...Xizor, I did not say "o letz go barge into wikiz n edit evily kk?", relax. it's entirely in good faith, and what wiki does not want help? No duh we need to follow wiki polices. I'm not enforcing anyone or anything. It's an unofficial thing. Just wandering WikiMercenaries. Too much for you to handle?
If a wiki joined NIWA but did not care to be a part of the community, why join?
I did not ask for all of NIWA to join, just those who are willing. You do know "NIWA" means "Garden", right? As in, "Not seclusive wikis that would burn and be massively affected if some users decided to do something good"? Over dramatizing. Relax. There's no requirement.
I'm not really sure you read my post. I never said you said you wanted to barge in and smash heads. I understand it's in good faith. I believe, "They may have a mandate from its members, though. Hopefully that makes sense. I get very uneasy when you guys talking NIWA "doing" things to its members. We do not enforce anything and if I do nothing else as Coordinator, it will be to protect that functionality" meant:
- Anything can happen so long as the members of NIWA want it to happen, as in its wikis, not just a few random staffers
- NIWA has no power over its members, which means:
- Such a squad should not be officially "from NIWA" because that implies that the organization itself is taking action in regard to its members, which is not what we are, and that I will make sure that no matter what else I do or don't do, I will make sure that as long as I have the ability to keep things the way they are, that NIWA does not enforce or task anything, because that's critical to our success. Otherwise, we risk just becoming a disconnected Wiki Farm.
I find your rhetorical question "Too much for you to handle?" to be extremely rude and uncalled for, and I'd appreciate an apology, and a genuine effort to keep things civil. This is a discussion, not a riot, and I find it inappropriate to say things like that. I was not rude to you, and yet you responded with undue venom.
There are many reasons to join NIWA outside of the forum community here. In fact, I venture to guess most members of our Member Wikis have never once even visited the hub page, let alone the forums. Imagine how those users would feel if they all of a sudden saw some coordinated group of users doing things that maybe they didn't want, and then find out "Oh, they're from NIWA." What kind of message do you think that might send? You guys can certainly go and do that coordinated effort, but you will not be "from NIWA" - you will be yourselves. That's the key point I'm trying to make.
I really, in fact, am realizing your entire post was actually a gross overreaction to an egregious misinterpretation of just about everything I said. At no point was I agitated, angry, or even mildly excited. I was simply blunt. That's what NIWA needs from me: candid honesty of the wisdom I can impart. Hopefully now you understand what I meant with the things I said that have you so angry, and hopefully you also understand how I personally expect staff members to conduct themselves when using these boards, and that doesn't really just go for you. Everybody can stand to be a little more civil from time to time, myself included.
Otherwise, Nintendoguy basically hit the nail perfectly right on the head.