch in and help get these tasks done.

Thank you,
The Lounge / Status update on some sites
February 18, 2014, 12:13:23 AM
As some of you may have noticed, certain sites have been offline since last week. What happened to those sites, and more the server overall, is this:

Our MySQL engine died.

Now, this happened to be around the time we were also thinking about getting a larger machine, and were going to also work with the sites to reduce their respective server load.

the combination of all this, tied with recommendation for a faster (and more powerful) server, has kept the sites offline until we have everything set up.

I apologize for the delay in getting these back up. When they are back, they will be loading and running faster than before, not to mention, be more stable.

The sites affected by this include: Lylat Wiki, WiKirby, Fire Emblem Wiki, SEIWA Network, Wikibound, Zelda Sanctuary Network and Tales of Lanschilandia.

Please stay tuned to this thread, and we will keep you updated as soon as we have information.
- Tacopill, Dillion, Moydow, Ringtailed Fox and Sove.
Quote from: Torchickens on February 17, 2014, 12:42:28 PM
Quote from: Archaic on February 17, 2014, 12:19:44 PM
To follow up on my previous comment... Steel Diver would be a great franchise to test that with, given that it's now taken off due to Sub Wars. If they continue to add ships, maps and missions, I could easily see it eventually being spun off to an independent wiki.

It's funny that you should say that, as I started a Steel Diver Wiki last Friday, the day after Sub Wars came out. It's still in its infancy (as would be expected) and I don't know if I'll keep this one active for too long, though the incompleteness is giving me an incentive to add information about the missions, decals, Steel Divers, etc.

Would you like to help?

If you want, you could bring those pages over to N Wiki, and have access to our templates, etc.
Quote from: Tucayo on December 02, 2013, 11:52:36 PM
Quote from: tacopill on December 02, 2013, 12:22:20 AM
Should we cover any of the following?
* Achievements: Awards Nintendo (or one of its properties) has received, like "Game of the Year".
* Events: E3, Spaceworld, etc.
* Legal: lawsuits by or Against Nintendo, etc.

Also, going to get started on topic-specific threads, now that we have some topics down. Please look at the header post for links.

I think all of those should fall within our scope.

Ok, so, this is the updated list:
*Full coverage of hardware.
*Full coverage of history.
**Achievements: Awards Nintendo (or one of its properties) has received, like "Game of the Year".
**Legal: lawsuits by or Against Nintendo, etc.
*Full coverage of Events: E3, Spaceworld, etc.
*Full coverage of Nintendo Employees.
*Single article for competing companies.
*At least one article for every series.

This thread is about discussing Nintendo's hardware. For the main thread and other topics, please see this main thread.

To start this topic off, I have a few questions:

  • What should be in the infoboxes, navigation templates and others?
  • What sections should be in all hardware articles and what should be in just consoles, just accessories, etc.?
  • What lists, comparisons and categories would be helpful?

Some related pages:
Technical Details, Console Categoy, Accessories Category.
Quote from: SeanWheeler on November 29, 2013, 07:51:12 PM
Well, you haven't voted on Pikachu or those other characters yet.

Keep in mind, this is a thread covering general topics, whether or not Characters as a whole should be covered, not if Pikachu in specific is going to be an article. That will go on in the future, but not right now. For now, continue to work on it, please :).

And yes,

Quote from: dkpat on November 29, 2013, 07:37:08 PM
Quote from: tacopill on November 26, 2013, 04:11:29 AM
To this end, I think I may borrow an idea I got from Bulbapedia: I recommend make a personal sandbox. And in the sandbox, gather resouces, make paragraphs and sections, and see if you can make an article based on a Character, anyone of your choosing.

It seems then, that Taco is suggesting Characters are done on a case by case basis, with the wiki deciding as a whole about a character when a thorough presentation is given. In accordance with that, I feel like the Character discussion is now finished as far as the scope of this particular thread.
Case-by-Case would be good. But that is to be discussed in another thread.

Quote from: dkpat on November 29, 2013, 07:37:08 PM
Regarding the other topics Taco addressed.
Articles on individual games are beginning to seem inevitable to me. Though There are definitely certain topics that just absolutely must be present in any proper article on a video game that n-wiki has. This includes release information and Sales data. N-wiki's coverage is the company, not the franchise, so covering the plot of a game in depth shouldn't happen on any game. It should be much more about the real world effects of the game, not the in-game universe. It is agreed that coverage of any game or series should not extend beyond an article for each game in the series though.

So. Does this actually clear up any final bits about the coverage scope of N-Wiki?

Should we cover any of the following?
* Achievements: Awards Nintendo (or one of its properties) has received, like "Game of the Year".
* Events: E3, Spaceworld, etc.
* Legal: lawsuits by or Against Nintendo, etc.

Also, going to get started on topic-specific threads, now that we have some topics down. Please look at the header post for links.
The problems with Characters/mascots, in my opinion, are: where do you draw the line? where does something become so in-franchise, that it is much better just to point someone to the respective wiki (if one exists), than to try and have an article on-wiki?

for example: Bulbasaur is my favorite Pokemon, and I would love to see it get its own article. And extending that, Venusaur would also get its own. But how much does it represent the franchise as a whole? It is the version mascot for Green (Gen I) and LeafGreen (Gen III), and got a Mega Evolution in X and Y (Gen VI). But does it appear in non-video game, non-Pokemon-related, but still Nintendo-related, things?

If Nintendo does a Charity or Corporate event, with videos and/or pamphlets, how likely is it that Venusaur will make an appearance on it?

How much detail about a character (outside of its original media) can one gather?
To this end, I think I may borrow an idea I got from Bulbapedia: I recommend make a personal sandbox. And in the sandbox, gather resouces, make paragraphs and sections, and see if you can make an article based on a Character, anyone of your choosing.

In this, be sure to include as much detail as you can on the Character's presence outside of the original media for the franchise. You can include inside the media, but be careful not to become a duplicate of another wiki (NIWA, Wikia or other).

Keep it neat and organized and back it up with references. If needed, create an infobox by borrowing one of the others we have on wiki, but be sure to source it. If you need any help in this regard, feel free to contact me.

Good Luck

Dillion's Summary
Quote from: dkpat on November 15, 2013, 04:43:44 PM
In attempt to summarize the discussion thus far, and to set in stone what we all agree upon... Here we go!~
(Please note, I am not injecting my opinions into this particular post)

Definite Topics:
*Full coverage of hardware.
*Full coverage of history.
*Full coverage of Events.
*Full coverage of Nintendo Employees.
*Single article for competing companies.
*At least one article for every series.

The rest of what has been discussed still seems up in the air to me.  We have agreed that full coverage of any game series should not happen (Ex: Ice Climbers), but not the extent to which said series should be covered in comparison to other series. Related to that, We haven't come to any definitive consensus regarding coverage of Individual games. Some people are saying N-wiki shouldn't cover them, some are saying they should cover all of them, and some are saying they should only cover those without another member wiki. Another topic that doesn't have a clear decision is coverage of select Nintendo "mascots" The issue here would be determining who those mascots are.

I believe that is a thorough synopsis of the thread so far. Can we get those bottom things ironed out, please?

I am in agreement of the Definite Topics, and in support of some information related to the games. I was sort of hoping to one day have the games cataloged in a similar manor to how Bulbapedia does so with the individual Pokemon species.

For Instance, with the help of Velidragon, Moydow and many others, I managed to:
* gather all the versions of The Original Super Mario Bros. in one place.
* show ways one kirby game can related to another
* and possibly include Technical Details on a specific game.
* maybe even one day include Marketing and Sales details.

Each of these, I was hoping to fully explore, with help, ways games Interact With Each Other, compare and contrast their use of available technology, etc., all of which are above the game-level, and, as far as I can tell, slightly out-of-focus for other member wikis.

Anyway, that's my two cents. :)
on the topic of series:
Before joining NIWA, or it going public,  TTE started to give each franchise a color scheme, and if a NIWA wiki existed, then the franchise page and series page reflected each other, in color.

(I don't think anyone knew there was 100+ franchises though).

When I joined, I continued this trend, and had help from Tina, Vellidragon and a few others. Later on, other people joined, tried to contribute in various ways. And over time, we/I sort of had this idea that the wikis would help decide franchise-specific stuff, like color schemes and games. While independent stuff, like article structures and general design of templates.

As time went on: people disappeared, things changed and how we handled things changed with it. 

From time to time we changed what we were looking for in an "important series" and how to handle it:
* Rare Games - formally first-/second- franchise games at one point were put on a list of games, by development or publishing company. These are not on the  Flagship template
* Dragon Quest series - newly first-/second-franchise games got franchise pages, especially upon new members coming in.  These are on the franchise template.
* Kingdom Hearts - games from franchises of affiate wikis got pages in order to promote cross-traffic with them.

now for the rest of them:
I support hardware, history and people, although I hardly know anything about it, so I can't contribute there.  I kind of hope to keep the game articles, but am totally biased on that part.

I have also recommended we include companies that have had relationships with Nintendo, do have a relationship or may have one. These could include Capcom, Konami, Rare, Sony and Microsoft; all depends on how it and Nintendo are related.
It has long been debated and discussed exactly what NintendoWiki covers, and how far in depth that coverage goes.

so, I am putting it out on the table (metaphorically) so we can finally decide what should be covered, what shouldn't, etc.

You are free to bring up any idea for a coverage topic, but don't go too far in depth on it. If you feel something shouldn't be covered (either already talked about or not), feel free to bring it up.

Once a coverage topic has been thoroughly discussed and approved through consensus, please start a new thread on that topic. Feel free to discuss navigation templates, lists, article structures, etc. about that topic.

To start this off, I am going to up my proposed Coverage and Scope that I wrote a few years ago.

To help this along, I have been putting together a table that shows a "level" of how important/approved/etc. a coverage policy/topic/etc. is. (sorry, this is a complicated matter :P) Please check it out here.

Topic Specific Threads
Hardware Thread.
Quote from: Moydow on September 26, 2013, 07:43:45 PM
Edit: it's already happened.

Looks like Torchikens jumped on it, soon after it closed.
NintendoWiki discussion / Re: Documentation Matters
September 25, 2013, 12:57:41 AM
sorry for the double post, but the poll has closed with a result of 5-4.

I'll leave the thread open for further comments, but from this point on, consensus is to keep them separate.
Quote from: Vellidragon on September 10, 2013, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: tacopill on September 10, 2013, 01:29:10 AM
It is an identifier. Someone who is looking through that list might not know that it is an disambiguation page from the list. They may link to "Donkey Kong" thinking they are going to the character.
They can still link to Donkey Kong and it will show up as a blue link, only it's a redirect to the disambiguation page instead of a direct link. If anything, it causes more confusion the way it is, as the fact that the disambiguation page has parentheses after the name indicates that there is a seperate "Donkey Kong" page (possibly about the character), but it isn't actually the case. It's misleading in this manner, and there's no advantage (it's pretty clear from the page's contents that it's a disambiguation (it should even have a notice pointing this out), and other pages don't pointlessly tell people what they are in the title; if they did, we would end up with "Category:Games (category containing games)" or "Help:Contents (index of the help pages)").

those are descriptors, not identifiers. Descriptors would be redundant, in this case, as the title and namespace give details on what is the page contents. Identifiers, on the other hand, don't give redundant info. "(game)", "(series)", etc. that isn't already in the page title. :P

"(disambiguation)" lets people know it is a disambiguation page, something that currently doesn't have a namespace.